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Maybe just a subtile warning or ??
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110107/...yland_packages Not much on this one yet but the Congresswoman was shot point blank in the head. Huummmmm. http://www.kgun9.com/Global/story.asp?S=13807722
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110108/..._congresswoman
She didn't make it....... Now, she is alive and being treated. Conflicting reports. |
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I am watching the cable news coverage of this event (Az. Congesswomen shot).
I am awaiting Why and Who. I do know she was involved in a bitter campaign against her opponent in the mid term 2010 elections. At this point; I would like nothing better then to gut those responsible like the fish they are. This country is in some deep EDITED BY ADMIN. Last edited by Crpdeth; 01-11-2011 at 05:33 AM.. Reason: Discernible foul language |
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As of 4 pm today; the Az.University Hospital reports one death so far; a 9 year old child; as a result of this attack on the Congresswomen; Rep. Giffords is listed in critical condition.
So are four others. Last edited by 22shot; 01-08-2011 at 03:15 PM.. |
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Rep. Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona was shot in the head Saturday and an aide and federal judge were killed when an assailant opened fire outside a grocery store as the Democratic lawmaker met with constituents, officials said.
C.J. Karamargin, a spokesman for Giffords, said the congresswoman was in surgery as of 1 p.m. local time and that an unspecified number of Giffords staff members were injured in the shooting. Karamargin said he had no other information on the conditions of the injured or on the circumstances of the shooting. Federal officials told NBC News that U.S. District Court Judge John M. Roll was among those who was shot and had died. He was the chief judge in Arizona, appointed in 1991 by the first President Bush. He became chief judge in 2006. Congressional officials said an aide to Giffords also was killed, and unknown number of others were injured, including staffers to the lawmaker. Gabrielle Giffords President Barack Obama called the shooting "an unspeakable tragedy" and that such "a senseless and terrible act of violence has no place in a free society." U.S. Capitol police say the 22-year-old shooter was in custody as one official said he carried out the attack with a pistol. People familiar with the investigation told The Associated Press that the gunman had been identified as Jared Laughner. Advertise | AdChoicesAdvertise | AdChoices Advertise | AdChoices .The officials who described the events did so on condition of anonymity, saying they were not permitted to comment publicly. "I am horrified by the senseless attack on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and members of her staff," newly elected House Speaker John Boehner said. "An attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve. Acts and threats of violence against public officials have no place in our society. Our prayers are with Congresswoman Giffords, her staff, all who were injured, and their families. This is a sad day for our country." Three hours after the shooting, the L-shaped shopping center in Tucson was blocked off by police and had fire trucks and other vehicles in its parking lot that blocked the view of the store's front door. No shell casing could be seen from the area 500 yards from the store where reporters and photographers were kept. Giffords, 40, was re-elected to her third term last November. She was a member of the Arizona House and Senate before coming to Washington. Giffords tweeted shortly before the shooting, saying: "My 1st Congress on Your Corner starts now. Please stop by to let me know what is on your mind or tweet me later." Giffords is married to astronaut Mark E. Kelly, who has piloted space shuttles Endeavour and Discovery. The two met in China in 2003 while they were serving on a committee there, and were married in January 2007. Giffords was first elected to Congress amid a wave of Democratic victories in the 2006 election, and she won a narrow victory against a tea party favorite in the 2010 election. She has been mentioned as a possible Democratic nominee in 2012 for the U.S. Senate seat held by Republican Jon Kyl, who has not said whether he'll run again, or for the governor's office in 2014. The shooting comes amid a highly charged political environment that has seen several dangerous threats against lawmakers but nothing that reached the point of actual violence. A San Francisco man upset with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's support of health care reform pleaded guilty to threatening the Democratic congresswoman and her family, calling her directly on March 25 and threatening to destroy her Northern California home if she voted for health care reform. Video: Rep. Giffords target of harassment, threats (on this page) In July, a California man known for his anger over left-leaning politics engaged in a shootout with highway patrol officers after planning an attack on the ACLU and another nonprofit group. The man said he wanted to "start a revolution" by killing people at the ACLU and the Tides Foundation. Giffords herself has drawn the ire of the right, especially for her support of the health care bill from politicians like Sarah Palin. Advertise | AdChoicesAdvertise | AdChoices Advertise | AdChoices .Her Tucson office was vandalized a few hours after the House vote to approve the health care law in March, with someone either kicking or shooting out a glass door and window. Despite the animosity she has generated from the right, Giffords describes herself as a former Republican and current Blue Dog Democrat. "You know, actually as a former Republican, you know, I consider myself someone who is pretty in the middle, I'm a blue dog Democrat, and one that is interested in making sure that our country maintains our prosperity and frankly, our superiority over other countries and that's where we look at these threat, obviously our defense budget, our level of education," she said in an interview with Fox this week. This is a breaking news story, check back for details. The Associated Press and NBC News contributed to this report.
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THe Who;
A 22 year old caucasian male; U.S citizen; shooting a 9mm glock with an extended magazine. He was tackled by bystanders and is in custody. |
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Watched the Prez news conference: So far five dearhs; including the 9 year old girl and a Federal Judge. At this point; I believe this not to be a "issolated incident"; the shooter; Jared L. Loughtner; was highly motivated by the rabid dissent present in this country. There's a lot of that going around lately. Last edited by 22shot; 01-08-2011 at 04:21 PM.. |
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I rabidly dissent and don't go around shooting people.
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What do you think will be their response to this? Can we expect Obama to now try to control guns like he's trying to control everything else?
I think it's a setup. This is exactly how gun control started in Australia.
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That has always been in his game plan Hogger. This just gives the gun grabbers more ammunition.
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http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/08/co..._lnk1%7C194289
This is bad news for all the victims and their families and also for gun rights.
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Now is probably the time to disappear and pretend like we never had them.
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Fox News is now reporting 11 dead, and posibily more to add later today, as the on scene reporter is saying that there are still bodies in the parking lot. Stories are that some one in the crowd did shoot the suspect, and then he was tackled by another by stander.
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Must have been a "street sweeper" for the ammount of carnage ?
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OK from my sources .. about the shooter ...
------------------------------------------------------ http://therealbarackobama.wordpress....avorite-books/ The Communist Manifesto, Mein Kampf, and The New Republic were among the favorite books of Jared Lee Loughner, who is the suspected gunmen in today’s deadly shooting that reportedly left six dead and gravely injured a U.S. congresswoman. Lougher, 22, listed those books as among his favorite on his YouTube channel, in which he wrote that “conscience dreams” were a “great study” at his college, Pima Community College. One user on Twitter, Caitie Parker, wrote she went to high school, college, and was in a band with the gunman. She said she hadn’t seen him since 2007. Parker wrote of Lougher, “As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal and oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy.” She also described him as “more left.” On his now deleted MySpace page, Lougher left a series of rants, including: * If there’s no flag in the constitution then the flag in the film is unknown. There’s no flag in the constitution. Therefore, the flag in the film is unknown. Burn every new and old flag that you see. Burn your flag!” * “I bet you can imagine this in your mind with a faster speed. Watch this protest in reverse! Ask the local police; ‘What’s your illegal activity on duty?’” * “If you protest the government then there’s a new government from protesting. There’s not a new government from protesting. Thus, you aren’t protesting the government.” Three months ago, Loughner made a YouTube video in which he proclaimed, “I know you’re illiterate! This is the greatest protest for exposure into a wrongful act. The school is breaking the constitution. If you watch the video then you’ll understand. The teachers are taking advantage of you in the first and Fifth Amendment. The United States Constitution, which is the law, can be broken at this school.” ----------------------------------------------------------------- A woman named Caitie Parker has been tweeting that she went to school with Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' alleged shooter Jared Loughner and that he had met Giffords previously. Also," he was a pot head & into rock like Hendrix,The Doors, Anti-Flag. I haven't seen him in person since '07 in a sign language class" and "As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy." the tweets are located at the link .. Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/woman...#ixzz1AUFn7uNi ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seems the guy was irate about the lady politician getting $700 mill organised to build a fence and block illegal immigrants and for turning against obama , the clowns screaming the guy was a right wing nutter are way off base , he was a leftie, always was, and a obama fan like you would not believe .. do not let them spin this into a anti gun crusade , this nut was a obama-ist he was a loon , and he thought democracy sucked , he thought Christians where fools he was not a right wing gun loving Christian as i have spotted already the spin is starting , hope you all can stop it .. Last edited by jack404; 01-08-2011 at 05:05 PM.. |
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Heard on Fox that Congresswoman Gifford is a gun owner herself and supporter of the 2nd amendment. I hope this doesn't change her mind.
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this is his recreated Myspace page and his favourites and his links
his own video's have been added http://townhall.com/tipsheet/KatiePa...d_lee_loughner Last edited by jack404; 01-08-2011 at 05:17 PM.. |
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Here is my problem, Looking through all this media is a bloody mess. But here is a congress woman who was a Democrate, Pro gun controll, pro big government, pro healthcare. By her political standpoint she was in the league with those running this country into the ground. Now dont get me wrong here in saying that she deserved to be shot, no one deserves to be shot or murdered. Not in this way. Have a problem with a congress critter you vote them out.
Some thing in the back of my mind here is screaming BAD JU JU for the pro gun community, and the anti Obummer care community. Namely becouse if you havent notice especially with the last couple of administrations we have had in the white house, there has always been some sort of EVENT that has helped push agendas. Think about this for a moment. Republicans take congress, a democrate gets shot. I dont like it one bit.
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Big Ugly , thats my worry for you folks too , the spin is already starting calling the guy a gunclinging fundamentalist Christian , his own pages have all been taken down, his video rants gone and the socialist MSM is ramping up to make him out as a right wing supporter when in fact he was a libtard .. watch our eh
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Where did you get that she is pro gun control? She's not.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L1ls...ayer_embedded#!
this mutt's youtube flick , credit for saving it to Yid with Lid http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2011/...-of-jared.html Yid with Lid also needs a hand to keep doing what they do , they have been 100% spot on with all their news .. |
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And this with thanks to Robert and the men from Montana militia
his facebook page to see for yourself who this mutt's heroes are |
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