500 VS 50AE

[gendoikari87]

I see you use SBGO, I like you. Yeah, you really need a higher Weight bullet for those short barreled guns for hunting. Slower bullets accelerate quickly giving less time for the powder to burn leading to lower overall energies. Granted a .500 is going to be overkill anyway to MOST game. In fact, pretty much all game save for really big moose and some bears.

Edit: what's with the red tipped bullets?

[dragman]

Originally Posted by JLA

I like my shorty, though it pales in comparison to the mighty .500, but itll still belch 240 grains of lead out at 1200 fps...

oh, pretty! I love a .44!

[JLA]

Originally Posted by gendoikari87

I see you use SBGO, I like you. Yeah, you really need a higher Weight bullet for those short barreled guns for hunting. Slower bullets accelerate quickly giving less time for the powder to burn leading to lower overall energies. Granted a .500 is going to be overkill anyway to MOST game. In fact, pretty much all game save for really big moose and some bears.

Edit: what's with the red tipped bullets?

225 gr hornady leverevolution, I bought them to try, pretty accurate, held a 3 inch group at 25 yds, which is quite impressive for a shorty...

[JLA]

Originally Posted by dragman

oh, pretty! I love a .44!

Thanks brother! My youngest boy has nicknamed this the 'fatgun' hes 3 and he says its his...

[JLA]

btw gendo, my guns arent the only thing I use SBGO for, go check out the SBGO test thread in technical questions forum.

[mesinge2]

Originally Posted by JLA
I like my shorty, though it pales in comparison to the mighty .500, but itll still belch 240 grains of lead out at 1200 fps...

Here's my short 44 with some 300 grainers

[dragman]

I took it out last night and shot a little. Love this gun!!! I ran 5 of each of the bullets I bought out of it and I am gonna have to do some shooting for group later to decide which way to go 300 polymer tipped hornaday 2025fps?? or 350 grain JHP hornaday 1900fps?? I am sure out of this shorty they are probably 300-400 fps slower than advertised and I will find out when I get the time to dig the chrono out and play more.

[redwing carson]

In the real world a handgun regardless of power is used inside 50 yards for most hunting. Big powerful handguns carried for use against big bears will be used inside of 10 yards. The .44 Mag or a .45 Colt has worked well for years in these tight conditions. Many a bad bear has went to his rewards from these two calibers. The key to these attacks always come down to one thing. Will you carry the handgun all the time in bear country. Most of the big 500s etc end up being left in camp after a few days in the high country. The old 4" 29s and short barreled Rugers are more likely to be on the belt in those last minutes of hell on earth.

RC

[dragman]

Originally Posted by redwing carson

In the real world a handgun regardless of power is used inside 50 yards for most hunting. Big powerful handguns carried for use against big bears will be used inside of 10 yards. The .44 Mag or a .45 Colt has worked well for years in these tight conditions. Many a bad bear has went to his rewards from these two calibers. The key to these attacks always come down to one thing. Will you carry the handgun all the time in bear country. Most of the big 500s etc end up being left in camp after a few days in the high country. The old 4" 29s and short barreled Rugers are more likely to be on the belt in those last minutes of hell on earth.

RC

Your right for most people. I carry my colt .45 1911 all the time! I almost never don't have it. but I promise you I am the king of overkill and am not the person to ever leave guns behind!

[gendoikari87]

not to mention snub noses are just plain fun to shoot. and the larger the caliber the better.

[JLA]

Originally Posted by mesinge2

Here's my short 44 with some 300 grainers

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love that ball of fire!

[mesinge2]

Originally Posted by JLA

love that ball of fire!

Only get the good ones from BP or a shortie

[JLA]

yup. I had a .308 pistol that was built on a spanish mauser action that had a 13 inch tube, it was nicknamed "the flamethrower" the resulting ball of fire was longer than the weapon was and as wide as I am.

[gendoikari87]

I really want one of those. Brake action right? Seems almost as fun as a snubby .500, and looks a lot cooler.

Like this:


Before my computer Crashed in my second year of college I had designed a break open .75 caliber pistol. it was a super short round, but I'm kinda glad it got wiped out. I twasn't my most brilliant work, as even as fun as it seemd it'd still probably have broken my wrist if I ever actually made it. not to mention, this was back when my formulas for guns I had worked out didn't involve powder burn time. Back then I had just kinda figured it all burned in a short enough time that it wouldn't matter and the extremely wide short round would allow for a high efficiency due to the high volume swept out.

[JLA]

nah, the one I built was a cut down spanish mauser bolt action that had been rebarreled to .308 for the civil guardia, I modified the stock for a pistol grip, cut and crowned the barrel, fit a scope and bipod and shot the hell out of it, it was a single shot, I filled the floorplate with lead to add weight so recoil didnt knock it off the table... theres a thread on it here somewheres, ill go fetch it...

[JLA]

here it is, i knew it was still here somewheres

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=58790

[Mosin_Nagant_Fan]

Originally Posted by gendoikari87

isn't the .50ae only a 45 necked up?

I just wanted to put my input in on this comment, in that the 50AE is pretty much an original round. The 50GI is the one that is based on the 45ACP round, much to the point that you only need to buy a slide, barrel and bushings, you can pretty much use your 45 mags. (Dunno how tight of a squeeze you'd put on it, though.)

[cpttango30]

PLEASE

If you want a big bore kick ares semi get yourself a Coonan. They are SWEET.....

http://coonaninc.com/

We made it to their booth at Shot Show and Man are they nice people. Dan Coonan was laughing and joking with us. My buddy asked for a pic with Dan and He was goofin off and gave him this big hug in the pic. IT was so funny. Really are a great bunch of people.

[RB.44]

Have shot many rnds through both and own a 500 S&W. I like the S&W better than the AE, but would rather shoot my .44 Mag than either.

[Country101]

Either would be fun. AE is just a good looking gun.

[cpttango30]

I didn't like shooting the DE because it kept spitting brass in my face no matter what I did.

[American Leader]

Me like'em Guns! Big Guns! Must have Big Gun! This thread is just toooo muucchhhh!!!! Must have Dragmans Big Gun! Dragman must offer up to American Leader His S&W 500 to keep American Leader Happy!

[76Highboy]

Originally Posted by American Leader

Me like'em Guns! Big Guns! Must have Big Gun! This thread is just toooo muucchhhh!!!! Must have Dragmans Big Gun! Dragman must offer up to American Leader His S&W 500 to keep American Leader Happy!

I like big guns too. I have never shot a S&W 500 but would like too. I think Dragman should give it to me AL. You know something else I would like,,,, 2 big fat malted milk shakes. Mmm, good.