Another Iver Johnson Question - The Firearms Forum

als · 07-06-2010, 02:14 AM

Like Doxies2, I seem to have inherited an old Iver Johnson handgun recently.

It has 5 chambers about the size of a .38 and has black plastic grips. On the top of the barrel is engraved:

Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle works Fitzburg Mass, U.S.A
PATD APR 8, 86 FEB 13, 87 MAY 10, 87, DEC 26, 93 PATS PENDING

Serial Number: C26633

This seems to hold a bit of family history, so what I would really like to know is if there is any way to track owner ship back to the original purchaser. Any help is greatly appreciated.

wpage · 07-06-2010, 05:07 AM

There is no tracking on those oldie but goodies...
Congrats on your legacy gun. Can you post a pic for better recognition?

b.goforth · 07-06-2010, 12:58 PM

this is a very early second model 38 S&W caliber safety automatic hammer revolver manufactured in 1896.

SECOND MODEL SAFETY AUTOMATIC HAMMER REVOLVER
(Black Powder Cartridges)------------1896-1908
LARGE FRAME AND SMALL FRAME VERSIONS USES HAMMER THE HAMMER ACTION: Double top post barrel latch, nickel finish standard, blue optional, hard rubber grip panels with Owls head at top. Hammer the Hammer action, two frame sizes, and three calibers. Standard barrel length: small frame 3 inches, large frame 3 ¼ inches; Calibers: small frame .22 rimfire 7 rounds cylinder capacity, .32 centerfire 5 rounds cylinder capacity, large frame .38 centerfire 5 rounds cylinder capacity; Weight: small frame with 3 inch barrel .22 rimfire 12 ounces, .32 centerfire 12 ¼ ounces, large frame with 3 ¼ inch barrel 17¼ ounces; Frame height: small frame 3 ¼ inches, large frame 3 7/8 inches; Frame length: small frame 4 3/26 inches, large frame 5 inches; Overall length: small frame with 3 inch barrel 6 3/8 inches, large frame with 3 ¼ inch barrel 7 3/8 inches. Only difference between the first and second model is the barrel latch. Main serial number location on left side of grip frame grips must be removed to see. The Second Model features a double top post barrel latch, flat leaf hammer spring and two cross pins in the lower frame.
VALUE: 100%=$275 60%=$135
For revolvers equipped with Bourne Knuckleduster add 100%
bill

als · 07-11-2010, 10:48 AM

wpage and b.goforth, Thank you very much for your replies. It is comforting to know this fits in with the old family stories.

Thank you both so much for your time.

Alan.

07-06-2010, 02:14 AM	#1
als Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2	Another Iver Johnson Question Like Doxies2, I seem to have inherited an old Iver Johnson handgun recently. It has 5 chambers about the size of a .38 and has black plastic grips. On the top of the barrel is engraved: Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle works Fitzburg Mass, U.S.A PATD APR 8, 86 FEB 13, 87 MAY 10, 87, DEC 26, 93 PATS PENDING Serial Number: C26633 This seems to hold a bit of family history, so what I would really like to know is if there is any way to track owner ship back to the original purchaser. Any help is greatly appreciated. -->

07-06-2010, 05:07 AM	#2
wpage Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,471	Re: Another Iver Johnson Question There is no tracking on those oldie but goodies... Congrats on your legacy gun. Can you post a pic for better recognition? __________________ "You shall recieve power" Acts 1:8 W

07-06-2010, 12:58 PM	#3
b.goforth Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: houston, tx Posts: 3,174	Re: Another Iver Johnson Question this is a very early second model 38 S&W caliber safety automatic hammer revolver manufactured in 1896. SECOND MODEL SAFETY AUTOMATIC HAMMER REVOLVER (Black Powder Cartridges)------------1896-1908 LARGE FRAME AND SMALL FRAME VERSIONS USES HAMMER THE HAMMER ACTION: Double top post barrel latch, nickel finish standard, blue optional, hard rubber grip panels with Owls head at top. Hammer the Hammer action, two frame sizes, and three calibers. Standard barrel length: small frame 3 inches, large frame 3 ¼ inches; Calibers: small frame .22 rimfire 7 rounds cylinder capacity, .32 centerfire 5 rounds cylinder capacity, large frame .38 centerfire 5 rounds cylinder capacity; Weight: small frame with 3 inch barrel .22 rimfire 12 ounces, .32 centerfire 12 ¼ ounces, large frame with 3 ¼ inch barrel 17¼ ounces; Frame height: small frame 3 ¼ inches, large frame 3 7/8 inches; Frame length: small frame 4 3/26 inches, large frame 5 inches; Overall length: small frame with 3 inch barrel 6 3/8 inches, large frame with 3 ¼ inch barrel 7 3/8 inches. Only difference between the first and second model is the barrel latch. Main serial number location on left side of grip frame grips must be removed to see. The Second Model features a double top post barrel latch, flat leaf hammer spring and two cross pins in the lower frame. VALUE: 100%=$275 60%=$135 For revolvers equipped with Bourne Knuckleduster add 100% bill __________________ Author: Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works 1871-1993 H&R Arms Company 1871-1986 (due spring 2010) available from www.gunshowbooks.com website; iverjohnsoncollector.x10hosting.com

07-11-2010, 10:48 AM	#4
als Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2	Re: Another Iver Johnson Question wpage and b.goforth, Thank you very much for your replies. It is comforting to know this fits in with the old family stories. Thank you both so much for your time. Alan.