Two Japanese Type 99 Arisaka Rifles. Value estimate needed. - The Firearms Forum

MulishaSoldier829 · 03-08-2011, 10:36 PM

Rifle 1
Japanese Arisaka Bolt-Action Rifle
Type: 99
Series: 25
Calibre: 7.7x58mm
Serial #: 17665
Markings: In Tact (Chrysanthemum + Kana inscription)
Manufacturer: Kokura Arsenal
Country: Japan
Production Date: 1939-1945
Other: Anti-Aircraft rear sight, missing cleaning rod, all original parts, wood scratched throughout.
Rifle 2
Japanese Arisaka Bolt-Action Rifle
Type: 99
Series: 25
Calibre: 7.7x58mm
Serial #: 51268
Markings: Ground Off (surrendered “last ditch” Chrysanthemum w/out Kana inscription)
Manufacturer: Kokura Arsenal
Country: Japan
Production Date: 1939-1945
Other: Plain iron sights, all original parts, wood scratched throughout.

old semperfi · 03-08-2011, 11:34 PM

sorry,to say but there arent much value in these jap guns,there were thousands of them sent over since wwll.actually need pictures but not worth over two hundred each old semperfi

Buffalochip · 03-09-2011, 06:43 AM

You need to send pictures, Ols Semperfi is right, there were thousands brought back and ammo is next to impossible to find--but collector interest IS starting to grow and prices are going up. The last ditch gun is worth less, but, depending on condition, the first gun you describe can bring upwards of $400 with intact mums, matching numbers. An original monopod (most are missing) just sold on ebay for more than $150--so collector interest is growing. You need to post pictures and check for matching numbers. You can sometimes find cleaning rods on ebay--I don't believe they are numbered.

woolleyworm · 03-09-2011, 07:09 AM

Pics of the receiver, safety, mum marks and the bolt handle would be nice if you can post them. With only the info provided, I'd agree with OldSF, around the 175-250 range between the two.

polishshooter · 03-09-2011, 08:02 AM

And give us the series marking and number on the sides of the receiver as well, that speaks volumes, and might narrow your production date down some.

The other thing is show or talk to us about the bolt handles, the safety knob, sights, buttplate, cleaning rod(s), all can tell us a lot more about the rifle.

The Type 99 probably underwent more changes in it's relatively short lifetime than any other contemporary military rifle, while they made about 2.5 million of them in that time frame, there are so many differences it is sometimes difficult to see two that are EXACTLY alike which adds a little fun to collecting them.

And they are definitely escalating in price to collectors, a FAR cry from even 20 years ago when it was not uncommon to find them available for $20-$25

GOSH I wish I knew then what I know NOW, but then again, that's the story not only of MY life but many others too!

MulishaSoldier829 · 03-09-2011, 04:05 PM

Thanks for the input everyone. I will post the pictures you have asked for later today.

wonderwhippet · 03-09-2011, 06:15 PM

Arisaka rifles with ground Mums sell for approximately $175. Add about $50 for an intact Mum. These are general prices for average condition.

MulishaSoldier829 · 03-09-2011, 10:06 PM

Finally finished taking and uploading the photos of both rifles. Any info would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
Rifle photos: http://http://community.webshots.com/user/MulishaSoldier829

Buffalochip · 03-10-2011, 07:34 PM

The rifle with the ground mum is late production--roughly made, fixed peep sight, wood butt plate--commonly referred to as a "last ditch" rifle. The other with intact mum is also late war. It is missing the wings from the aircraft sight. These are the short rifles--both are in pretty rough shape and are probably in the $100-$125 dollar range. If you can post pictures of the serial number, it should be possible to determine who manufactured it and the series.

03-08-2011, 10:36 PM	#1
MulishaSoldier829 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3	Two Japanese Type 99 Arisaka Rifles. Value estimate needed. Rifle 1 Japanese Arisaka Bolt-Action Rifle Type: 99 Series: 25 Calibre: 7.7x58mm Serial #: 17665 Markings: In Tact (Chrysanthemum + Kana inscription) Manufacturer: Kokura Arsenal Country: Japan Production Date: 1939-1945 Other: Anti-Aircraft rear sight, missing cleaning rod, all original parts, wood scratched throughout. Rifle 2 Japanese Arisaka Bolt-Action Rifle Type: 99 Series: 25 Calibre: 7.7x58mm Serial #: 51268 Markings: Ground Off (surrendered “last ditch” Chrysanthemum w/out Kana inscription) Manufacturer: Kokura Arsenal Country: Japan Production Date: 1939-1945 Other: Plain iron sights, all original parts, wood scratched throughout. -->

03-08-2011, 11:34 PM	#2
old semperfi Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: i live in southern indiana,old country boy at heart Posts: 1,506	Re: Two Japanese Type 99 Arisaka Rifles. Value estimate needed. sorry,to say but there arent much value in these jap guns,there were thousands of them sent over since wwll.actually need pictures but not worth over two hundred each old semperfi

03-09-2011, 06:43 AM	#3
Buffalochip Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 754	Re: Two Japanese Type 99 Arisaka Rifles. Value estimate needed. You need to send pictures, Ols Semperfi is right, there were thousands brought back and ammo is next to impossible to find--but collector interest IS starting to grow and prices are going up. The last ditch gun is worth less, but, depending on condition, the first gun you describe can bring upwards of $400 with intact mums, matching numbers. An original monopod (most are missing) just sold on ebay for more than $150--so collector interest is growing. You need to post pictures and check for matching numbers. You can sometimes find cleaning rods on ebay--I don't believe they are numbered.

03-09-2011, 07:09 AM	#4
woolleyworm TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SW Fort Worth Contributor Posts: 4,883	Re: Two Japanese Type 99 Arisaka Rifles. Value estimate needed. Pics of the receiver, safety, mum marks and the bolt handle would be nice if you can post them. With only the info provided, I'd agree with OldSF, around the 175-250 range between the two. __________________ . What are you gonna do, talk the alien to death? -- (on Sigourney Weaver's worry about Guns in Aliens) "Safety is something that happens between your ears, not something you hold in your hands." "I carry a small gun to compensate for my huge Blue press." .

03-09-2011, 08:02 AM	#5
polishshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 7,863	Re: Two Japanese Type 99 Arisaka Rifles. Value estimate needed. And give us the series marking and number on the sides of the receiver as well, that speaks volumes, and might narrow your production date down some. The other thing is show or talk to us about the bolt handles, the safety knob, sights, buttplate, cleaning rod(s), all can tell us a lot more about the rifle. The Type 99 probably underwent more changes in it's relatively short lifetime than any other contemporary military rifle, while they made about 2.5 million of them in that time frame, there are so many differences it is sometimes difficult to see two that are EXACTLY alike which adds a little fun to collecting them. And they are definitely escalating in price to collectors, a FAR cry from even 20 years ago when it was not uncommon to find them available for $20-$25 GOSH I wish I knew then what I know NOW, but then again, that's the story not only of MY life but many others too! __________________ The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

03-09-2011, 04:05 PM	#6
MulishaSoldier829 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3	Re: Two Japanese Type 99 Arisaka Rifles. Value estimate needed. Thanks for the input everyone. I will post the pictures you have asked for later today.

03-09-2011, 06:15 PM	#7
wonderwhippet Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,586	Re: Two Japanese Type 99 Arisaka Rifles. Value estimate needed. Arisaka rifles with ground Mums sell for approximately $175. Add about $50 for an intact Mum. These are general prices for average condition.

03-09-2011, 10:06 PM	#8
MulishaSoldier829 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3	Re: Two Japanese Type 99 Arisaka Rifles. Value estimate needed. Finally finished taking and uploading the photos of both rifles. Any info would be greatly appreciated, thanks. Rifle photos: http://http://community.webshots.com/user/MulishaSoldier829 __________________ "The ones who know don't care anymore, and the ones who care don't know." Last edited by MulishaSoldier829; 03-09-2011 at 10:07 PM..

03-10-2011, 07:34 PM	#9
Buffalochip Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 754	Re: Two Japanese Type 99 Arisaka Rifles. Value estimate needed. The rifle with the ground mum is late production--roughly made, fixed peep sight, wood butt plate--commonly referred to as a "last ditch" rifle. The other with intact mum is also late war. It is missing the wings from the aircraft sight. These are the short rifles--both are in pretty rough shape and are probably in the $100-$125 dollar range. If you can post pictures of the serial number, it should be possible to determine who manufactured it and the series.