Need info help please - The Firearms Forum

JUNKKING · 11-13-2011, 03:47 PM

Some time ago I got this gun in a lot deal from a guy at a flea market. I have never shot the gun nor do I know much about BP guns. I was wondering if there is a market for them as the inlines have seemed to have taken over the hunting world around here in PA.

The best I can come up with from the marking on the barrel is that it is a Thompson Center Arms 50 cal. Hawkins. The only one I could find online marked as such is the model 5043 which looks identical to the gun I have so I think that is what I have here.

I am interested in selling this gun. All if the advertisements I have seen for it say that the gun sold close to 900 new is this correct? It does have a few scratches on it nothing serious, The barrel seems to be in great shape from what I can see but like I said I know nothing about BP guns.

I know this isn't the correct place to post this but did so as you guys on this part of the forum are here for a reason which is you are into BP guns.

The pictures I have attached are not the best quality and better pics are available on request. I played around with MP and size as some of my pictures I have posted in the past were too big. These turned out too small. I will get it someday.

I am not expecting to get alot of money for the gun. But could someone give me a ball park figure what it would be worth. I am thinking that the price I would want would be nowhere close to what the gun is worth. Please feel free to message me or PM me with any questions or interest in this gun. Thanks, JUNK

JUNKKING · 11-13-2011, 03:48 PM

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Hawg · 11-13-2011, 03:58 PM

300 would be about all you could get for it.

Oneida Steve · 11-13-2011, 03:58 PM

In-lines have killed the market for traditional BP rifles. Based on what I've seen at recent gun shows, you would do well if you got $250 for your rifle. Sorry.

T/C makes top-quality guns, but I don't believe your rifle sold for almost $900 when new.

JUNKKING · 11-13-2011, 04:16 PM

That is about all I was thinking too. Thanks for the information.

Pagrizz · 11-13-2011, 04:28 PM

I would be interested in it.Contact me at bobsmaineconnection@netzero.com

rdstrain49 · 11-13-2011, 05:04 PM

Locally, Rapid City SD, the TCs sell between $225 & $350 depending on condition. Percussion or flint ignition doesn't seem to matter.

Buffalochip · 11-13-2011, 08:39 PM

I saw a used flintlock at the Gander Mountain in Johnstown PA this summer that was priced at $799. At that price, I suspect it is still there. I'd say anything above $300 is a good price.

Hawg · 11-13-2011, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffalochip

I saw a used flintlock at the Gander Mountain in Johnstown PA this summer that was priced at $799. At that price, I suspect it is still there. I'd say anything above $300 is a good price.

For a TC? They oughta know better.

JUNKKING · 11-14-2011, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Oneida Steve

In-lines have killed the market for traditional BP rifles. Based on what I've seen at recent gun shows, you would do well if you got $250 for your rifle. Sorry.

T/C makes top-quality guns, but I don't believe your rifle sold for almost $900 when new.

I didnt think so either until I seen this http://www.nextag.com/thompson-cente...le/stores-html

http://stores.nextag.com/store/48575...er-5043-Hawken

Hawg · 11-14-2011, 06:47 AM

That's not even a new gun. TC doesn't make traditional guns anymore. Check the prices on some of the online auctions. See what they actually sold for, not asking prices.

Buffalochip · 11-14-2011, 06:37 PM

It's a damn shame that muzzleloading firearm seasons are now essentially single-shot rifle seasons. There is NO tradition, and little added challenge to shotgun only hunting areas. If you can't hit the boiler room of a deer with one shot from a percussion rifle, you have no business being in the woods. What's next-rocket propelled arrows (RPAs).

Sorry, I know I'm off subject, but IMHO muzzleloading seasons are a revenue-generating joke.

JUNKKING · 11-15-2011, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawg

That's not even a new gun. TC doesn't make traditional guns anymore. Check the prices on some of the online auctions. See what they actually sold for, not asking prices.

They do still make and sell the traditional rifles. Buds has it now for 713.... Not saying how many he is selling but my point was it was an expensive gun when hew. I didnt get it new it came in a lot deal I made awhile ago. If I cant get 250 to 300 for it it isnt the gun its the market. I would just rather give it away on one of the monthly drawings. I can just about guarantee those that bash will have their name on that list.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/17487

todd51 · 11-15-2011, 08:18 AM

Junk, I have always admired the TC Hawkin. What little black powder shooting I do leans more to the traditional side. I don't particularly care for the new inline units but I do realize their practicality when it comes to hunting. That is a quality piece and all it will take is the right person that wants to use the more traditional black powder rifles and a sale can be made. I am not in the market for one but you can bet I wouldn't pass up a drawing on that fine example. Good luck finding the right person that wants a fine shooting rifle.

11-13-2011, 03:47 PM	#1
JUNKKING Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Just East of Pittsburgh PA Contributor Posts: 1,759	Need info help please Some time ago I got this gun in a lot deal from a guy at a flea market. I have never shot the gun nor do I know much about BP guns. I was wondering if there is a market for them as the inlines have seemed to have taken over the hunting world around here in PA. The best I can come up with from the marking on the barrel is that it is a Thompson Center Arms 50 cal. Hawkins. The only one I could find online marked as such is the model 5043 which looks identical to the gun I have so I think that is what I have here. I am interested in selling this gun. All if the advertisements I have seen for it say that the gun sold close to 900 new is this correct? It does have a few scratches on it nothing serious, The barrel seems to be in great shape from what I can see but like I said I know nothing about BP guns. I know this isn't the correct place to post this but did so as you guys on this part of the forum are here for a reason which is you are into BP guns. The pictures I have attached are not the best quality and better pics are available on request. I played around with MP and size as some of my pictures I have posted in the past were too big. These turned out too small. I will get it someday. I am not expecting to get alot of money for the gun. But could someone give me a ball park figure what it would be worth. I am thinking that the price I would want would be nowhere close to what the gun is worth. Please feel free to message me or PM me with any questions or interest in this gun. Thanks, JUNK Attached Images __________________ Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and again! -->

11-13-2011, 03:48 PM	#2
JUNKKING Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Just East of Pittsburgh PA Contributor Posts: 1,759	Re: Need info help please More pics Attached Images __________________ Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and again!

11-13-2011, 03:58 PM	#3
Hawg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,554	Re: Need info help please 300 would be about all you could get for it.

11-13-2011, 03:58 PM	#4
Oneida Steve Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 1,028	Re: Need info help please In-lines have killed the market for traditional BP rifles. Based on what I've seen at recent gun shows, you would do well if you got $250 for your rifle. Sorry. T/C makes top-quality guns, but I don't believe your rifle sold for almost $900 when new.

11-13-2011, 04:16 PM	#5
JUNKKING Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Just East of Pittsburgh PA Contributor Posts: 1,759	Re: Need info help please That is about all I was thinking too. Thanks for the information. __________________ Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and again!

11-13-2011, 04:28 PM	#6
Pagrizz Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Pa/Maine Posts: 44	Re: Need info help please I would be interested in it.Contact me at bobsmaineconnection@netzero.com

11-13-2011, 05:04 PM	#7
rdstrain49 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 44	Re: Need info help please Locally, Rapid City SD, the TCs sell between $225 & $350 depending on condition. Percussion or flint ignition doesn't seem to matter.

11-13-2011, 08:39 PM	#8
Buffalochip Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 754	Re: Need info help please I saw a used flintlock at the Gander Mountain in Johnstown PA this summer that was priced at $799. At that price, I suspect it is still there. I'd say anything above $300 is a good price.

11-14-2011, 06:47 AM	#11
Hawg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,554	Re: Need info help please That's not even a new gun. TC doesn't make traditional guns anymore. Check the prices on some of the online auctions. See what they actually sold for, not asking prices. Last edited by Hawg; 11-14-2011 at 06:49 AM..

11-14-2011, 06:37 PM	#12
Buffalochip Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 754	Re: Need info help please It's a damn shame that muzzleloading firearm seasons are now essentially single-shot rifle seasons. There is NO tradition, and little added challenge to shotgun only hunting areas. If you can't hit the boiler room of a deer with one shot from a percussion rifle, you have no business being in the woods. What's next-rocket propelled arrows (RPAs). Sorry, I know I'm off subject, but IMHO muzzleloading seasons are a revenue-generating joke.

11-15-2011, 08:18 AM	#14
todd51 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central, Ohio Contributor Posts: 2,571	Re: Need info help please Junk, I have always admired the TC Hawkin. What little black powder shooting I do leans more to the traditional side. I don't particularly care for the new inline units but I do realize their practicality when it comes to hunting. That is a quality piece and all it will take is the right person that wants to use the more traditional black powder rifles and a sale can be made. I am not in the market for one but you can bet I wouldn't pass up a drawing on that fine example. Good luck finding the right person that wants a fine shooting rifle. __________________ Retired Praefectus Vigilum NRA Endowment Member