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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Fresno,Calif
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This question is from the people in the know about what guns are allowed in Texas. I currently live in California and have my place for sale. We have A place picked out in Austin. Question is here in Calif. assult rifles are a tabu. What are allowed are a very slim choice. I currently only have a Kel-tec 16. With my C&R I am not allowed to purchase any 762.39 that don't meet the criteria of any gun with a removable mag. Does Texas allow the newer type with removable mags. I'm hoping that there are more laxed rules in what one can own. Looking forward to moving. Thanks for any info.....Mike
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Upstate NY
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Found this...
http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbys...gunlaws_tx.htm do your own due diligence though. DYODD ![]() Good luck with the move.
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: San Joaquin Valley, Ca.
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I'm right behind you Mike. Maybe not Texas but Arizona or Florida definately. Got to get out of the valley and California.
By the way Mike, I'm in Hanford. Not far from you.
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: NH
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The carry laws in TX aren't bad with the provisions that are actually stricter than NH not affecting me like no open carry (hunting excepted) and no carry in bar's but you can in restaurants. I don't recall what the knife laws are there but everything goes up here with a recent law that makes switchblades, etc. legal.
Florida is somewhat stricter with no carry in places that dispense alcohol and they have a provision with no carry in "any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05". Guess I'll have to read that one as that could be defined as anyplace I'm at .AZ's wide open but I don't know of any restrictions on where you can carry???
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: N.W. Arkansas
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Don't know for sure but I'll bet the laws are about like here in Arkansas. I'll bet you'll think you are in gun heaven after living in Ca. (I'm a native Californian). No waiting periods etc. Hell, if I felt like it and had the money I could drive down to the local toy store and walk out with a 50 cal. BMG under my arm today.
Enjoy your new freedom.
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Fresno,Calif
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Thanks Graehaven for the great link. Thinks it makes me verry happy.
Petesusn- Come on lets leave before another dictator gets in the states drivers seat. Airdale- It must be Great. As you know once confined and then real freedom how does one justify being in California............ Thanks Mike |
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Denton, TX
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You can own anything that isn't illegal in the Fed's book (rocket launchers, etc). No state bar on gun ownership. Want a 50 cal Barrett, go get one. Pick up your choice of AK-47 semi-auto or AR-15s at any gun show and walk out with it. Get your conceal and carry through Utah. Quicker and easier, but it's only a 2-day class in Texas. Gun has to be "concealed", no open carry. Your car is your home, don't need a license for your car. No need to keep you gun in a super-secret lockbox, no limit on ammo, etc. If you're outside the city limits and not in a restricted development, no problem shooting on your own property, just don't shoot at the neighbor's cows or home.
Welcome to Texas. |
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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In Florida, you cannot carry into anyplace that has, as their main business, the sale of alcohol for consumption on the premises. So, I can carry in a liquor store, but I can't in Joe's Bar. Joe's Bar makes their money from the sale of alcohol for consumption. Now, I can go into TGIFridays, or Applebees, or Red Lobster, or Olive Garden, or any other place that is a restaurant that has a bar, and sit at my table in the dining area and get roaring drunk - whether I'm drinking beer or wine or liquor is irrelevant. But I can't go into the "bar section" of the place, even if I'm not going to drink. cannot carry into >any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose<
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Guess that why its the lone star. God Bless Texas!
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Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Alpo I do believe that is what he is saying because the the Utah permit is allowed in 31 different states.
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Marble Falls, Texas
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I guess you realize that you are headed to the liberal bastion of the state. It probably won't bother someone from Ka, but just sayin'. I can't stand the place.
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Southwest Corner of the US, "Where no stinking fence will stop us!!"
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From what I've seen and heard, Austin is "California lite." Probably an easier transition.
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: NH
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http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/wea...ossession.html Quote:
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NW Florida
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Florida Statutes 790.06, paragraph (12) http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/...n%2006#0790.06 (12) No license issued pursuant to this section shall authorize any person to carry a concealed weapon or firearm into any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05; any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station; any detention facility, prison, or jail; any courthouse; any courtroom, except that nothing in this section would preclude a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon in his or her courtroom; any polling place; any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district; any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof; any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms; any school administration building; any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose; any elementary or secondary school facility; any career center; any college or university facility unless the licensee is a registered student, employee, or faculty member of such college or university and the weapon is a stun gun or nonlethal electric weapon or device designed solely for defensive purposes and the weapon does not fire a dart or projectile; inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport, provided that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, which firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft; or any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law. Any person who willfully violates any provision of this subsection commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. What I'm saying is if the restaurant has a separate bar area, but they still serve alcohol in the dining area, it is legal to carry in the dining area but not in the bar area, and it is legal to drink while carrying, as long as you are not in the bar area. You can't walk through the bar to get to the bathroom. If you walk into the bar while carrying a gun you have broken the law. Because I used to disarm before going into restaurant that served booze, I wrote the Secretary of State (Secretary of State used to be in charge, now it's the Department of Agriculture - don't know why the change) and asked. Also asked about carrying at a Marlins baseball game (that was the example I used) since they sell beer at ball games. She reminded me that you weren't allowed to carry at sporting events. She explained Florida's take on the difference between a bar and a restaurant that served alcohol. So, yes, it's legal to drink at the dinner table, while carrying. And that's not MY interpretation, that's the State of Florida's Official Interpretation. Makes more sense to me than a law saying you can't carry in a place that derives more than 50% of its business from the sale of alcohol (I think this is how Texas law works, isn't it?) You go to this place all the time, and you're fine, because only 46% of their business is booze. Then it's the night of the big Aggie/Longhorn game, and 90% of their business is booze. So, that night you can't carry there. ![]()
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Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: NH
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In your latter example I would think the revenues would be on an annual basis as they wouldn't know until the end of the day if it was greater or less than 50% for that day. The TX law worked fine for me as I don't drink so don't hit the bars but my wife and I like an nice meal out fairly regularily when were in the 5th wheel. We will be back in the Keys for this winter and my NH permit is good in FL and I try to avoid carrying in violation of state laws and not press my luck. Sounds like spring training games are out as well so guess I have some learning to do.
In NH it's Statehouse, Courthouses and federal illegal like post offices and schools, etc. so the transition can be difficult when we travel and I'm sure I have been wrong more than I would like to know especially when it comes to restaurants. I guess that why they call it concealed carry.
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Denton, TX
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RE, Utah license. Yep. That's a loophole that a lot of Texans are taking advantage of. You get a non-resident Utah license, it's valid in Texas. 4-hour class vs. 2 day class. They may change it, but I kinda doubt it. The CCL in Texas is just about, "Officer, he was threatening my life and the life of my children, and I was defending myself. And I won't say anything else until I talk to my lawyer." You have to be able to hit the broad side of a barn in a range setting. Then pay your bucks. Took three months to get mine back from the state, but they're buried in new licenses.
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Denton, TX
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Austin City-proper is a liberal bastion. Get outside the city, conservative. Nice place to go for parties, theaters, etc. Also if you have a CCL, you can bypass the metal detectors to get into the State Capital building. He He.
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Fresno,Calif
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Keep posting it just makes me want to hurry and move even if I half to give my house away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So any rules Texas or any of the other free states have will seem like a dream come true and heaven........Mike |
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Montana
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You will be free! Be free and get the heck outta that hole. A friend's boy was walking o school when they lived in excremento and some wanna be gangers took his shoes and coat.. Poor parent were scared to death and promtly packed up to move to more sane surroundings. Get out qwik before they seal the borders from exit-ers!!!
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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Texas does recognize Utah CHL but for how long? Several states, including New Mexico, no longer recognize Utah. Cross the state line and you're in violation.
For my money and time, I would go ahead and get a Texas CHL. It's easy, you can do it in one day at some places, and it's universally recognized in Texas. A stop where you show a Utah CHL may invite some unnecessary questions. Just sayin'. But as far as what you can own, anything. Texas also allows machine guns and destructive devices. A very gun-friendly state. No restrictions on weapon type, size, mag size,ammo, anything. Welcome! |
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Location: Marble Falls, Texas
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Austin is also a sanctuary city, among other things.
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Yeah, Austin as about as liberal a city as you'll find here in Texas, but fortunately, they realize that gun ownership is a sacred trust in the Lone Star State. Once you get here and decide you want a gun, there are lots of choices. There are lots of gun stores, even in small towns - heck, especially in small towns - and there are gun shows somewhere in Texas almost every weekend. Even most Wal-Marts sell rifles and shotguns, but not "assault weapons" or handguns. If you buy from a dealer, you walk in, pick out what you want, and fill out a simple form. The dealer calls the state, gets an approval (assuming you're not a felon or mentally challenged). You pay for your new gun and head out the door. I have bought guns in less than 10 minutes.
If you want to buy from an individual. it's even easier. Pay your money, get your gun. No registration, no license checks, no paperwork. I am meeting a guy tomorrow and trading one of my shotguns for his rifle. The deal will take place in a grocery store parking lot. I know things are pretty loose here, but I think that's the way the founders wanted it. Just remember, with the right to keep and bear arms comes the need to do it responsibly. Fred - Proud Texan |
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Central Florida
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I worry about buying a gun from someone I don't know that well.
I prefer to use my copy machine to scan in the seller's drivers license and my license on a sheet of paper that has the date of the sale or trade and S/N info that we both sign and we both get a copy. It would sure save a lot of problems if your new gun was tied to a crime that happened prior to the date on your record. As for carrying in a bar, I know too many guys who have a total personality change when they drink and I'd hate to be around if they had a gun when they're in nasty mode. |
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