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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Australia
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this was prepared for the border security team , letting them know of what tactics and capabilities the drug cartels have and what to expect when the cartels cross the border
The cartels tactic's methodolgy equipment recognition devices weapons and training level
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Anyone who beleives that the cartels are not well trained and equipped militants is not paying attention!
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Thanks for posting this Jack, it's information like this that makes one wonder if it's too late to turn the tide. Last edited by 199er; 08-02-2010 at 09:12 AM.. |
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So Jack and everybody else, lets see if I got this straight.
This is exactly what Arizona is trying to put a stop to, yet through the Obomba admins actions, they are showing us this is exactly what they do not want to stop. Why? Is it the drugs they don't want to stop? Is it the terrorists that pay top dollar to cross the border, is that what they don't want to stop? Is the it the (false) claims of gun smuggling they don't want to stop? Is it so that we Americans are provoked to a overwhelming show of force where Mexicans get slaughtered? Then where does that lead to? (>>>Something like this maybe?<<<) We should retrain our Border Patrol to become well trained in combat and combat tactics. Not only that but supply them with some proper equipment like armored personal carriers, cobras, and tanks. Is this current administration really a true and legitimate enemy of the country?
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Join Date: Apr 2009
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Marlin, wonder if the administration intends to allow this to fester and grow until the MSM and the public demands repeal of Posse Comitas allowing the U.S. Military to occupy the border but instead deploy to, say Ft. Worth, Biloxi, Lafayette etc. to secure the citizen and protect them from themselves by disarming them or perhaps relocating citizens from the country to the cities.
See this articlefrom cnsnews, Arizona Sheriff (No Arpaio), "Our own Govt. has become our enemy". http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/70324 http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/70324 CNSNews.com Arizona Sheriff: ‘Our Own Government Has Become Our Enemy’ Monday, August 02, 2010 By Penny Starr, Senior Staff Writer Pinal County (Ariz.) Sheriff Paul Babeu (Correction: As initially posted, this story inaccurately said that Pinal County was contiguous with the Mexican border. It is in southern Arizona, but not on the border.) (CNSNews.com) – Pinal County (Ariz.) Sheriff Paul Babeu is hopping mad at the federal government. Babeu told CNSNews.com that rather than help law enforcement in Arizona stop the hundreds of thousands of people who come into the United States illegally, the federal government is targeting the state and its law enforcement personnel. “What’s very troubling is the fact that at a time when we in law enforcement and our state need help from the federal government, instead of sending help they put up billboard-size signs warning our citizens to stay out of the desert in my county because of dangerous drug and human smuggling and weapons and bandits and all these other things and then, behind that, they drag us into court with the ACLU,” Babeu said. The sheriff was referring to the law suits filed by the American Civil Liberties Union and the U.S. Department of Justice challenging the state’s new immigration law. “So who has partnered with the ACLU?” Babeu said in a telephone interview with CNSNews.com. “It’s the president and (Attorney General) Eric Holder himself. And that’s simply outrageous.” Last week, U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton placed a temporary injunction on portions of the bill that allowed law enforcement personnel during the course of a criminal investigation who have probable cause to think an individual is in the country illegally to check immigration status. The state of Arizona filed an appeal on Thursday with the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. “Our own government has become our enemy and is taking us to court at a time when we need help,” Babeu said. Babeu and Sheriff Larry Dever of Cochise County Ariz., spoke by phone with CNSNews.com last week about the May 17 ACLU class-action lawsuit, which charges the law uses racial profiling and named the county attorneys and sheriffs in all 15 Arizona counties as defendants. The Department of Justice filed a lawsuit on July 6, charging the Arizona law preempted the federal government’s sole right to enforce immigration law. “If the president would do his job and secure the border; send 3,000 armed soldiers to the Arizona border and stop the illegal immigration and the drug smuggling and the violence, we wouldn’t even be in this position and where we’re forced to take matters into our own hands,” Babeu said. Dever said the federal government’s failure to secure the border and its current thwarting of Arizona’s effort to control illegal immigration within its borders has implications for the entire country. “The bigger picture is while what’s going on in Arizona is critically important, what comes out of this and happens here will affect our entire nation in terms of our ability to protect our citizenry from a very serious homeland security threat,” Dever said. “People who are coming across the border in my county aren’t staying there. They’re going everywhere USA and a lot of them are bad, bad people.” According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), about 250,000 people were detained in Arizona in the last 12 months for being in the country illegally. Babeu said that that number only reflects the number of people detained and that thousands more enter the country illegally each year. The CBP also reports that 17 percent of those detained already have a criminal record in the United States. Both Babeu and Dever said they want to remain involved in the legal battle over the law, which many experts predict will end up being decided by the U.S. Supreme Court. Dever has hired an independent attorney to represent him in the ACLU case and his attorney has already filed a motion of intervention in the DOJ lawsuit so the “(Dever) will have a seat at the table.” A Web site also has been launched by the non-profit, Iowa-based Legacy Foundation to raise money for the Babeu’s and Dever’s legal defense. Both men said they believe the outcome of the case has national significance.“For us, this is a public safety matter and a national security threat,” Babeu said.
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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Army Special Forces, Delta Force, Army Rangers, SEAL teams, should all be sent out there to fight these cartels. I bet we could end this in a matter of a couple weeks if we really tried and committed to it. But I guess since we need those groups over in the Middle East right now, why doesn't the American government train regular citizens and supply them weapons to fight these cartels? I don't think the government wants this to stop.
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