Ban on squirtguns and capguns!

TheGunClinger · 02-08-2011, 04:58 PM

I heard in the news today that some dimwit Dem. in Hawaii is pushing a new bill that outlaws the sale of capguns and squirtguns to anyone under the age of 18. This stuff is getting wayyy out of hand. Imagine selling a super soaker to some kid and you pay a $2000 fine and jail time. WTH!

millwright · 02-08-2011, 05:30 PM

Now all that's needed is a ban on all the other guns in society !

Let's start with those cathode ray tubes in older TV's.......X-ray machines in dentists' and doctor's offices......air/gas nailers, pump spray bottles for everything from lime cleaners to perfume.....aerosol cans/bottles.....fuel injectors.....ad infinitum.......!!

IOW, these toys are being targeted for "PC" reasons, not any demonstrable harm to society ! >MW

tech16024 · 02-08-2011, 05:38 PM

Some peoples children....

Double D · 02-08-2011, 05:39 PM

There are more child deaths caused by bathtubs than by firearms. Outlaw bathtubs now!

CampingJosh · 02-08-2011, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double D

There are more child deaths caused by bathtubs than by firearms. Outlaw bathtubs now!

Bathtubs don't make loud, scary noises.

shorter260513 · 02-08-2011, 07:28 PM

be carefull some moron will link a number of unexplained drowning deaths to the malicious use of a supersoaker and just forget about those oversized water tanks

tech16024 · 02-08-2011, 07:51 PM

$%#%$%#$^%^%&^%& now I gotta put a silencer on my squirt gun?!?!? lol

JohnTheCalifornian · 02-08-2011, 08:01 PM

Those evil caulking guns are next on their hit list..........

Bobitis · 02-08-2011, 08:02 PM

If ya can't find a birth certificate, how do they know how old ya are?

glens67 · 02-08-2011, 08:19 PM

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
H.B. NO.
432

TWENTY-SIXTH LEGISLATURE, 2011

STATE OF HAWAII
A BILL FOR AN ACT

relating to toy guns.

BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF HAWAII:

SECTION 1. Chapter 709, Hawaii Revised Statutes, is amended by adding a new section to be appropriately designated and to read as follows:

"§709- Sale of toy guns to minors prohibited. (1) It shall be unlawful to sell, attempt to sell, or offer for sale a toy gun to a minor under eighteen years of age; provided that it shall be an affirmative defense to any prosecution that the:

(a) Purchaser falsely represented the purchaser's age by producing a driver's license bearing a photograph of the licensee, a state identification card, or similar card purporting to be a valid identification card indicating that the purchaser was eighteen years of age or older;

(b) Appearance of the purchaser was such that an ordinary prudent person would believe the purchaser to be eighteen years of age or older; and

(c) Sale was made in good faith relying upon the indicators of age in paragraphs (a) and (b).

(2) Any person who violates this section shall be subject to a fine of not more than $2,000, imprisonment of not more than ninety days, or both."

SECTION 2. This Act does not affect rights and duties that matured, penalties that were incurred, and proceedings that were begun before its effective date.

SECTION 3. New statutory material is underscored.

SECTION 4. This Act shall take effect upon its approval.

INTRODUCED BY:
_____________________________

Report Title:

Sale of Toy Guns; Minors; Prohibition; Penalty

Description:

Prohibits the sale of toy guns to minors.

If state Representative Scott Saiki (pronounced "psyche") has his way, anyone who intentionally sells a squirt gun to anyone under the age of 18 could face penalties of 90 days in jail and/or a fine of up to $2000.

He’s the democratic pro-smoking ban, pro-union, pro-tax increase state rep from the Moiliili, McCully, Kaimuki district. Or, as Twitter reveals, oenophile, teacher, father of two boys and professional fly fishing guide

Oenophilia. No, not a social disease. It's the sensual orientation towards the pleasures of fine food and wine.

Glen
As my mom always said "I'm lucky that abortion is not retroactive"

Rocketman1 · 02-08-2011, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glens67

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
H.B. NO.
432

TWENTY-SIXTH LEGISLATURE, 2011

STATE OF HAWAII
A BILL FOR AN ACT

relating to toy guns.

BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF HAWAII:

SECTION 1. Chapter 709, Hawaii Revised Statutes, is amended by adding a new section to be appropriately designated and to read as follows:

"§709- Sale of toy guns to minors prohibited. (1) It shall be unlawful to sell, attempt to sell, or offer for sale a toy gun to a minor under eighteen years of age; provided that it shall be an affirmative defense to any prosecution that the:

Ok, when thi swas first posted, I didn't believe it. Now I have to pick my jaw up off the ground.

What is wrong with our country?

Whats next?

jim summers · 02-08-2011, 09:20 PM

So if you are 18 can you buy a cap gun/squirt gun for a kid and give it to them or will you be fined for the illegal transfer of the gun.

Will there be a waiting period for the purchase of such a weapon?

Will it have to be secured in some type of weapons storage, so that it will be safe from kids living in the home or kids who might be visiting the home.

Will it have to be registered with your local law enforcement ?

Will you have to have a carry permit if you take in anywhere with you. These questions are almost as stupid as the person who is pushing such a law.

dons2346 · 02-08-2011, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobitis

If ya can't find a birth certificate, how do they know how old ya are?

Good point

grcsat · 02-08-2011, 11:01 PM

Don't know very many eighteen year olds that would by a water pistol for themselves.

What is the world coming to ?

CampingJosh · 02-08-2011, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grcsat

Don't know very many eighteen year olds that would by a water pistol for themselves.

What is the world coming to ?

I don't know very many eighteen year olds who would buy a water pistol for themselves... until they were in a large group.

Those things (and the big three-person slingshots for water balloons) played a huge role in my college years.

redwing carson · 02-08-2011, 11:55 PM

Buying the water gun will be easy. His new Bill I812 bans ownership of water to any one under 21 years of age.

RC

TheGunClinger · 02-09-2011, 06:17 AM

How old will they have to be to buy ammo (caps, water etc.)??

Ken W · 02-09-2011, 08:27 AM

This has got to be one of the most retarded things I have ever heard.............recently. Well, there is this new piece of legislation in Malawi, a small landlocked country in southeast Africa, that would ban.....wait for it.....................public farting. http://www.mg.co.za/article/2011-02-...ublic-farting/
It's official, the world has gone completely insane.

lentz · 02-21-2011, 09:46 AM

What if your child finds the water gun while your at work and accidentally shoots himself or his playmate.S**t will hit the fan then!

Juker · 02-21-2011, 10:33 AM

I'd like to see a ban on stupidity.

carver · 02-21-2011, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juker

I'd like to see a ban on stupidity.

Man you got that right! Ban stupidity, then fine the hell out of them every time they say, or do, something stupid! I just solved our debt crisis!!!!!

Juker · 02-21-2011, 11:50 AM

Now if we could just get a Loot For Liberals program going, similar to Cash for Clunkers, we could make some real progress!

carver · 02-21-2011, 12:07 PM

Great minds think alike!

TheGunClinger · 02-21-2011, 06:51 PM

Sorry guys, you just cant fix stupid! The demo's will be here for a long time. Unless we come up with a new bill outlawing Stupe, but then there is the problem of a veto from the top stupe.

This has got to be one of the most retarded things I have ever heard.............recently. Well, there is this new piece of legislation in Malawi, a small landlocked country in southeast Africa, that would ban.....wait for it.....................public farting. http://www.mg.co.za/article/2011-02-...ublic-farting/
It's official, the world has gone completely insane.

Ken W, If they passed that here, I would get the death sentence!

fleetwood1976 · 02-22-2011, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CampingJosh

Bathtubs don't make loud, scary noises.

that depends on who is in them.

02-08-2011, 04:58 PM	#1
TheGunClinger Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SW Florida Contributor Posts: 2,378	Ban on squirtguns and capguns! I heard in the news today that some dimwit Dem. in Hawaii is pushing a new bill that outlaws the sale of capguns and squirtguns to anyone under the age of 18. This stuff is getting wayyy out of hand. Imagine selling a super soaker to some kid and you pay a $2000 fine and jail time. WTH! __________________ New England Patriots Rule Next year. -->

02-08-2011, 05:30 PM	#2
millwright Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,435	Re: Ban on squirtguns and capguns! Now all that's needed is a ban on all the other guns in society ! Let's start with those cathode ray tubes in older TV's.......X-ray machines in dentists' and doctor's offices......air/gas nailers, pump spray bottles for everything from lime cleaners to perfume.....aerosol cans/bottles.....fuel injectors.....ad infinitum.......!! IOW, these toys are being targeted for "PC" reasons, not any demonstrable harm to society ! >MW

02-08-2011, 05:38 PM	#3
tech16024 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 93	Re: Ban on squirtguns and capguns! Some peoples children....

02-08-2011, 05:39 PM	#4
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,054	Re: Ban on squirtguns and capguns! There are more child deaths caused by bathtubs than by firearms. Outlaw bathtubs now! __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder.

02-08-2011, 07:28 PM	#6
shorter260513 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 262	Re: Ban on squirtguns and capguns! be carefull some moron will link a number of unexplained drowning deaths to the malicious use of a supersoaker and just forget about those oversized water tanks

02-08-2011, 07:51 PM	#7
tech16024 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 93	Re: Ban on squirtguns and capguns! $%#%$%#$^%^%&^%& now I gotta put a silencer on my squirt gun?!?!? lol

02-08-2011, 08:01 PM	#8
JohnTheCalifornian V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bakersfield Posts: 431	Re: Ban on squirtguns and capguns! Those evil caulking guns are next on their hit list.......... __________________ Im not a complete idiot.... parts are missing

02-08-2011, 08:02 PM	#9
Bobitis Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,612	Re: Ban on squirtguns and capguns! If ya can't find a birth certificate, how do they know how old ya are?

02-08-2011, 08:19 PM	#10
glens67 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Middleton, ID Contributor Posts: 951	Can you say STUPID!!! HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES H.B. NO. 432 TWENTY-SIXTH LEGISLATURE, 2011 STATE OF HAWAII A BILL FOR AN ACT relating to toy guns. BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF HAWAII: SECTION 1. Chapter 709, Hawaii Revised Statutes, is amended by adding a new section to be appropriately designated and to read as follows: "§709- Sale of toy guns to minors prohibited. (1) It shall be unlawful to sell, attempt to sell, or offer for sale a toy gun to a minor under eighteen years of age; provided that it shall be an affirmative defense to any prosecution that the: (a) Purchaser falsely represented the purchaser's age by producing a driver's license bearing a photograph of the licensee, a state identification card, or similar card purporting to be a valid identification card indicating that the purchaser was eighteen years of age or older; (b) Appearance of the purchaser was such that an ordinary prudent person would believe the purchaser to be eighteen years of age or older; and (c) Sale was made in good faith relying upon the indicators of age in paragraphs (a) and (b). (2) Any person who violates this section shall be subject to a fine of not more than $2,000, imprisonment of not more than ninety days, or both." SECTION 2. This Act does not affect rights and duties that matured, penalties that were incurred, and proceedings that were begun before its effective date. SECTION 3. New statutory material is underscored. SECTION 4. This Act shall take effect upon its approval. INTRODUCED BY: _____________________________ Report Title: Sale of Toy Guns; Minors; Prohibition; Penalty Description: Prohibits the sale of toy guns to minors. If state Representative Scott Saiki (pronounced "psyche") has his way, anyone who intentionally sells a squirt gun to anyone under the age of 18 could face penalties of 90 days in jail and/or a fine of up to $2000. He’s the democratic pro-smoking ban, pro-union, pro-tax increase state rep from the Moiliili, McCully, Kaimuki district. Or, as Twitter reveals, oenophile, teacher, father of two boys and professional fly fishing guide Oenophilia. No, not a social disease. It's the sensual orientation towards the pleasures of fine food and wine. Glen As my mom always said "I'm lucky that abortion is not retroactive"

02-08-2011, 09:20 PM	#12
jim summers Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: I reside in southern Indiana, you can almost step out of my back door and be setting on Patoka Lake Posts: 1,056	Re: Ban on squirtguns and capguns! So if you are 18 can you buy a cap gun/squirt gun for a kid and give it to them or will you be fined for the illegal transfer of the gun. Will there be a waiting period for the purchase of such a weapon? Will it have to be secured in some type of weapons storage, so that it will be safe from kids living in the home or kids who might be visiting the home. Will it have to be registered with your local law enforcement ? Will you have to have a carry permit if you take in anywhere with you. These questions are almost as stupid as the person who is pushing such a law. __________________ To Whom Much Is Given, Much Is Required.

02-08-2011, 11:01 PM	#14
grcsat V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: far,far,North Posts: 377	Re: Ban on squirtguns and capguns! Don't know very many eighteen year olds that would by a water pistol for themselves. What is the world coming to ?

02-08-2011, 11:55 PM	#16
redwing carson Former Guest Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: western wyoming Posts: 734	Re: Ban on squirtguns and capguns! Buying the water gun will be easy. His new Bill I812 bans ownership of water to any one under 21 years of age. RC

02-09-2011, 06:17 AM	#17
TheGunClinger Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SW Florida Contributor Posts: 2,378	Re: Ban on squirtguns and capguns! How old will they have to be to buy ammo (caps, water etc.)?? __________________ New England Patriots Rule Next year.

02-09-2011, 08:27 AM	#18
Ken W V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 346	Re: Ban on squirtguns and capguns! This has got to be one of the most retarded things I have ever heard.............recently. Well, there is this new piece of legislation in Malawi, a small landlocked country in southeast Africa, that would ban.....wait for it.....................public farting. http://www.mg.co.za/article/2011-02-...ublic-farting/ It's official, the world has gone completely insane.

02-21-2011, 09:46 AM	#19
lentz Former Guest Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 606	Re: Ban on squirtguns and capguns! What if your child finds the water gun while your at work and accidentally shoots himself or his playmate.S**t will hit the fan then!

02-21-2011, 10:33 AM	#20
Juker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Land of Lincoln Contributor Posts: 2,872	Re: Ban on squirtguns and capguns! I'd like to see a ban on stupidity. __________________ SHOOT FIRST. SHOOT SECOND. MOST IMPORTANTLY, BE THE MAN WHO'S SHOOTING LAST.

02-21-2011, 11:50 AM	#22
Juker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Land of Lincoln Contributor Posts: 2,872	Re: Ban on squirtguns and capguns! Now if we could just get a Loot For Liberals program going, similar to Cash for Clunkers, we could make some real progress! __________________ SHOOT FIRST. SHOOT SECOND. MOST IMPORTANTLY, BE THE MAN WHO'S SHOOTING LAST.

02-21-2011, 12:07 PM	#23
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,219	Re: Ban on squirtguns and capguns! Great minds think alike! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

02-21-2011, 06:51 PM	#24
TheGunClinger Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SW Florida Contributor Posts: 2,378	Re: Ban on squirtguns and capguns! Sorry guys, you just cant fix stupid! The demo's will be here for a long time. Unless we come up with a new bill outlawing Stupe, but then there is the problem of a veto from the top stupe. This has got to be one of the most retarded things I have ever heard.............recently. Well, there is this new piece of legislation in Malawi, a small landlocked country in southeast Africa, that would ban.....wait for it.....................public farting. http://www.mg.co.za/article/2011-02-...ublic-farting/ It's official, the world has gone completely insane. Ken W, If they passed that here, I would get the death sentence! __________________ New England Patriots Rule Next year.