Does anyone have one of these? - The Firearms Forum

Old Gun Guy · 09-21-2010, 08:54 PM

Hello!
I am looking for a hand/lever for an unknown revolver that I previously posted to try to identify on this forum. If anyone has this part, or something close that I can whittle down, I would appreciate a response.
Thanks in advance!
Old Gun Guy

johnlives4christ · 09-21-2010, 09:12 PM

i dont have one, but i dont think it would be too hard to make if a person had the tools

Helix_FR · 09-23-2010, 09:18 AM

Whats wrong with the one you have?

Old Gun Guy · 09-23-2010, 09:51 AM

Helix_FR,
It has worn down, and won't rotate the cylinder enough to properly index. It doesn't look like it is worn, but by eye-balling its movement it looks like it needs to be longer. I have tried to get the tip built up with a weld bead, but nobody wants to take a chance on welding it because of the small size.
Old Gun Guy

Helix_FR · 09-23-2010, 10:20 AM

I recently came in contact with a gun engraver that also has a laser welder. He can do buildups easily. He is also a jewelery maker so he's used to doing tiny welds. The machine is quite amazing. He showed me on Sunday how he can weld 2 pieces of 1mm rod of different alloys. (stainless to 01 tooling steel) He welded them between his fingers and the weld held strong. I have a slide for a P38 going over to him later this week for him to fix a crack. Since this is not a high stress part like a barrel or lug its a perfect candidate.

Old Gun Guy · 09-23-2010, 10:57 AM

Helix_FR,
Thanks for the info on laser welders. I knew about them, but couldn't locate anyone in the area that had one. I will keep looking.
Old Gun Guy

Jim K · 09-23-2010, 02:48 PM

The usual practice with those is to stretch the hand by putting the flat side down on a steel block or anvil and using the edge of a hammer pound (drive) metal toward the top end. Just hit the hand at an angle so the metal flows forward. Some folks will pound in the cut out part so as not to take a chance on thinning the hand. Your choice.

You will be surprised at how few blows it takes to stretch a hand that way. Then you start fitting it, which may mean removing some of the metal you "added".

Jim

Gabob · 09-23-2010, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim K

The usual practice with those is to stretch the hand by putting the flat side down on a steel block or anvil and using the edge of a hammer pound (drive) metal toward the top end. Just hit the hand at an angle so the metal flows forward. Some folks will pound in the cut out part so as not to take a chance on thinning the hand. Your choice.

You will be surprised at how few blows it takes to stretch a hand that way. Then you start fitting it, which may mean removing some of the metal you "added".

Jim

I have used this method to stretch the hand in the past with sucess. I have also built them up with acetylene weld. They make welding rods which harden upon cooling

Old Gun Guy · 09-25-2010, 03:57 PM

Thanks for all the tips. I stretched the metal, and tried to work it back into shape. No luck. I may try to fabricate a new piece altogether.
Old Gun Guy

Jim K · 09-25-2010, 06:18 PM

Some of the factories made those in one piece, but drilling a hole and screwing or driving in a pin is a perfectly feasible way to go. I cut the hand to rough shape, then drill and install the pin, then finish the rest, as the pin location is the tricky part.

Jim

goofy · 03-09-2011, 05:44 AM

09-21-2010, 08:54 PM	#1
Old Gun Guy V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: N. Utah Contributor Posts: 489	Does anyone have one of these? Hello! I am looking for a hand/lever for an unknown revolver that I previously posted to try to identify on this forum. If anyone has this part, or something close that I can whittle down, I would appreciate a response. Thanks in advance! Old Gun Guy -->

09-21-2010, 09:12 PM	#2
johnlives4christ Former Guest Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,828	Re: Does anyone have one of these? i dont have one, but i dont think it would be too hard to make if a person had the tools

09-23-2010, 09:18 AM	#3
Helix_FR TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Imperial, MO Posts: 3,624	Re: Does anyone have one of these? Whats wrong with the one you have? __________________ Only cowards shoot with their eyes closed.... helixgunsmith.com

09-23-2010, 09:51 AM	#4
Old Gun Guy V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: N. Utah Contributor Posts: 489	Re: Does anyone have one of these? Helix_FR, It has worn down, and won't rotate the cylinder enough to properly index. It doesn't look like it is worn, but by eye-balling its movement it looks like it needs to be longer. I have tried to get the tip built up with a weld bead, but nobody wants to take a chance on welding it because of the small size. Old Gun Guy

09-23-2010, 10:20 AM	#5
Helix_FR TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Imperial, MO Posts: 3,624	Re: Does anyone have one of these? I recently came in contact with a gun engraver that also has a laser welder. He can do buildups easily. He is also a jewelery maker so he's used to doing tiny welds. The machine is quite amazing. He showed me on Sunday how he can weld 2 pieces of 1mm rod of different alloys. (stainless to 01 tooling steel) He welded them between his fingers and the weld held strong. I have a slide for a P38 going over to him later this week for him to fix a crack. Since this is not a high stress part like a barrel or lug its a perfect candidate. __________________ Only cowards shoot with their eyes closed.... helixgunsmith.com

09-23-2010, 10:57 AM	#6
Old Gun Guy V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: N. Utah Contributor Posts: 489	Re: Does anyone have one of these? Helix_FR, Thanks for the info on laser welders. I knew about them, but couldn't locate anyone in the area that had one. I will keep looking. Old Gun Guy

09-23-2010, 02:48 PM	#7
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: Does anyone have one of these? The usual practice with those is to stretch the hand by putting the flat side down on a steel block or anvil and using the edge of a hammer pound (drive) metal toward the top end. Just hit the hand at an angle so the metal flows forward. Some folks will pound in the cut out part so as not to take a chance on thinning the hand. Your choice. You will be surprised at how few blows it takes to stretch a hand that way. Then you start fitting it, which may mean removing some of the metal you "added". Jim

09-25-2010, 03:57 PM	#9
Old Gun Guy V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: N. Utah Contributor Posts: 489	Re: Does anyone have one of these? Thanks for all the tips. I stretched the metal, and tried to work it back into shape. No luck. I may try to fabricate a new piece altogether. Old Gun Guy

09-25-2010, 06:18 PM	#10
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: Does anyone have one of these? Some of the factories made those in one piece, but drilling a hole and screwing or driving in a pin is a perfectly feasible way to go. I cut the hand to rough shape, then drill and install the pin, then finish the rest, as the pin location is the tricky part. Jim

03-09-2011, 05:44 AM	#11
goofy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Contributor Posts: 2,023	Re: Does anyone have one of these? ? Last edited by goofy; 03-10-2011 at 04:20 PM..