bp revolvers ???? - The Firearms Forum

remington1990 · 02-22-2011, 03:54 PM

I am looking at either a 1858 army or a 1860 army I like the looks of the 1860 army but the. 1858 army has the top strap so I can take the cylinder with having to take the gun apart. And what's everybody views on changing the cylinder in a civil war reenactment on the field. And what everybody views on pietta revolver thanks

Pustic · 02-23-2011, 02:03 AM

I own five 1858 Remingtons and no Colts. Go with the Remington.

You can also convert the .44 to a .45 Long Colt just by switching the cylinder.

hunter29180 · 02-23-2011, 07:57 AM

many civil war shooters carry extra cylinders. on the battle field 10 sec reloads were the diffrence between living and "pushing" daisys. i had a old picture of 2 union sharpshooters cleaning their pistols and rifles. they each had 7-8 cylinders on the camp table for the pistols.

tyc · 02-23-2011, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by hunter29180

... had a old picture of 2 union sharpshooters cleaning their pistols ... each had 7-8 cylinders on the camp table for the pistols.

Good grief! ... and I thought three, perhaps four cylinders to go with my Remington "New Army" would be sufficient. :-)

tyc

hawksnest88 · 02-23-2011, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tyc

Good grief! ... and I thought three, perhaps four cylinders to go with my Remington "New Army" would be sufficient. :-)
tyc

Depends what/who is in front of you, gonna eat you.

Bill

remington1990 · 02-23-2011, 10:53 AM

I think I will go with the remington because I some people told me that changing the cylinder wasn't done as much as they do it in the reenactments but they said it was done some. Thanks

imray · 02-28-2011, 03:01 PM

after the battles, the soldiers that were still alive and in fighting condition for the next battle would scavenge the battlefield of the dead and take any cylinders or guns that might help them in the next battle. At the beginning of the battle they may have 3 or 4 handguns stuck in their belts along with as many charged cylinders that would easily change out like the new army cyl. and just toss them aside as the fight progressed. If they survived they could come back later perhaps and pick up more replacements for the next fight. After many battles they found barrels stuffed past the mid point with balls and powder. During the confusion many a gun was loaded over and over again without a ball leaving the barrel. At Gettysburg one was found with 21 balls and charges in the same barrel. I suppose it was easy to get excited and so noisy you couldn't hear your own gun fire. They found thousands of guns with multiple charges and balls in them, totally unfireable, yet still being charged and capped and shot, thinking they were shooting and fighting. Pure HELL. best wishes, ray

tyc · 03-01-2011, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by imray

... During the confusion many a gun was loaded over and over again without a ball leaving the barrel. ... Pure HELL.

I've heard of that before and your assessment of "Pure HELL" is accurate.

tyc

Hawg · 03-25-2011, 12:25 PM

Pietta revolvers made before 2000 were sometimes not up to par but many were. Pietta's made in 2000 and later are very good quality, rivaling or exceeding Uberti. Swapping cylinders in a reenactment would be ok but it wasn't done in the old days. Cavalrymen during the war especially Southerners carried up to eight revolvers. When one was emptied it was either holstered or discarded to be retrieved or replaced later. I'm of the discard and retrieve mindset. I don't think many would be wanting to be fumbling around trying to find a holster while on a galloping horse and under fire, let alone trying to swap cylinders under the same conditions.

remington1990 · 03-26-2011, 12:37 AM

I finally got me a bp revolver I got the 1858 remington army from cabelas it was the best priced pistol I could find I like the spiller and burr it it was a lot higher I rather had brass frame any how.

Hawg · 03-26-2011, 07:23 AM

With that brass frame you're going to be limited to about 20 grain charges from a .44 More than that will batter and stretch the frame.

02-22-2011, 03:54 PM	#1
remington1990 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 290	bp revolvers ???? I am looking at either a 1858 army or a 1860 army I like the looks of the 1860 army but the. 1858 army has the top strap so I can take the cylinder with having to take the gun apart. And what's everybody views on changing the cylinder in a civil war reenactment on the field. And what everybody views on pietta revolver thanks -->

02-23-2011, 02:03 AM	#2
Pustic V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Western Kentucky Posts: 149	Re: bp revolvers ???? I own five 1858 Remingtons and no Colts. Go with the Remington. You can also convert the .44 to a .45 Long Colt just by switching the cylinder. __________________ No matter what they say or do, I will never surrender my guns. Am I paranoid? Nope, I'm heavily armed. Last edited by Pustic; 03-26-2011 at 10:15 PM.. Reason: adding more info.

02-23-2011, 07:57 AM	#3
hunter29180 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: in a motorhome where ever we park! Contributor Posts: 1,627	Re: bp revolvers ???? many civil war shooters carry extra cylinders. on the battle field 10 sec reloads were the diffrence between living and "pushing" daisys. i had a old picture of 2 union sharpshooters cleaning their pistols and rifles. they each had 7-8 cylinders on the camp table for the pistols.

02-23-2011, 10:53 AM	#6
remington1990 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 290	Re: bp revolvers ???? I think I will go with the remington because I some people told me that changing the cylinder wasn't done as much as they do it in the reenactments but they said it was done some. Thanks

02-28-2011, 03:01 PM	#7
imray Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 12	Re: bp revolvers ???? after the battles, the soldiers that were still alive and in fighting condition for the next battle would scavenge the battlefield of the dead and take any cylinders or guns that might help them in the next battle. At the beginning of the battle they may have 3 or 4 handguns stuck in their belts along with as many charged cylinders that would easily change out like the new army cyl. and just toss them aside as the fight progressed. If they survived they could come back later perhaps and pick up more replacements for the next fight. After many battles they found barrels stuffed past the mid point with balls and powder. During the confusion many a gun was loaded over and over again without a ball leaving the barrel. At Gettysburg one was found with 21 balls and charges in the same barrel. I suppose it was easy to get excited and so noisy you couldn't hear your own gun fire. They found thousands of guns with multiple charges and balls in them, totally unfireable, yet still being charged and capped and shot, thinking they were shooting and fighting. Pure HELL. best wishes, ray

03-25-2011, 12:25 PM	#9
Hawg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,558	Re: bp revolvers ???? Pietta revolvers made before 2000 were sometimes not up to par but many were. Pietta's made in 2000 and later are very good quality, rivaling or exceeding Uberti. Swapping cylinders in a reenactment would be ok but it wasn't done in the old days. Cavalrymen during the war especially Southerners carried up to eight revolvers. When one was emptied it was either holstered or discarded to be retrieved or replaced later. I'm of the discard and retrieve mindset. I don't think many would be wanting to be fumbling around trying to find a holster while on a galloping horse and under fire, let alone trying to swap cylinders under the same conditions.

03-26-2011, 12:37 AM	#10
remington1990 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 290	Re: bp revolvers ???? I finally got me a bp revolver I got the 1858 remington army from cabelas it was the best priced pistol I could find I like the spiller and burr it it was a lot higher I rather had brass frame any how.

03-26-2011, 07:23 AM	#11
Hawg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,558	Re: bp revolvers ???? With that brass frame you're going to be limited to about 20 grain charges from a .44 More than that will batter and stretch the frame.