Best .22 rifle

J.D. Bass · 03-12-2011, 07:25 PM

I'm thinking of getting a new .22 rifle. Right now all I have is a 10/22, and its great for consistency and its a very hearty gun. I'm looking for the same attributes in a second .22 but I need the accuracy and fit that the 10/22 lacks. The other thing is that I need to stay under or around $350. Is it doable?

J.D. Bass · 03-12-2011, 07:36 PM

oh yeah...ps....the only gun I'm checking out right now is the Henry H001 and other models of Henrys. Not to say I wouldn't be open to anything else, open to any sugestions right now.

ozo · 03-12-2011, 07:43 PM

Put your $350 into building the 10/22. Tons of options.
Also, tons of choices for .22s, doable for that price.
Look at a large gun store, Gander, Dicks, Cabelas, etc
and you can find many to touch.

woolleyworm · 03-12-2011, 07:44 PM

If you want accuracy and fit, stick with a bolt and not a Henry. I love Henry's and they're nice guns, but not nearly as accurate as can be had for the money.

Yes, $350 range is doable, check out the Savage offerings or a CZ452. Probably get some other suggestions here too, but that would be my choice for that budget range; alot of accurate bang for your buck and plenty of mods available to either if you want to tinker with them down the road.

Sheffieldshooter · 03-12-2011, 07:48 PM

Get a CZ 452 American if you want to shoot very accurately with a scoped rifle

or a CZ 452 FS if you want to shoot very accurately with an open sighted rifle.

American Leader · 03-12-2011, 07:49 PM

I have several .22's, one that sticks in my mind for accuracy is my Remington 597, it drives tacks! I bought me, my three sons, and my two son-in-laws each one and they are all very accurate. However, I always thought the 10/22 was an accurate rifle? I surprised, maybe OZO is right, think about customizing. $350.00 for a new .22 shouldn't be a problem if that is how you want to go.

J.D. Bass · 03-12-2011, 07:55 PM

ozo, interesting to think about customizing my 10/22 but I kinda just want a second gun. Also, I visit gun shops and auctions pretty often but, I want something special and I just haven't put my hands on it. Wolleyworm, I took a quick look at the CZ and I like what I see. I'll have to read some reviews and do my homework. I have never been exposed to any CZ guns. I hear they are pretty great. Thanks guys for your suggestions.

J.D. Bass · 03-12-2011, 08:02 PM

SheffieldShooter's post is pretty convensing

. AL, I already did the 597 thing. Just the wrong gun for me. The 10/22 isn't bad on the accuracy, but it isn't awesome. I learned to shoot .22 (at the age of 7) a bolt action single shot Remington .22 that was super accurate. Maybe the most accurate rifle I ever shot. I used that for squirrels and other small game all thru high school. I'd like to get that kind of accuracy back but with a little more in the way of size and less limited to one shot.

woolleyworm · 03-12-2011, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.D. Bass

ozo, interesting to think about customizing my 10/22 but I kinda just want a second gun. Also, I visit gun shops and auctions pretty often but, I want something special and I just haven't put my hands on it. Wolleyworm, I took a quick look at the CZ and I like what I see. I'll have to read some reviews and do my homework. I have never been exposed to any CZ guns. I hear they are pretty great. Thanks guys for your suggestions.

I think for that budget range; you'll find very very little arguement on what the most accurate rifle is - the CZ hands down. They're well made and have a very good feel to them.

AL - 10/22's are fairly accurate guns, there is just so much that you can customize on them and still plenty of room to squeeze more accuracy from them. I've got a neighbor that has over $1500 into his 10/22; a bit of overkill IMO, but it's what he enjoys and he has let me shoot it, so it's good by me!

Sheffieldshooter · 03-12-2011, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woolleyworm

I think for that budget range; you'll find very very little arguement on what the most accurate rifle is - the CZ hands down. They're well made and have a very good feel to them.

One of my shooting friends, Willie Rhodes, used his left hand model of the CZ 452 American to set the USBR 50 Meter Sporter Class record last year:

http://usbr.benchrest.net/usbr_rec.htm

J.D. Bass · 03-12-2011, 08:35 PM

Wow S.shooter, thats quite an endorsement. I've just been shopping around for the CZ 453 FS (because I like to shoot open sites) and I see that they are going for about $100 out of the olé price range. I'm not in a hurry, so I'll just save for a while. At this point thats on the top of the list. I'll have to get to Jays Sporting Goods and Cabelas before I make up my mind. Its nice that everyone here is so generous with their information. Thanks.

Sheffieldshooter · 03-12-2011, 08:47 PM

The FS is a fine choice but don't wait too long as CZ is phasing out production of the 452 models and replacing them with their new 455s. The 455 is a lesser rifle.

By the way, the FS is stocked better (low comb) for open sight shooting but I have had a scope on it at times and it handles a small scope in medium height rings quite well:

I like the way my FS will even shoot well with cheap ammo like CCI Blazer:

Sheffieldshooter · 03-12-2011, 08:52 PM

Keep in mind, you can get into a CZ 452 Special (aka Trainer, aka Standard) for around $325 to $350. Beech stock, longer barrel, just as accurate:

Here are some 50 yard open sight groups from my first outing with this Special on Halloween Day (2010):

J.D. Bass · 03-12-2011, 09:05 PM

I called my brother who has the old single shot that he and I shared growing up. He said it is a Remington 514. Crazy accurate for a small light .22 Wouldn't mind having another one of those either.

CampingJosh · 03-12-2011, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.D. Bass

I called my brother who has the old single shot that he and I shared growing up. He said it is a Remington 514. Crazy accurate for a small light .22 Wouldn't mind having another one of those either.

Those 514s are definitely a well-built rifle. I actually like the whole Remington 51X series... I'm going to have the whole set someday.

Just not yet.

J.D. Bass · 03-12-2011, 09:33 PM

If I were going to shop for another 51x gun it would be the 513. They had a clip and would hold 5 or 6 rounds. I just can't remember if that gun would take the shorts like the 514 would. Anyway, great, cheap little guns.

Phshmx-1 · 03-12-2011, 09:34 PM

I have a 1902 wincheaster single bolt action .22 short that I want to restore . It seems the spring for the cocking mechaism is broken. any suggestion?

J.D. Bass · 03-12-2011, 09:39 PM

Sorry man. You should post that question in the "technical questions and information" forum. They are pretty good about that kinda thing.

Phshmx-1 · 03-12-2011, 09:46 PM

Whats it worth?

Phshmx-1 · 03-12-2011, 09:47 PM

ok. thank you

J.D. Bass · 03-12-2011, 09:48 PM

are you asking what your winchester is worth???

Phshmx-1 · 03-12-2011, 09:49 PM

yes sir.

J.D. Bass · 03-12-2011, 09:54 PM

Well, if you want a good estimate you should start your on thread and post some pictures in the "ask the pros and what its worth" forum. Without pictures and an idea of its condition it will be very hard to place a ball park value on your winchester. I've seen them go for $175 - $300 lately but with broken parts it will probably be less.

Phshmx-1 · 03-12-2011, 10:02 PM

Thank you sir for your imput. I would like to get it repaired for my son. The last time it was used was when I was seven, About 40 years ago. A good rifle for beginners.

J.D. Bass · 03-12-2011, 10:09 PM

For sure. It would be great for that. Looks like you new with only a few posts like me. I'm not sure if you have figured out this site yet but you can browse the forums under the "quick links" button at the top. Then press "user control panel". Stop me if I'm rambling on about stuff you already know.

03-12-2011, 07:25 PM	#1
J.D. Bass V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 218	Best .22 rifle I'm thinking of getting a new .22 rifle. Right now all I have is a 10/22, and its great for consistency and its a very hearty gun. I'm looking for the same attributes in a second .22 but I need the accuracy and fit that the 10/22 lacks. The other thing is that I need to stay under or around $350. Is it doable? -->

03-12-2011, 07:36 PM	#2
J.D. Bass V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 218	Re: Best .22 rifle oh yeah...ps....the only gun I'm checking out right now is the Henry H001 and other models of Henrys. Not to say I wouldn't be open to anything else, open to any sugestions right now.

03-12-2011, 07:43 PM	#3
ozo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 2,770	Re: Best .22 rifle Put your $350 into building the 10/22. Tons of options. Also, tons of choices for .22s, doable for that price. Look at a large gun store, Gander, Dicks, Cabelas, etc and you can find many to touch. __________________ http://www.nranews.com/#/nranews, "ozo. you're off your rocker sir." -johnlives4christ http://www.prisonplanet.com/ -America,Bless GOD-

03-12-2011, 07:44 PM	#4
woolleyworm TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SW Fort Worth Contributor Posts: 4,882	Re: Best .22 rifle If you want accuracy and fit, stick with a bolt and not a Henry. I love Henry's and they're nice guns, but not nearly as accurate as can be had for the money. Yes, $350 range is doable, check out the Savage offerings or a CZ452. Probably get some other suggestions here too, but that would be my choice for that budget range; alot of accurate bang for your buck and plenty of mods available to either if you want to tinker with them down the road. __________________ . What are you gonna do, talk the alien to death? -- (on Sigourney Weaver's worry about Guns in Aliens) "Safety is something that happens between your ears, not something you hold in your hands." "I carry a small gun to compensate for my huge Blue press." .

03-12-2011, 07:48 PM	#5
Sheffieldshooter Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: North Alabama Posts: 45	Re: Best .22 rifle Get a CZ 452 American if you want to shoot very accurately with a scoped rifle or a CZ 452 FS if you want to shoot very accurately with an open sighted rifle.

03-12-2011, 07:49 PM	#6
American Leader Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Iowa Contributor Posts: 1,630	Re: Best .22 rifle I have several .22's, one that sticks in my mind for accuracy is my Remington 597, it drives tacks! I bought me, my three sons, and my two son-in-laws each one and they are all very accurate. However, I always thought the 10/22 was an accurate rifle? I surprised, maybe OZO is right, think about customizing. $350.00 for a new .22 shouldn't be a problem if that is how you want to go.

03-12-2011, 07:55 PM	#7
J.D. Bass V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 218	Re: Best .22 rifle ozo, interesting to think about customizing my 10/22 but I kinda just want a second gun. Also, I visit gun shops and auctions pretty often but, I want something special and I just haven't put my hands on it. Wolleyworm, I took a quick look at the CZ and I like what I see. I'll have to read some reviews and do my homework. I have never been exposed to any CZ guns. I hear they are pretty great. Thanks guys for your suggestions.

03-12-2011, 08:02 PM	#8
J.D. Bass V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 218	Re: Best .22 rifle SheffieldShooter's post is pretty convensing . AL, I already did the 597 thing. Just the wrong gun for me. The 10/22 isn't bad on the accuracy, but it isn't awesome. I learned to shoot .22 (at the age of 7) a bolt action single shot Remington .22 that was super accurate. Maybe the most accurate rifle I ever shot. I used that for squirrels and other small game all thru high school. I'd like to get that kind of accuracy back but with a little more in the way of size and less limited to one shot.

03-12-2011, 08:35 PM	#11
J.D. Bass V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 218	Re: Best .22 rifle Wow S.shooter, thats quite an endorsement. I've just been shopping around for the CZ 453 FS (because I like to shoot open sites) and I see that they are going for about $100 out of the olé price range. I'm not in a hurry, so I'll just save for a while. At this point thats on the top of the list. I'll have to get to Jays Sporting Goods and Cabelas before I make up my mind. Its nice that everyone here is so generous with their information. Thanks.

03-12-2011, 08:47 PM	#12
Sheffieldshooter Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: North Alabama Posts: 45	Re: Best .22 rifle The FS is a fine choice but don't wait too long as CZ is phasing out production of the 452 models and replacing them with their new 455s. The 455 is a lesser rifle. By the way, the FS is stocked better (low comb) for open sight shooting but I have had a scope on it at times and it handles a small scope in medium height rings quite well: I like the way my FS will even shoot well with cheap ammo like CCI Blazer:

03-12-2011, 08:52 PM	#13
Sheffieldshooter Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: North Alabama Posts: 45	Re: Best .22 rifle Keep in mind, you can get into a CZ 452 Special (aka Trainer, aka Standard) for around $325 to $350. Beech stock, longer barrel, just as accurate: Here are some 50 yard open sight groups from my first outing with this Special on Halloween Day (2010): Last edited by Sheffieldshooter; 03-12-2011 at 08:54 PM..

03-12-2011, 09:05 PM	#14
J.D. Bass V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 218	Re: Best .22 rifle I called my brother who has the old single shot that he and I shared growing up. He said it is a Remington 514. Crazy accurate for a small light .22 Wouldn't mind having another one of those either.

03-12-2011, 09:33 PM	#16
J.D. Bass V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 218	Re: Best .22 rifle If I were going to shop for another 51x gun it would be the 513. They had a clip and would hold 5 or 6 rounds. I just can't remember if that gun would take the shorts like the 514 would. Anyway, great, cheap little guns.

03-12-2011, 09:34 PM	#17
Phshmx-1 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 9	Re: Best .22 rifle I have a 1902 wincheaster single bolt action .22 short that I want to restore . It seems the spring for the cocking mechaism is broken. any suggestion?

03-12-2011, 09:39 PM	#18
J.D. Bass V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 218	Re: Best .22 rifle Sorry man. You should post that question in the "technical questions and information" forum. They are pretty good about that kinda thing.

03-12-2011, 09:46 PM	#19
Phshmx-1 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 9	Re: Best .22 rifle Whats it worth?

03-12-2011, 09:47 PM	#20
Phshmx-1 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 9	Re: Best .22 rifle ok. thank you

03-12-2011, 09:48 PM	#21
J.D. Bass V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 218	Re: Best .22 rifle are you asking what your winchester is worth???

03-12-2011, 09:49 PM	#22
Phshmx-1 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 9	Re: Best .22 rifle yes sir.

03-12-2011, 09:54 PM	#23
J.D. Bass V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 218	Re: Best .22 rifle Well, if you want a good estimate you should start your on thread and post some pictures in the "ask the pros and what its worth" forum. Without pictures and an idea of its condition it will be very hard to place a ball park value on your winchester. I've seen them go for $175 - $300 lately but with broken parts it will probably be less.

03-12-2011, 10:02 PM	#24
Phshmx-1 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 9	Re: Best .22 rifle Thank you sir for your imput. I would like to get it repaired for my son. The last time it was used was when I was seven, About 40 years ago. A good rifle for beginners.

03-12-2011, 10:09 PM	#25
J.D. Bass V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 218	Re: Best .22 rifle For sure. It would be great for that. Looks like you new with only a few posts like me. I'm not sure if you have figured out this site yet but you can browse the forums under the "quick links" button at the top. Then press "user control panel". Stop me if I'm rambling on about stuff you already know.