GCN: Gun Control Now

[gendoikari87]

A) can your neighbor sue you for that?

B) Where can buy them in bulk?

[armedandsafe]

When we were fighting the "It's Crime, Bill" I made up a number of window stickers of the red circle with the pistol slashed out. At the bottom it said "NO GUNS IN THIS HOUSE!" I distributed them to gun stores, hardware stores, sport shops and others, for free distribution. We couldn't find one taker, because one had to promise to put them in their window.

Pops

[johnlives4christ]

one amusing point is, i bet if a criminal was trying to kill mrsT she would use a gun if one was available, instead of running or fist fighting. just like rosey odonnell is anti gun to the extreme but has armed body guards.

[johnlives4christ]

Originally Posted by armedandsafe

When we were fighting the "It's Crime, Bill" I made up a number of window stickers of the red circle with the pistol slashed out. At the bottom it said "NO GUNS IN THIS HOUSE!" I distributed them to gun stores, hardware stores, sport shops and others, for free distribution. We couldn't find one taker, because one had to promise to put them in their window.

Pops

kinda like when people put a sticker for a security system in their window but dont really have one. or when they get those sound activated barking dog recordings

[45nut]

Originally Posted by MrsTeresa

Proving my point. The people who think such as yourselves are all so quick to jump and begin by calling me names when all I did was ask a few questions. It's a proven fact that cities/states with more gun control laws enforced have lower crime rates. Maybe if you weren't all so concerned with owning power (your guns) you would realize that in order for a modern society to function properly the government must be held higher then our rights to an extent. Guns corrupt people, and people kill. You can honestly say that the world is a better place because everyone in the USA is allowed the right to bear arms? What are guns designed for: killing. Death. Destruction. Giving men false power.

Mrs. T,

You could not be more wrong regarding crime and crime stats. Historically, cities with the most restrictive gun laws have the highest crime rates. The simple reason for this is, while the criminals do not disarm per local statutes, the honest citizen will. Thus, the law abiding is unarmed and unable to defend him/herself from the unlawfully armed criminal.

You don't have to like guns and you don't have to own them, but the Second Amendment enumerates our God given right to protect life liberty and property, by force if we need to.

Do you know what specific event caused the first shots to be fired in the Revolutionary War? The British were marching to Lexington & Concord to confiscate the Colonials stored weapon's. In other words, the British were going to disarm us, so we would be easier to beat back into submission.

http://www.american-partisan.com/cols/blanks/081400.htm

Read the article in the above link. A couple of quotes:

When one asks a gun control supporter why they support additional gun laws they will undeniably answer that they do so to stop crime, and to "save the children." The same thing can be said for gun control groups like Handgun Control, Inc. and the Violence Policy Center. Obviously, these are positive goals, which are shared by this author and essentially every law-abiding citizen in the United States. However, the problem with this position by gun control supporters is that there is no evidence to show that any of their laws have ever reduced crime or violence. Hence, the question must be asked; does gun control equal crime control?

A review of the areas in the U.S. with the most restrictive firearm laws, including such areas as Washington, D.C., Chicago, IL, New York, NY, and the state of California, shows that these areas have some of the highest crime (especially violent) crime rates in the U.S. The crime rates in all of these areas exceeds the national average and they all have enacted in-depth restrictions on firearm ownership that includes licensing and registration schemes, various taxes, testing, and even bans on firearms. In essence, these areas have become a gun control supporters Utopia.

Yet, even with all of these gun laws and the high praise from gun control groups like Handgun Control, Inc., crime has continued to be a serious problem. The issue of continued high crime is especially disconcerting when comparing the crime rates in these gun control Utopias to the crime rates in areas that have not gone the route of extreme gun control. In almost all cases, the areas in the U.S. with the fewest gun control laws and highest gun ownership also have the lowest crime levels. One of the most interesting comparisons is that of Washington, D.C. with its gun bans since the 1970s, and the D.C. suburbs in Virginia, which has very little gun control. Even though gun ownership is high and there are few gun control laws in the Virginia suburbs of D.C., gun control has reached extreme levels, the crime rate is much higher across the state line where gun ownership is almost non-existent.

[45nut]

Originally Posted by MrsTeresa

You're telling me that you would honestly shoot someone stealing your car? And then go to jail for manslaughter.. what you all are failing to understand is that you have the wrong approach. The man attacks you physically? Run. Claim he's faster? It's your own fault for not being in shape enough to outrun him. He pulls a gun? Sure, then you could do the same... but oh, wait.. that wouldn't happen with more gun control laws would it? Regardless, why even risk it rising to such a level, take guns out of the picture completely. The government has the power to do as it wishes. If guns were to be banned, they would take care of them. Remove them from civilian circulation and I guarantee the crime would be reduced by AT THE LEAST, 50%

Did someone let Algore sign up???? ROTFLMFAO, this is seriously rich. I haven't had such a good belly laugh in a long time.

Remember folks, these people exist and they vote. Vote early and often, I say.

[45nut]

Originally Posted by MrsTeresa

You couldn't prove my point any better.

You think taking life is a joke?!

God save you.

Ma'am,

If you knew Crpdeth, you would know he is a gentle, artistic phtographer who wouldn't harm a fly. He would however, kill an intruder trying to harm him, as we all would.

I respect your opinion, but on this forum, you certainly are ah... uhm.... outgunned





Sorry, I got here late, but wanted to get in a little trollin anyways. Sometimes you just have to warm yer hands on the barrel of yer gun

[zkovach]

Originally Posted by johnlives4christ

one amusing point is, i bet if a criminal was trying to kill mrsT she would use a gun if one was available, instead of running or fist fighting. just like rosey odonnell is anti gun to the extreme but has armed body guards.

Sounds just like long time anti gun congressman r. C. Soles who shot a man outside his home.

[hogger129]

Originally Posted by MrsTeresa

I honestly don't get what the big deal is. Everyone wants to just run around with their guns and get to brag about how great they are. If someone could just tell me, what good do guns bring to the world? Why are you all so hellbent on "protecting" your rights? I doubt many of you know much at all regarding the things you speak of, and there's no denying that without guns the world would be a much safer and happier place for us all. Rights? I have a RIGHT to be safe, and thats not something that happens with people such as yourselves toting the heat. Control laws all the way.

Without guns, there would be no such thing as the United States of America, or "rights."

The Second Amendment is as important as the Constitution itself.

Your right to be safe? Where in the Constitution does it say that? I recall it saying I have a right to keep and bear arms and that right shall not be infringed.

I don't recall it saying your perceived 'right to be safe' trumping my Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

I agree with Ron White a little more after reading this post. You can't fix stupid.

[hogger129]

Originally Posted by MrsTeresa

Proving my point. The people who think such as yourselves are all so quick to jump and begin by calling me names when all I did was ask a few questions. It's a proven fact that cities/states with more gun control laws enforced have lower crime rates. Maybe if you weren't all so concerned with owning power (your guns) you would realize that in order for a modern society to function properly the government must be held higher then our rights to an extent. Guns corrupt people, and people kill. You can honestly say that the world is a better place because everyone in the USA is allowed the right to bear arms? What are guns designed for: killing. Death. Destruction. Giving men false power.

Like Chicago right? I'd like to see a source to back up this "claim." Because it seems more like a "claim" than a fact.

New York City's crime rate has only gone down because they employ about twice as many police officers as Chicago.

Whereas if they empowered the citizens to carry weapons to protect themselves, they would save lots of money.

[shorter260513]

Since MrsTeresa wants to just ask questions as she has pointed out I have one for her and here goes
Why have you only reacted to the small number of posts that seem to be the same as yours and are just said to get a reaction and completely ignored any post that states well known facts that blow your allegations completely out of the water and expose them for the lies they are?

[hogger129]

Originally Posted by MrsTeresa

I'm expected to give respect to these types of responses? You're telling me to tone down and respect you without doing the same to me.

Typical, flamboyant, redneck gun owners.

Why not restrict self defense to hand to hand? Darwin's theory people..

Guns- human invention of the weak.
Gun control laws- a balance to the false power.

I'm not a redneck. I live in the city. You talk about namecalling and all this and that, here you are. What do you have to say to this? Or are you going to ignore me like most of the other posters here because you know you're in the wrong?

And why not restrict self defense to hand to hand? Again you are not getting the big picture. A "criminal" is not going to abide by the law. You put your fists up, they pull a gun. Now what do you do? Run away and pray to God you don't get shot in the back? Let me know how that works out for you. For now, the Second Amendment still exists and the Supreme Court has ruled that it protects an individual right to have guns, and that it also applies to handguns. Read em and weep.

[hogger129]

I'm not in favor of censoring this person in any way, but why are we honestly wasting our time talking to someone like this? We know these people don't have a shred of common sense in them. And they obviously refuse to listen to factual information that has been posted here.

[dons2346]

I can't believe you guys suckered up to a troll like this. She/he wound you guys up like a 2 dollar watch.

[Redhand]

Well, Ms T the very government that you would grant Omnipotent power, placed a machine gun in my 18 yr. old hands sent me off to a third world(stone age) country to kill all of the little yellow people I found, when it was gover-n-mentally necessary. And you forgot to mention that it was yours as well as my security that was being protected by Uncle sugar. Well, I now choose to be self reliant for my own protection and choose the time and place to fight my battles. You are racist and bigoted for call us Rednecks and men( in a derogatory ) frame of reference. You must be a man basher. You make several references to the guns power. The guns power is derived from the man and woman behind the gun to take personal responsibility for protected their own. Does your same logic about being assaulted apply to females? You girls should just run faster when you are about to get raped and save face by saying , OH! the guy was just faster. My advice to you is to put down the pipe, pull your cranial cavity out of your anal cavity and join the real world. Other than that, Thats all I've got to say about that. Here's wishing you a full tube of Preparation H in your holier than thou world.

[Redhand]

Because in her own words it empowers us like our guns.Sticks and Stones may break my bones but a gun in the right hands might kill me first.

[WTC7SmokingGun]

I wonder if this person knows that some lives are worth taking to ensure the safety of the rest of the world...

Safety isn't a right or even a privilege. Freedom is a right.

"There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket." -- General Smedley Butler, USMC

But in a way I agree with you... in the course of human events, sometimes fascist Nazi pigs take over your country, and that's when the people's right to bear arms comes in handy. Heck, the people of Egypt could use some more guns right about now too.

[johnlives4christ]

Originally Posted by rentalguy1

I laughed a little at this, because of the sarcasm of it all, BUT THEN...






I shot coffee out of my nose at this!

I wonder what this person knows about taking a life. I wonder if this person knows that some lives are worth taking to ensure the safety of the rest of the world...

lol

[Double D]

Im glad you guys are so passionate, but you have totally wasted your time and effort. I am going to guess that this troll was actually the last "former guest" that got mad about being ousted and came back as a female troll just to get everyones dander up. I know there is always that "sliver of hope" that this person could possibly see the light, but history shows us its not likely. I have spent the better part of my adult life argueing with these idiots and it just doesnt work. The ONLY thing that works is to have them or one of their family members raped or killed before it sets in. But really, do you guys believe this was a real mrsT? I highly doubt it. This person came to upset you and it totally worked. Like I said, troll, nothing more.

[Kestral]

If the worst of the worst happened,I would prefere to end by the gun,than by an axe or machette.

[ozo]

Originally Posted by Kestral

If the worst of the worst happened,I would prefere to end by the gun,than by an axe or machette.

Yeah, going out like William Wallace would suck !

[AL MOUNT]

It would really freak the poor lady out to know that

she is talking to members of the "World's Largest Army" ...

The American Hunter/Gun Owners . ..

[gendoikari87]

Originally Posted by WTC7SmokingGun

Safety isn't a right or even a privilege. Freedom is a right.

"There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket." -- General Smedley Butler, USMC

But in a way I agree with you... in the course of human events, sometimes fascist Nazi pigs take over your country, and that's when the people's right to bear arms comes in handy. Heck, the people of Egypt could use some more guns right about now too.

Lol, Smedly butler should know about fascist pigs, he stopped a coup to overthrow the american government by the big wigs in bussiness.

[rocklinskier]

A few folks here are responding a bit over emotional, and even spouting some sort of idea that it would be thrilling to 'kill an intruder' and such....

That is not the mantra of the average person on this forum.

It is interesting to me that Ms. T is only posting replies that focus on that very small minority, but has made NO responses to the factual data, the reasonable responses, or the answers to her actual question of 'why do you feel the need to defend your rights'

As often, folks of 'her' mental state, reason, logic, and self defense mean nothing, only the indocturnation of left wing gun haters.

Perhaps she or anyone that she knows have never been unfortunate enough to be in a situation where their life was in danger from a meth/coke/drink/ or just plain crazy person. Or perhaps she spends all of her time listening to the preachings of her anti-gun buddies, rather than seeing how many home invasions happen every day, or senseless 4+ to one beatdowns happen on a regular basis.

Would I shoot someone for stealing my car....not likely. Would I shoot someone who was crashing into my home and likely to do me, my wife, my children harm. You better beleive it.

It's a wet dream scenario that you can 'run away'. But tell that to the dead people who are victims of the 'illegal' drug addicts who rob, kill, and maime for any chance of getting fifty bucks to buy their next fix.

yea yea, I'm sure that never happens.....it's just gun hugging retoric....get a clue.
You say the 'getting rid of guns', AKA making them illegal, would solve all violent crime. Well then. Terrific! Wait...isn't violent crime already illegal? so how is it that we have violent crime...hmmm..i must be missing something here.

Wanna call me a redneck. Fine. Wanna call me a gun nut. Fine. Call me anything you want, but stay the heck outta my house, get a job, keep your hands off my family. Don't like guns, fine, don't buy one. Don't try to control EVERYONE else from having something you don't beleive in.

Go to the gym, run every day, be happy in your sense of security that you will always be "able to get away from an attacker".
I wish you no harm, but I'm not a criminal.

Making guns illegal......that's a joke. Look how well it worked for alchohol, meth, cocaine, heroin, immigration, drunk driving......the list goes on.

End of rant....I'm sure it did no good

[carver]

Where did the troll go?