Pistols on-line? - The Firearms Forum

Radioman909 · 03-24-2011, 03:22 PM

Am I hearing right that I can order a black powder pistol on-line and have it sent to my house on the Left Coast (California) without going through a FFL and the DROS fee? Is this right that there is no waiting period?

stewswanson · 03-24-2011, 04:39 PM

Yes- in most juristictions you can purchase and own a BP pistol(they are not classified as firearms) if you are not prohibited from owning a firearm (felon, etc.) Some localities such as San Francisco may have local laws that prevent all but felons from having a pistol.
Stew

rdstrain49 · 03-24-2011, 06:07 PM

No, it won't happen in my state too. We the people will not stand for it, nor would we stand idly by. Don't assume that a lack of backbone on the left coast exists in other states.

Radioman909 · 03-24-2011, 06:23 PM

Yes, after calling several dealers it is true, no waiting period, no DROS fee's and they can mail it to my house. Now .36 cal or .44 Cal in a 1858 Remington Steel frame Police model with 5-1/2 or 6-1/2 in barrel?

Hawg · 03-24-2011, 11:32 PM

The Pietta 58 Police is simply a shorter barreled version of the .36 Navy. Original Police revolvers were built on a smaller frame and were five shot. Just sayin.

Pustic · 04-18-2011, 04:08 AM

I get mine from the gun shows, cash and carry, my way of doing business.

The second from the bottom is also my avatar.

Pustic

old semperfi · 04-18-2011, 06:28 AM

if you lived in the usa where we are treated equally then yes,but in foriegn countrys such as california then chk for state laws. old semperfi

tyc · 04-18-2011, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radioman909

Am I hearing right that I can order a black powder pistol on-line and have it sent to my house on the Left Coast (California) without going through a FFL and the DROS fee? Is this right that there is no waiting period?

In it's own way California is about as weird as Massachusetts and Pennsylvania but odds are the answer is YES ... but again ... we are talking about California here and with that said, if I may suggest, check - www.http://forum.opencarry.org - and see what may be posted there regarding your state. Also and if you wish, check with one or more of the SASS organizations which I know are active in California.

Hope this helps.

tyc

ofitg · 04-18-2011, 12:58 PM

From the California penal code -

The term firearm includes rifles, shotguns, revolvers, pistols, or any other device designed to be used as a weapon from which a projectile is expelled by the force of any explosion or other form of combustion. The term firearm includes the frame or receiver of any such weapon. (Penal Code 12001.) For the purposes of sections 12025 and 12031, the term firearm also includes any rocket, rocket propelled projectile launcher, or similar device containing any explosive or incendiary material whether or not the device is designed for emergency or distress signaling purposes. (Penal Code 12001.) The term firearm does not apply to a federally defined "antique" firearm for the purpose of dealer licensing requirements, sales or loans between private parties, or requirements to obtain a Basic Firearms Safety Certificate pursuant to Penal Code sections 12070, 12071, subdivisions (b) (c) or (d) of 12072, or 12073. The term firearm does not apply to federally defined "curio" or "relic" long guns over 50 years old for the purpose of transfers between private parties. (Penal Code 12001(e),12078(t)(2).)

An antique firearm is defined as any firearm that was manufactured in or before 1898 and is not designed or redesigned to use rimfire or conventional center fire ignition with fixed ammunition. This includes any matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system or replica thereof, regardless of the date of manufacture. Firearms manufactured in or before 1898 that use fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade are also considered antiques. (Penal Code 12020(b)(5).)

http://www.calgunlaws.com/

nynomad · 04-18-2011, 01:09 PM

In New York - my understanding is yes you can just have a BP pistol mailed to your house. BUT you can't have powder and projectile and a BP pistol. Unless you have a pistol permit. The pistol by itself is legal. Rifles no restrictions.

As I said this is my understanding for NY. Cali might be the same might be diff.

03-24-2011, 03:22 PM	#1
Radioman909 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Left Coast of America Posts: 31	Pistols on-line? Am I hearing right that I can order a black powder pistol on-line and have it sent to my house on the Left Coast (California) without going through a FFL and the DROS fee? Is this right that there is no waiting period? __________________ Don't hold it against me that I am from California, just remember it could happen in your state to! -->

03-24-2011, 04:39 PM	#2
stewswanson Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 19	Re: Pistols on-line? Yes- in most juristictions you can purchase and own a BP pistol(they are not classified as firearms) if you are not prohibited from owning a firearm (felon, etc.) Some localities such as San Francisco may have local laws that prevent all but felons from having a pistol. Stew

03-24-2011, 06:07 PM	#3
rdstrain49 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 44	Re: Pistols on-line? No, it won't happen in my state too. We the people will not stand for it, nor would we stand idly by. Don't assume that a lack of backbone on the left coast exists in other states.

03-24-2011, 06:23 PM	#4
Radioman909 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Left Coast of America Posts: 31	Re: Pistols on-line? Yes, after calling several dealers it is true, no waiting period, no DROS fee's and they can mail it to my house. Now .36 cal or .44 Cal in a 1858 Remington Steel frame Police model with 5-1/2 or 6-1/2 in barrel? __________________ Don't hold it against me that I am from California, just remember it could happen in your state to!

03-24-2011, 11:32 PM	#5
Hawg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,554	Re: Pistols on-line? The Pietta 58 Police is simply a shorter barreled version of the .36 Navy. Original Police revolvers were built on a smaller frame and were five shot. Just sayin.

04-18-2011, 04:08 AM	#6
Pustic V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Western Kentucky Posts: 146	Re: Pistols on-line? I get mine from the gun shows, cash and carry, my way of doing business. The second from the bottom is also my avatar. Pustic Attached Images __________________ No matter what they say or do, I will never surrender my guns. Am I paranoid? Nope, I'm heavily armed. Last edited by Pustic; 04-18-2011 at 04:13 AM.. Reason: adding more info.

04-18-2011, 06:28 AM	#7
old semperfi Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: i live in southern indiana,old country boy at heart Posts: 1,506	Re: Pistols on-line? if you lived in the usa where we are treated equally then yes,but in foriegn countrys such as california then chk for state laws. old semperfi

04-18-2011, 12:58 PM	#9
ofitg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Contributor Posts: 1,447	Re: Pistols on-line? From the California penal code - The term firearm includes rifles, shotguns, revolvers, pistols, or any other device designed to be used as a weapon from which a projectile is expelled by the force of any explosion or other form of combustion. The term firearm includes the frame or receiver of any such weapon. (Penal Code 12001.) For the purposes of sections 12025 and 12031, the term firearm also includes any rocket, rocket propelled projectile launcher, or similar device containing any explosive or incendiary material whether or not the device is designed for emergency or distress signaling purposes. (Penal Code 12001.) The term firearm does not apply to a federally defined "antique" firearm for the purpose of dealer licensing requirements, sales or loans between private parties, or requirements to obtain a Basic Firearms Safety Certificate pursuant to Penal Code sections 12070, 12071, subdivisions (b) (c) or (d) of 12072, or 12073. The term firearm does not apply to federally defined "curio" or "relic" long guns over 50 years old for the purpose of transfers between private parties. (Penal Code 12001(e),12078(t)(2).) An antique firearm is defined as any firearm that was manufactured in or before 1898 and is not designed or redesigned to use rimfire or conventional center fire ignition with fixed ammunition. This includes any matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system *or replica thereof, regardless of the date of manufacture*. Firearms manufactured in or before 1898 that use fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade are also considered antiques. (Penal Code 12020(b)(5).) http://www.calgunlaws.com/

04-18-2011, 01:09 PM	#10
nynomad V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 377	Re: Pistols on-line? In New York - my understanding is yes you can just have a BP pistol mailed to your house. BUT you can't have powder and projectile and a BP pistol. Unless you have a pistol permit. The pistol by itself is legal. Rifles no restrictions. As I said this is my understanding for NY. Cali might be the same might be diff. Last edited by nynomad; 04-18-2011 at 01:11 PM..