Lyman 1858 info? - The Firearms Forum

1858lyman36 · 02-20-2011, 10:01 AM

HI All, I was digging around and found your Forum, it looks informative and friendly, so I signed up. I've got a .36 cal Lyman model 1858 Remington (looks like it was made by Uberti) and really like shooting BP. I've read a lot of the posts in here and have learned much and I found the Uberti Cap & Ball Instruction Manual, also very helpful thank you very much! I'd like to find more info on the Lyman products, like when they were made, what all the stampings mean, how's the quality compared to others, might there be any reviews published of them, etc..
Thanks

BlackPowderSmoke · 02-20-2011, 09:21 PM

Lyman imports were made by Uberti and ASP. The 1858 Remingtons were made my Uberti. More info on Lymans. You can verify this by the Uberti stamp on the right side of the barrel which is a u surrounded by an octogon outline.
The year stamp is on the irght side of the revolver just above the top of the trigger guard. for quick reference, here is a chart of the year codes.

I own two New Armies and am well pleased with them. The Lyman 58s are excellent quality, old fashoined Uberti quality with one exception:
Does yours have a pawl ring around the cylinder? Every one of the Lyman Remmies I have ever seen that had been fired or cycled did. Easy to fix, but once the damage is done, it's done. It will be there until you refinish the cylinder. My thing is the plain steel look so it don't really matter. I have removed the blue on one and plan to do the other. After removing the blue the pawl ring was still there, the bolt spring had to be worked on a bit to fix the problem. After sanding the pawl sanding off after fixing the problem, the plain steel revolver looks pretty sweet.

1858lyman36 · 02-21-2011, 08:14 AM

FANTASTIC! Thanks for all the info!! Looks like I've got a 1970 vintage, with a XX7 stamp on the frame; Uberti mark on the left side of the barrel, with 2 star stamps, what looks like a coat of arms and PN stamped on the right side of the barrel and the frame. It's got a very light cylinder ring (not even all the way around) not enough to bother me and not nearly as bad as S&W's. I know it had been shot prior to me and I've put a couple hundred rounds through it too.
Thanks again for the info.

BlackPowderSmoke · 02-21-2011, 10:04 AM

My apologies for the typo in the chart. I had 1970 entered twice, in the proper place and in the slot for 1971. It is corrected. Yours is a 1971 model, as well as one of mine.

BlackPowderSmoke · 02-21-2011, 10:08 AM

You should be able to back of the bolt spring screw an 1/8 or 1/4 turn or so to prevent any further damage, but you may want to work the bolt to fully eliminate the problem.

1858lyman36 · 02-21-2011, 10:26 AM

Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out!

02-20-2011, 10:01 AM	#1
1858lyman36 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3	Lyman 1858 info? HI All, I was digging around and found your Forum, it looks informative and friendly, so I signed up. I've got a .36 cal Lyman model 1858 Remington (looks like it was made by Uberti) and really like shooting BP. I've read a lot of the posts in here and have learned much and I found the Uberti Cap & Ball Instruction Manual, also very helpful thank you very much! I'd like to find more info on the Lyman products, like when they were made, what all the stampings mean, how's the quality compared to others, might there be any reviews published of them, etc.. Thanks -->

02-20-2011, 09:21 PM	#2
BlackPowderSmoke Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: North Carolina Posts: 6	Re: Lyman 1858 info? Lyman imports were made by Uberti and ASP. The 1858 Remingtons were made my Uberti. More info on Lymans. You can verify this by the Uberti stamp on the right side of the barrel which is a u surrounded by an octogon outline. The year stamp is on the irght side of the revolver just above the top of the trigger guard. for quick reference, here is a chart of the year codes. I own two New Armies and am well pleased with them. The Lyman 58s are excellent quality, old fashoined Uberti quality with one exception: Does yours have a pawl ring around the cylinder? Every one of the Lyman Remmies I have ever seen that had been fired or cycled did. Easy to fix, but once the damage is done, it's done. It will be there until you refinish the cylinder. My thing is the plain steel look so it don't really matter. I have removed the blue on one and plan to do the other. After removing the blue the pawl ring was still there, the bolt spring had to be worked on a bit to fix the problem. After sanding the pawl sanding off after fixing the problem, the plain steel revolver looks pretty sweet. __________________ For a Complete Directory of Black Powder Specialty Forums, Please Visit BlackPowderSmoke.com Last edited by BlackPowderSmoke; 02-20-2011 at 10:03 PM..

02-21-2011, 08:14 AM	#3
1858lyman36 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3	Re: Lyman 1858 info? FANTASTIC! Thanks for all the info!! Looks like I've got a 1970 vintage, with a XX7 stamp on the frame; Uberti mark on the left side of the barrel, with 2 star stamps, what looks like a coat of arms and PN stamped on the right side of the barrel and the frame. It's got a very light cylinder ring (not even all the way around) not enough to bother me and not nearly as bad as S&W's. I know it had been shot prior to me and I've put a couple hundred rounds through it too. Thanks again for the info.

02-21-2011, 10:04 AM	#4
BlackPowderSmoke Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: North Carolina Posts: 6	Re: Lyman 1858 info? My apologies for the typo in the chart. I had 1970 entered twice, in the proper place and in the slot for 1971. It is corrected. Yours is a 1971 model, as well as one of mine. __________________ For a Complete Directory of Black Powder Specialty Forums, Please Visit BlackPowderSmoke.com Last edited by BlackPowderSmoke; 02-21-2011 at 10:06 AM..

02-21-2011, 10:08 AM	#5
BlackPowderSmoke Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: North Carolina Posts: 6	Re: Lyman 1858 info? You should be able to back of the bolt spring screw an 1/8 or 1/4 turn or so to prevent any further damage, but you may want to work the bolt to fully eliminate the problem. __________________ For a Complete Directory of Black Powder Specialty Forums, Please Visit BlackPowderSmoke.com Last edited by BlackPowderSmoke; 02-21-2011 at 05:11 PM.. Reason: typo correction

02-21-2011, 10:26 AM	#6
1858lyman36 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3	Re: Lyman 1858 info? Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out!