Which Stainless 1911? - The Firearms Forum

mesinge2 · 02-04-2011, 05:23 PM

I always wanted an all Stainless government model 1911. I have 5 others; three are blued one is two-tone and the other is a stainless defender. All are Colts but one and I think I'd another non-colt 1911, just for something different. I want to keep it single stack though. Also, I don't have a preference for or against FLGRs or internal vs. external extractors (as long as it works).

The Smith is the new "E" Series that is a series 70 style with a FLGR requiring a bushing wrench.

The Dan Wesson is also a series 70 but with a GI guide rod.

The Para is a series 80 style (I think?) with a FLGR requiring a bushing wrench.

I looked at some Springfields but I dislike the allen wrench take down procedure.

Here are the ones I can't choose between:

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SHAMUSPI · 02-04-2011, 06:01 PM

After reading this month's Guns and Ammo magazine about the Smith Enhanced models, it would definately be the S&W.

mesinge2 · 02-04-2011, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SHAMUSPI

After reading this month's Guns and Ammo magazine about the Smith Enhanced models, it would definately be the S&W.

That's what sparked this

Old Guy · 02-04-2011, 06:11 PM

All are good. I chose the Dan Wesson because I think of those three choices it is the best. I would have to add Springfield to the equation as a solid choice to consider.

TheGunClinger · 02-04-2011, 06:16 PM

I only voted for "Something else" because I dont know a thing about your other choices. I only know about the Springer TRP that I have. So my vote is the TRP.
However, your other options are SWEET!

Double D · 02-04-2011, 06:36 PM

The new smith e-series is nice. I am looking for the sc commander myself. Smith retooled their maine plant for these. Sweet. Dealer price on the commander is a grand, msrp around 1250.00

garydude · 02-04-2011, 07:37 PM

I voted Smith Wesson for purely aesthetic reasons. Love those grips!

FWIW I have an older Smith stainless and the FLGR is no inconvenience. I just take the bottom of the magazine, depress the spring holder, turn the bushing sideways and walla! It's really something that doesn't require the wrench. (I have one, I never use it)

They are all beauties though. Tough decision!

mesinge2 · 02-04-2011, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

The new smith e-series is nice. I am looking for the sc commander myself. Smith retooled their maine plant for these. Sweet. Dealer price on the commander is a grand, msrp around 1250.00

That price is from Smith's site: http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...layErrorView_Y

I was surprised it was so cheap as well.

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Originally Posted by garydude

They are all beauties though. Tough decision!

That's the problem I am having. If I was rich I'd buy them all.

308 at my gate · 02-04-2011, 07:44 PM

I voted for the para . Like you I have about 5 45's and although I do not have a stainless I do have a para and I have never had a problem.

cycloneman · 02-04-2011, 10:54 PM

For a thousand dollars why not go with the Kimber trg mdl

http://www.kimberamerica.com/1911/cu...less-target-ii

I had voted for the S&W because of the choices you had and then i got to thinking about your last line "what else"

I like the kimber.n Real smooth trigger and the gun is real tight. QUALITY.

ivarr · 02-05-2011, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cycloneman

For a thousand dollars why not go with the Kimber trg mdl

http://www.kimberamerica.com/1911/cu...less-target-ii

I had voted for the S&W because of the choices you had and then i got to thinking about your last line "what else"

I like the kimber.n Real smooth trigger and the gun is real tight. QUALITY.

i agree with kimber as a choice.

and i don't like external extractors and feel they certainly do NOT belong on a pistol claiming to be a 1911, so the smith is out as far as i'm concerned

zb338 · 02-05-2011, 08:49 PM

I have an S&W target model stainless. I love it and it is
very accurate and sweet shooting. It doen't jam. If I use
good ammo.

Zeke

silvertip44 · 02-05-2011, 08:57 PM

I went with the Kimber Ultra Carry II stainless.

Gunner Snipe · 02-06-2011, 12:45 AM

I really can't say much about the others but my "something else" pick is Kimber. I have two now, one a stainless Custom model and the other an Ultra CDP II. I have had no issues with either one. The Ultra CDP II has about 6500 rounds through it and the Custom about 5000. The only times that either has malfed was when I was adjusting bullet seating depth on new reloads.

JUNKKING · 02-06-2011, 05:34 AM

I got to shoot a S&W Enhanced today at the range, POA was excellent but other than that it didn't impress me over my Sig. It also had a compensator on it which made it nicely balanced but very loud in the indoor range. If I were really looking for a 1911 I would pass on the S&W for that kind of money there are far better guns out there.

Double D · 02-06-2011, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mesinge2

That price is from Smith's site: http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...layErrorView_Y

I was surprised it was so cheap as well.

That's the problem I am having. If I was rich I'd buy them all.

Yea, if I can get my hands on the new smiths, I can blow that price out of the water. Just cant get them yet.

mesinge2 · 02-06-2011, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Double D

Yea, if I can get my hands on the new smiths, I can blow that price out of the water. Just cant get them yet.

Double D, if you get the particular Smith I posted above in stock send me a PM.

Double D · 02-06-2011, 08:39 AM

I certanly will. I have feelers out for the commander now and none of my suppliers have seen them yet. I sure hope they are not like the kel tec pmr 30. If I see them I will let you know and you do the same for me.

mesinge2 · 02-06-2011, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double D

I certanly will. I have feelers out for the commander now and none of my suppliers have seen them yet. I sure hope they are not like the kel tec pmr 30. If I see them I will let you know and you do the same for me.

Will do.

berto64 · 02-06-2011, 12:07 PM

Something Else= Randall 1911 type .45 cal. SS

What can I say, I love odd 1911's.

johnlives4christ · 02-06-2011, 06:23 PM

id go springfield armory milspec or loaded depending on the features you want

Helix_FR · 02-06-2011, 09:39 PM

STI, nuff said. Heck with the rest. Especially Springfield (Sorry John, Ive seen enough crap from them lately

.) and Para (odd ball specs) .

mesinge2 · 02-07-2011, 03:43 PM

I forgot about STI!!

What is the best stainless STI 5" single stack model?

Double D · 02-07-2011, 03:53 PM

I havent seen any all stainless STI models. Some are 2 tone but maybe I am wrong?

Recoiladdict · 02-07-2011, 04:03 PM

Go with a kimber great guns and will retain there value or maybe even be worth more. Fires better than any other 1911 I've ever shot.

View Poll Results: Which Stainless 1911?
Dan Wesson	5	19.23%
Smith & Wesson	4	15.38%
Para USA	3	11.54%
Something else, but what?	14	53.85%
Voters: 26. You may not vote on this poll

02-04-2011, 05:23 PM	#1
mesinge2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 538	Which Stainless 1911? I always wanted an all Stainless government model 1911. I have 5 others; three are blued one is two-tone and the other is a stainless defender. All are Colts but one and I think I'd another non-colt 1911, just for something different. I want to keep it single stack though. Also, I don't have a preference for or against FLGRs or internal vs. external extractors (as long as it works). The Smith is the new "E" Series that is a series 70 style with a FLGR requiring a bushing wrench. The Dan Wesson is also a series 70 but with a GI guide rod. The Para is a series 80 style (I think?) with a FLGR requiring a bushing wrench. I looked at some Springfields but I dislike the allen wrench take down procedure. Here are the ones I can't choose between: Attachment 43555 Attachment 43556 Attachment 43557 __________________ NRA Certified Instructor "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercise. I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind ... Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." 1785, Thomas Jefferson. --> Last edited by mesinge2; 02-23-2011 at 07:17 PM..

02-04-2011, 06:01 PM	#2
SHAMUSPI Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Puget Sound, WA Posts: 17	Re: Which Stainless 1911? After reading this month's Guns and Ammo magazine about the Smith Enhanced models, it would definately be the S&W. __________________ I have been called *Evil, Wicked, Mean and Nasty.......*I'm okay with that.

02-04-2011, 06:11 PM	#4
Old Guy V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Beaufort County, NC Contributor Posts: 342	Re: Which Stainless 1911? All are good. I chose the Dan Wesson because I think of those three choices it is the best. I would have to add Springfield to the equation as a solid choice to consider. __________________ Old Guy ___________ NRA Life Member GOA Life Member

02-04-2011, 06:16 PM	#5
TheGunClinger Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SW Florida Contributor Posts: 2,378	Re: Which Stainless 1911? I only voted for "Something else" because I dont know a thing about your other choices. I only know about the Springer TRP that I have. So my vote is the TRP. However, your other options are SWEET! __________________ New England Patriots Rule Next year. Last edited by TheGunClinger; 02-04-2011 at 06:18 PM..

02-04-2011, 06:36 PM	#6
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,052	Re: Which Stainless 1911? The new smith e-series is nice. I am looking for the sc commander myself. Smith retooled their maine plant for these. Sweet. Dealer price on the commander is a grand, msrp around 1250.00 __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder. Last edited by Double D; 02-04-2011 at 06:39 PM..

02-04-2011, 07:37 PM	#7
garydude Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Desert Southwest Proper Contributor Posts: 741	Re: Which Stainless 1911? I voted Smith Wesson for purely aesthetic reasons. Love those grips! FWIW I have an older Smith stainless and the FLGR is no inconvenience. I just take the bottom of the magazine, depress the spring holder, turn the bushing sideways and walla! It's really something that doesn't require the wrench. (I have one, I never use it) They are all beauties though. Tough decision!

02-04-2011, 07:44 PM	#9
308 at my gate Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Lost in SW USA. Posts: 847	Re: Which Stainless 1911? I voted for the para . Like you I have about 5 45's and although I do not have a stainless I do have a para and I have never had a problem. __________________ You got to love it.

02-04-2011, 10:54 PM	#10
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,398	Re: Which Stainless 1911? For a thousand dollars why not go with the Kimber trg mdl http://www.kimberamerica.com/1911/cu...less-target-ii I had voted for the S&W because of the choices you had and then i got to thinking about your last line "what else" I like the kimber.n Real smooth trigger and the gun is real tight. QUALITY. Attached Images __________________ Who are you going to serve today? Last edited by cycloneman; 02-04-2011 at 10:59 PM..

02-05-2011, 08:49 PM	#12
zb338 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Recently moved to Pennsylvania. Posts: 286	Re: Which Stainless 1911? I have an S&W target model stainless. I love it and it is very accurate and sweet shooting. It doen't jam. If I use good ammo. Zeke

02-05-2011, 08:57 PM	#13
silvertip44 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Acworth, Georgia Northwest of Atlanta in the edge of the mountains. Posts: 19	Re: Which Stainless 1911? I went with the Kimber Ultra Carry II stainless.

02-06-2011, 12:45 AM	#14
Gunner Snipe Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Erie County, Ohio Posts: 6	Re: Which Stainless 1911? I really can't say much about the others but my "something else" pick is Kimber. I have two now, one a stainless Custom model and the other an Ultra CDP II. I have had no issues with either one. The Ultra CDP II has about 6500 rounds through it and the Custom about 5000. The only times that either has malfed was when I was adjusting bullet seating depth on new reloads. __________________ neil casper "I've been there and done that. Now I'm tired and I'm going home!". Last edited by Gunner Snipe; 02-06-2011 at 01:01 AM..

02-06-2011, 05:34 AM	#15
JUNKKING Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Just East of Pittsburgh PA Contributor Posts: 1,764	Re: Which Stainless 1911? I got to shoot a S&W Enhanced today at the range, POA was excellent but other than that it didn't impress me over my Sig. It also had a compensator on it which made it nicely balanced but very loud in the indoor range. If I were really looking for a 1911 I would pass on the S&W for that kind of money there are far better guns out there. __________________ Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and again!

02-06-2011, 08:39 AM	#18
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,052	Re: Which Stainless 1911? I certanly will. I have feelers out for the commander now and none of my suppliers have seen them yet. I sure hope they are not like the kel tec pmr 30. If I see them I will let you know and you do the same for me. __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder.

02-06-2011, 12:07 PM	#20
berto64 VMBB Admin Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Owyhee County, Idaho Contributor Posts: 7,385	Re: Which Stainless 1911? Something Else= Randall 1911 type .45 cal. SS What can I say, I love odd 1911's. __________________ Be who you are & say what you will, Those that matter won't mind and those that mind don't matter. I'm a bitter clinger, One Nation Under God.

02-06-2011, 06:23 PM	#21
johnlives4christ Former Guest Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,828	Re: Which Stainless 1911? id go springfield armory milspec or loaded depending on the features you want

02-06-2011, 09:39 PM	#22
Helix_FR TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Imperial, MO Posts: 3,617	Re: Which Stainless 1911? STI, nuff said. Heck with the rest. Especially Springfield (Sorry John, Ive seen enough crap from them lately.) and Para (odd ball specs) . __________________ Only cowards shoot with their eyes closed.... helixgunsmith.com

02-07-2011, 03:43 PM	#23
mesinge2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 538	Re: Which Stainless 1911? I forgot about STI!! What is the best stainless STI 5" single stack model? __________________ NRA Certified Instructor "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercise. I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind ... Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." 1785, Thomas Jefferson.

02-07-2011, 03:53 PM	#24
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,052	Re: Which Stainless 1911? I havent seen any all stainless STI models. Some are 2 tone but maybe I am wrong? __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder.

02-07-2011, 04:03 PM	#25
Recoiladdict Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3	Re: Which Stainless 1911? Go with a kimber great guns and will retain there value or maybe even be worth more. Fires better than any other 1911 I've ever shot. Last edited by Recoiladdict; 02-07-2011 at 04:04 PM.. Reason: Misspelled word