P-64 D/A trigger pull, lighten?

belercous · 07-01-2010, 01:07 AM

I just got a P-64, which I thought might be a decent carry gun. The S/A trigger pull is nice. Trouble is; the D/A trigger pull, which, while physically possible to achieve, is a harder than Tibetan calculus.
The gun is not yet broken in, but even then, I cannot envision the trigger pull being less than the weight of a yearling Ibex.
Is there a way to lighten the D/A trigger pull without altering the S/A pull? I'm not about to attempt this myself, but rather wish to inform my gunsmith (He's good. And cheap. Not fast, but then again, you can't have all 3) of where to look for info/what to do for this job.
Any info would be most appreciated.

oscarmayer · 07-01-2010, 03:42 AM

once it's broken in the trigger will still be a bear... check out replacement springs at wolff spring. i believe they have just what you need

marcodelat · 07-01-2010, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by belercous

I just got a P-64, which I thought might be a decent carry gun. The S/A trigger pull is nice. Trouble is; the D/A trigger pull, which, while physically possible to achieve, is a harder than Tibetan calculus.

Easy fix: http://www.p64resource.com/fixes.php

... or : http://www.p64resource.com/forum/vie...php?f=4&t=1583

All kinds of information on the P-64 here:

http://www.p64resource.com/forum/

Helix_FR · 07-01-2010, 09:20 AM

Funny you ask. I have one in my shop now were the trigger guard pivot pin keeps backing out. Simple enough. He called me yesterday and asked the same thing. Marco hit the nail on the head with that link. Thats about all you can do to lighten them b/c once you drop that main spring out, there is no resistance in the trigger at all. If wolf does not have the spring kit for that, a lighter weight mainspring for a 1911 will work too. You just have to cut it back a little so the hammer can completely cycle

Big Shrek · 07-01-2010, 06:17 PM

Since this is a farily new item on the C&R list...

I would think that the same trigger/sear mating that is in most every semi-auto pistol and SHOULD be in this one could be smoothed a wee bit to make the trigger feel better & react more smoothly & crisply??

I've yet to even see one of these, but my curiousity is piqued

I like Makarov chamberings

belercous · 07-02-2010, 09:41 PM

Wolff doesn't offer a reduced power spring, standard & extra power springs, but no reduced power spring. I guess I'll get a reduced power (<18 lb. 1911 spring).
Thanks for your assistance guys.

shinerjohn · 07-05-2010, 12:11 PM

Wolff does offer a reduced hammer spring. The factory hammer spring is about 24 lbs. Wolff offers 17, 18, 19, and 20 lb. hammer springs.

Wolff does not offer a reduced RECOIL spring.

I have successfully replaced both the hammer spring and recoil spring in both of my P-64s. I put the 17 lb hammer spring in one and the 18 lb hammer spring in the other. Replacing the hammer springs does indeed lighten the DA trigger, however it also reduces the SA pull.

07-01-2010, 01:07 AM	#1
belercous Former Guest Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 195	P-64 D/A trigger pull, lighten? I just got a P-64, which I thought might be a decent carry gun. The S/A trigger pull is nice. Trouble is; the D/A trigger pull, which, while physically possible to achieve, is a harder than Tibetan calculus. The gun is not yet broken in, but even then, I cannot envision the trigger pull being less than the weight of a yearling Ibex. Is there a way to lighten the D/A trigger pull without altering the S/A pull? I'm not about to attempt this myself, but rather wish to inform my gunsmith (He's good. And cheap. Not fast, but then again, you can't have all 3) of where to look for info/what to do for this job. Any info would be most appreciated. -->

07-01-2010, 03:42 AM	#2
oscarmayer Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Contributor Posts: 2,387	Re: P-64 D/A trigger pull, lighten? once it's broken in the trigger will still be a bear... check out replacement springs at wolff spring. i believe they have just what you need

07-01-2010, 09:20 AM	#4
Helix_FR TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Imperial, MO Posts: 3,617	Re: P-64 D/A trigger pull, lighten? Funny you ask. I have one in my shop now were the trigger guard pivot pin keeps backing out. Simple enough. He called me yesterday and asked the same thing. Marco hit the nail on the head with that link. Thats about all you can do to lighten them b/c once you drop that main spring out, there is no resistance in the trigger at all. If wolf does not have the spring kit for that, a lighter weight mainspring for a 1911 will work too. You just have to cut it back a little so the hammer can completely cycle __________________ Only cowards shoot with their eyes closed.... helixgunsmith.com

07-01-2010, 06:17 PM	#5
Big Shrek Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NorthWest Florida Posts: 923	Re: P-64 D/A trigger pull, lighten? Since this is a farily new item on the C&R list... I would think that the same trigger/sear mating that is in most every semi-auto pistol and SHOULD be in this one could be smoothed a wee bit to make the trigger feel better & react more smoothly & crisply?? I've yet to even see one of these, but my curiousity is piqued I like Makarov chamberings __________________ Marlin Specialist Calico Specialist A gun should be a tool in the hands of a deadly weapon, not a deadly weapon in the hands of a tool.

07-02-2010, 09:41 PM	#6
belercous Former Guest Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 195	Re: P-64 D/A trigger pull, lighten? Wolff doesn't offer a reduced power spring, standard & extra power springs, but no reduced power spring. I guess I'll get a reduced power (<18 lb. 1911 spring). Thanks for your assistance guys.

07-05-2010, 12:11 PM	#7
shinerjohn Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Texas Posts: 6	Re: P-64 D/A trigger pull, lighten? Wolff does offer a reduced hammer spring. The factory hammer spring is about 24 lbs. Wolff offers 17, 18, 19, and 20 lb. hammer springs. Wolff does not offer a reduced RECOIL spring. I have successfully replaced both the hammer spring and recoil spring in both of my P-64s. I put the 17 lb hammer spring in one and the 18 lb hammer spring in the other. Replacing the hammer springs does indeed lighten the DA trigger, however it also reduces the SA pull.