Winchester Model 94 Buffalo Bill Commemorative 30-30

detroit25 · 01-10-2011, 01:02 PM

A buddy of mine told me he had a 30-30 in his closet for the past 20yrs and Had never cleaned or oiled it since. Anyway he finally gave it to me to clean up. Now that I have it I he also wants me to see what it may be worth. As the title states its a Winchester Model 94 Buffalo Bill Commemorative 30-30 with a 20" barrel. I know nothing about leveractions and I cann't even find the serial #. Any insight is appreciated.

BTW: The condition is ruff to say the least, most of the reciever has NO blueing and there is a small spot of surface rust between the barrel and magizine tube that I think I can get off with some oil.

RJay · 01-10-2011, 01:36 PM

Commemoratives as a rule are not a good investment, but to achieve top value they must me unfired and with the original packaging and papers. Your friends 94, in the condition as you stated is worth no more than a like item, plain Jane gun. Maybe 300 , Pictures would give you a more valid value.

Alpo · 01-10-2011, 01:42 PM

Unless a commemorative gun has never been fired, has no evidence of ever having the action worked, and has all the paperwork and packing materials that came with it, it does not have collector value, and is "just a gun". A shooter. And, based on most commemoratives, a really ugly one, with multi-colored finishes (gold plated loading gate and forearm cap), engraving, medallions stuck in the stock, etc.

Since it sounds, from your description, that it falls solidly into the "shooter" category, and since they ain't by no means rare (they made over 122 thousand of 'em), I figger three, maybe four hundred, if it shoots good.

detroit25 · 01-10-2011, 01:43 PM

I'll ask him if he minds and I will try to post some pics. My biggest question is where is the serial #?

detroit25 · 01-10-2011, 01:45 PM

Oh to say its a shooter is being nice! I told he about 200bucks as a guess.

Alpo · 01-10-2011, 03:22 PM

Well, this is an 86, not a 94, but it should do for pointing at.

On the bottom of the receiver, just back of the wood (see big red spot) is the only place I've seen a serial number on Winchester 94s. I'm sure that the commemoratives have them in the same place.

detroit25 · 01-10-2011, 03:38 PM

Thats where I expectd it to be.... but its not. I am starting to wonder if it has been worn away.

Alpo · 01-10-2011, 05:06 PM

I'd say "worn away" is impossible. Intentionally removed is a possibility, though.

01-10-2011, 01:02 PM	#1
detroit25 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 51	Winchester Model 94 Buffalo Bill Commemorative 30-30 A buddy of mine told me he had a 30-30 in his closet for the past 20yrs and Had never cleaned or oiled it since. Anyway he finally gave it to me to clean up. Now that I have it I he also wants me to see what it may be worth. As the title states its a Winchester Model 94 Buffalo Bill Commemorative 30-30 with a 20" barrel. I know nothing about leveractions and I cann't even find the serial #. Any insight is appreciated. BTW: The condition is ruff to say the least, most of the reciever has NO blueing and there is a small spot of surface rust between the barrel and magizine tube that I think I can get off with some oil. -->

01-10-2011, 01:36 PM	#2
RJay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,484	Re: Winchester Model 94 Buffalo Bill Commemorative 30-30 Commemoratives as a rule are not a good investment, but to achieve top value they must me unfired and with the original packaging and papers. Your friends 94, in the condition as you stated is worth no more than a like item, plain Jane gun. Maybe 300 , Pictures would give you a more valid value. __________________ RonJames

01-10-2011, 01:42 PM	#3
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,647	Re: Winchester Model 94 Buffalo Bill Commemorative 30-30 Unless a commemorative gun has never been fired, has no evidence of ever having the action worked, and has all the paperwork and packing materials that came with it, it does not have collector value, and is "just a gun". A shooter. And, based on most commemoratives, a really ugly one, with multi-colored finishes (gold plated loading gate and forearm cap), engraving, medallions stuck in the stock, etc. Since it sounds, from your description, that it falls solidly into the "shooter" category, and since they ain't by no means rare (they made over 122 thousand of 'em), I figger three, maybe four hundred, if it shoots good. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

01-10-2011, 01:43 PM	#4
detroit25 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 51	Re: Winchester Model 94 Buffalo Bill Commemorative 30-30 I'll ask him if he minds and I will try to post some pics. My biggest question is where is the serial #? Last edited by detroit25; 01-10-2011 at 01:44 PM..

01-10-2011, 01:45 PM	#5
detroit25 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 51	Re: Winchester Model 94 Buffalo Bill Commemorative 30-30 Oh to say its a shooter is being nice! I told he about 200bucks as a guess.

01-10-2011, 03:22 PM	#6
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,647	Re: Winchester Model 94 Buffalo Bill Commemorative 30-30 Well, this is an 86, not a 94, but it should do for pointing at. On the bottom of the receiver, just back of the wood (see big red spot) is the only place I've seen a serial number on Winchester 94s. I'm sure that the commemoratives have them in the same place. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

01-10-2011, 03:38 PM	#7
detroit25 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 51	Re: Winchester Model 94 Buffalo Bill Commemorative 30-30 Thats where I expectd it to be.... but its not. I am starting to wonder if it has been worn away.

01-10-2011, 05:06 PM	#8
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,647	Re: Winchester Model 94 Buffalo Bill Commemorative 30-30 I'd say "worn away" is impossible. Intentionally removed is a possibility, though. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.