100 Yard Rimfire Match - The Firearms Forum

Joe Haller · 06-12-2003, 03:47 PM

Our club had a benchrest rimfire match last Sunday. We shot 25 & 50 yards on the USBR target: The Rimfire E-Mail Match course of fire. Our scores will count in the June E-Mail Match sponsored over on Rimfire Central.

I talked to some of the local shooters about your "take a picture of the target" match. We are thinking of having a "side match" at our next shoot on July 13th. The Side Match will be at 100 yards on the NRA 100 yard A-25 target: Same as the WalMart target with the 1 inch "X" ring and the 2 inch 10 ring.

If your shooters would agree to use that target at 100 yards, we would like to participate in your "picture" match. In last Sunday's match we had 21 shooters. I can't say how many of these local guys would be willing to shoot at 100 yards in our July match, but some of us would like to enter our scores in your match, if we can all agree on the course of fire.

Joe Haller
hallermac@aol.com

Smokin Guns · 06-12-2003, 06:17 PM

I'm in...100yds.,...Let's get started!...

pickenup · 06-12-2003, 07:21 PM

What would you set for the rules (course of fire)?
Use a rest? Open sights? Scopes? Any target the has a 1” X and 2” 10 ring? Etc. etc.

Joe Haller · 06-12-2003, 07:24 PM

Score it.
Take a picture of the target.
Post it here.

I'll try to get a few scores in before we have our next match on July 13th.

10 shots at 100 yards.
NRA A-25 target or the WalMart equivalant target:
1 inch X ring; 2 inch ten ring; 4 inch nine ring; 6 inch eight ring; 8 inch seven ring; 10 inch six ring and 12 inch five ring.
Any rifle or pistol.
Any sights.
Any position.

Joe

Smokin Guns · 06-12-2003, 07:49 PM

Sounds like we're "GO"...!...

pickenup · 06-12-2003, 07:50 PM

Sounds good to me.

Smokin Guns · 06-15-2003, 08:40 PM

I'm still ready!...Let's roll!...

Joe Haller · 06-15-2003, 10:35 PM

Yea: The wife is going to WalMart tomorrow morning and I am gona tag along. Gona get a couple packs of those WalMart targets with the one inch "x" and 2 inch 10 ring.

My grand son wants to go fishing in the afternoon, but we should be able to give that 100 yard target a try on Tuesday or Wednesday. Haven't shot that target in competition since I was "into" NRA smallbore prone tournament back in the late 50's and early 60's.

Ya want pictures of just the target and rifle or do you want the shooter in the picture too?

Joe

Smokin Guns · 06-16-2003, 08:30 PM

Quote:

shooter in the picture too?

Joe, That's up to you!...Gun and Target result is the most important!...'course I would like ta see yer smilin' face!...

keppler · 06-19-2003, 10:33 PM

Heck Yea!!!

Last time I tries 100 yards I did'nt do so good. Don't take much wind to throw'em off at that distance.
I'll try and go this Saturday if things go right for a change.
Still trying ammo for 100 yards and 50 too since the new brick of Wolf don't impress me much.

Joe Haller · 06-20-2003, 05:22 PM

Yea: The wind.

A 10 MPH cross wind will drift the .22 rimfire:
1/4 inch at 25 yards.
1 inch at 50 yards.
4 inches at 100 yards.

If you are sighted in at 100 yards in calm conditions and a 10 MPH wind comes up from 3 o'clock: AND YOU DON'T SEE IT, you now have a 4 inch group.

If the wind now switches to 9 o'clock: AND YOU DON'T SEE IT: You now at an 8 inch group, all shots in a line from left to right.

Watch the wind! If you have a real bad target, post it anyway: And: BLAME IT ON THE WIND.

Joe :-)

Smokin Guns · 06-20-2003, 06:07 PM

Hey Joe!, Tommorow is the day for 100 yard shootin'...I wanna see how hard this really is!...

keppler · 06-20-2003, 08:13 PM

Thanks Joe...I need to make me some flags and learn them for this.

Wait till ya try this one SG...whole new world.

Oh yeah....finally got the other Kimber scoped. I'll be trying it also.

Smokin Guns · 06-20-2003, 08:26 PM

Yep Kep!...Let's give em a try!...'course I'm just a "Stock Rifle"...with Scope type a'shooter !...

keppler · 06-20-2003, 09:51 PM

It seems to me that we need to sight our guns in when there is NO wind...then learn the effects the wind has on the bullit in flight. It looks to me like anything past 75 yards is just throwin them in there amongst the others Until you git sighted in and learn the wind. It is a lotta fun but be ready to git aggrivated,,,I know I will

Joe Haller · 06-20-2003, 10:33 PM

Put up two targets. One above the other. Sight in on the top target and when ya think ya got er close to the middle, go down on the record target: 10 shots.

It's OK to go back up to the sighter target to check for a wind change.

Joe :-)

Joe Haller · 06-21-2003, 12:21 PM

Set out your wind flag(s): More is better.
1. Look for the wind condition that occurs most often.
2. Sight in using that condition.
3. Take note of a second condition that occurs often.
4. Hold center in that condition and see where the shots go.
5. If your most common condition does not come back: Hold off and use your second condition.

Note: In a sanctioned match there are time limits.
If neither of your conditions comes back and you have 15 seconds before "Cease Fire": GUESS!
Do you know what "Match Pressure" is?
You will. You will.

But let's not put a time limit on this match yet: OK.

Joe

keppler · 06-21-2003, 12:41 PM

Geezzz...Guess I'll go first.

OK...
Kimber Classic
100 Yards
5 shot groups
Federal Gold Medal 900
Bench with bags

keppler · 06-21-2003, 12:44 PM

Heres another

keppler · 06-21-2003, 12:47 PM

Heres with another rifle

Kimber H/S
100 Yards
5 Shot Group
Federal Gold Medal 900

keppler · 06-21-2003, 12:50 PM

And one more

keppler · 06-21-2003, 05:00 PM

Grrrrrr....after posting the last pic, this stupid puter decided it need a rest...one of these days I'm gonna use it for a target...with my 300 mag.

Anyway, I had a pretty good day shootin...for me anyway. The wind was pretty calm early then became tornado strength...normal for here. The trouble with shootin thru a lane in the trees is the wind seems to do a lot of swirling and changing directions.
Ended up having to leave earlier than I wanted but thats the way it goes.
Kinda curious about the vertical stringing with the Classic...maybe needs floated? Should'nt... but I should check it. Any ideas??
I'll try and go in the morning and do a little more at 50 yards and may even try 25 yards just to see if I can.
For some reason I forgot we were firing 10 shot groups so I did the usual 5.
I would like to make some wind flags since the last 10 yards or so of my range is open to the wind and it changes a lot there at the last..it seems this is the most vulnerable part of the bullets flight.
Of course I could move my bench but them I would'nt have a good shade to set in.

Smokin Guns · 06-21-2003, 08:26 PM

Wind or No Wind Kep!...Y'all put up a heck of a group!...'course I got a long ways to go in the shootin' arena!...I'm game for another try tommorow!...ran out of time today...I'm going to have to consider rifle & Scope upgrade also!...Congratulations!...

Joe Haller · 06-21-2003, 08:57 PM

That's one fine shootin Kimber. Maybe you ought to mix it up with the boys over on Rimfire Central, in the E-Mail Match.

25 shots for score at 25 yards and 25 shots at 50 yards on the USBR target.

Take a look at the target.

Joe

keppler · 06-21-2003, 09:34 PM

Thanks for the offer Joe. Actually the Oklahoma team Capt. has contacted me about joining....I think he's from Shawnee...not too far from me.

I've been real pleased with both of these guns except for being so picky about ammo. I hope to get another...Super America...soon. I really like the looks of those. I'm more into sporting rifles than the target or benchrest styles. Love the wood.

I guess I better stay here. Nothing wrong with your matches and I like to read the post at RFC, but I seldom have anyone to shoot with me and I really like the informal... just for fun matches we have goin on here. I think I have some of your practice targets around here somewhere, if I get a chance to go in the morning I may it a try.

06-12-2003, 03:47 PM	#1
Joe Haller V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan & Mission, Texas Posts: 144	100 Yard Rimfire Match Our club had a benchrest rimfire match last Sunday. We shot 25 & 50 yards on the USBR target: The Rimfire E-Mail Match course of fire. Our scores will count in the June E-Mail Match sponsored over on Rimfire Central. I talked to some of the local shooters about your "take a picture of the target" match. We are thinking of having a "side match" at our next shoot on July 13th. The Side Match will be at 100 yards on the NRA 100 yard A-25 target: Same as the WalMart target with the 1 inch "X" ring and the 2 inch 10 ring. If your shooters would agree to use that target at 100 yards, we would like to participate in your "picture" match. In last Sunday's match we had 21 shooters. I can't say how many of these local guys would be willing to shoot at 100 yards in our July match, but some of us would like to enter our scores in your match, if we can all agree on the course of fire. Joe Haller hallermac@aol.com __________________ Joe Haller Rimfire E-Mail Benchrest Match Coordinator -->

06-12-2003, 06:17 PM	#2
Smokin Guns Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: "Gun Culture Members Clubhouse"... Posts: 4,463	Joe!... I'm in...100yds.,...Let's get started!... __________________

06-12-2003, 07:21 PM	#3
pickenup Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains Posts: 6,838	What would you set for the rules (course of fire)? Use a rest? Open sights? Scopes? Any target the has a 1” X and 2” 10 ring? Etc. etc. __________________ The gene pool needs chlorine

06-12-2003, 07:24 PM	#4
Joe Haller V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan & Mission, Texas Posts: 144	Shoot it . . . Score it. Take a picture of the target. Post it here. I'll try to get a few scores in before we have our next match on July 13th. 10 shots at 100 yards. NRA A-25 target or the WalMart equivalant target: 1 inch X ring; 2 inch ten ring; 4 inch nine ring; 6 inch eight ring; 8 inch seven ring; 10 inch six ring and 12 inch five ring. Any rifle or pistol. Any sights. Any position. Joe __________________ Joe Haller Rimfire E-Mail Benchrest Match Coordinator

06-12-2003, 07:49 PM	#5
Smokin Guns Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: "Gun Culture Members Clubhouse"... Posts: 4,463	Yep Joe!... Sounds like we're "GO"...!... __________________

06-12-2003, 07:50 PM	#6
pickenup Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains Posts: 6,838	Sounds good to me. __________________ The gene pool needs chlorine

06-15-2003, 08:40 PM	#7
Smokin Guns Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: "Gun Culture Members Clubhouse"... Posts: 4,463	Hey Joe... I'm still ready!...Let's roll!... __________________

06-15-2003, 10:35 PM	#8
Joe Haller V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan & Mission, Texas Posts: 144	Picking up the targets tomorrow. Yea: The wife is going to WalMart tomorrow morning and I am gona tag along. Gona get a couple packs of those WalMart targets with the one inch "x" and 2 inch 10 ring. My grand son wants to go fishing in the afternoon, but we should be able to give that 100 yard target a try on Tuesday or Wednesday. Haven't shot that target in competition since I was "into" NRA smallbore prone tournament back in the late 50's and early 60's. Ya want pictures of just the target and rifle or do you want the shooter in the picture too? Joe __________________ Joe Haller Rimfire E-Mail Benchrest Match Coordinator

06-19-2003, 10:33 PM	#10
keppler Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eastern Oklahoma Posts: 645	Heck Yea!!! Last time I tries 100 yards I did'nt do so good. Don't take much wind to throw'em off at that distance. I'll try and go this Saturday if things go right for a change. Still trying ammo for 100 yards and 50 too since the new brick of Wolf don't impress me much.

06-20-2003, 05:22 PM	#11
Joe Haller V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan & Mission, Texas Posts: 144	The wind Yea: The wind. A 10 MPH cross wind will drift the .22 rimfire: 1/4 inch at 25 yards. 1 inch at 50 yards. 4 inches at 100 yards. If you are sighted in at 100 yards in calm conditions and a 10 MPH wind comes up from 3 o'clock: AND YOU DON'T SEE IT, you now have a 4 inch group. If the wind now switches to 9 o'clock: AND YOU DON'T SEE IT: You now at an 8 inch group, all shots in a line from left to right. Watch the wind! If you have a real bad target, post it anyway: And: BLAME IT ON THE WIND. Joe :-) __________________ Joe Haller Rimfire E-Mail Benchrest Match Coordinator

06-20-2003, 06:07 PM	#12
Smokin Guns Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: "Gun Culture Members Clubhouse"... Posts: 4,463	Hey Joe!, Tommorow is the day for 100 yard shootin'...I wanna see how hard this really is!... __________________

06-20-2003, 08:13 PM	#13
keppler Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eastern Oklahoma Posts: 645	Thanks Joe...I need to make me some flags and learn them for this. Wait till ya try this one SG...whole new world. Oh yeah....finally got the other Kimber scoped. I'll be trying it also. Attached Images Last edited by keppler; 06-20-2003 at 09:40 PM..

06-20-2003, 08:26 PM	#14
Smokin Guns Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: "Gun Culture Members Clubhouse"... Posts: 4,463	Yep Kep!...Let's give em a try!...'course I'm just a "Stock Rifle"...with Scope type a'shooter !... __________________

06-20-2003, 09:51 PM	#15
keppler Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eastern Oklahoma Posts: 645	It seems to me that we need to sight our guns in when there is NO wind...then learn the effects the wind has on the bullit in flight. It looks to me like anything past 75 yards is just throwin them in there amongst the others Until you git sighted in and learn the wind. It is a lotta fun but be ready to git aggrivated,,,I know I will

06-20-2003, 10:33 PM	#16
Joe Haller V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan & Mission, Texas Posts: 144	Suggestion Put up two targets. One above the other. Sight in on the top target and when ya think ya got er close to the middle, go down on the record target: 10 shots. It's OK to go back up to the sighter target to check for a wind change. Joe :-) __________________ Joe Haller Rimfire E-Mail Benchrest Match Coordinator

06-21-2003, 12:21 PM	#17
Joe Haller V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan & Mission, Texas Posts: 144	Another suggestion Set out your wind flag(s): More is better. 1. Look for the wind condition that occurs most often. 2. Sight in using that condition. 3. Take note of a second condition that occurs often. 4. Hold center in that condition and see where the shots go. 5. If your most common condition does not come back: Hold off and use your second condition. Note: In a sanctioned match there are time limits. If neither of your conditions comes back and you have 15 seconds before "Cease Fire": GUESS! Do you know what "Match Pressure" is? You will. You will. But let's not put a time limit on this match yet: OK. Joe __________________ Joe Haller Rimfire E-Mail Benchrest Match Coordinator

06-21-2003, 12:41 PM	#18
keppler Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eastern Oklahoma Posts: 645	Geezzz...Guess I'll go first. OK... Kimber Classic 100 Yards 5 shot groups Federal Gold Medal 900 Bench with bags Attached Images

06-21-2003, 12:44 PM	#19
keppler Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eastern Oklahoma Posts: 645	Heres another Attached Images

06-21-2003, 12:47 PM	#20
keppler Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eastern Oklahoma Posts: 645	Heres with another rifle Kimber H/S 100 Yards 5 Shot Group Federal Gold Medal 900 Attached Images

06-21-2003, 12:50 PM	#21
keppler Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eastern Oklahoma Posts: 645	And one more Attached Images

06-21-2003, 05:00 PM	#22
keppler Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eastern Oklahoma Posts: 645	Grrrrrr....after posting the last pic, this stupid puter decided it need a rest...one of these days I'm gonna use it for a target...with my 300 mag. Anyway, I had a pretty good day shootin...for me anyway. The wind was pretty calm early then became tornado strength...normal for here. The trouble with shootin thru a lane in the trees is the wind seems to do a lot of swirling and changing directions. Ended up having to leave earlier than I wanted but thats the way it goes. Kinda curious about the vertical stringing with the Classic...maybe needs floated? Should'nt... but I should check it. Any ideas?? I'll try and go in the morning and do a little more at 50 yards and may even try 25 yards just to see if I can. For some reason I forgot we were firing 10 shot groups so I did the usual 5. I would like to make some wind flags since the last 10 yards or so of my range is open to the wind and it changes a lot there at the last..it seems this is the most vulnerable part of the bullets flight. Of course I could move my bench but them I would'nt have a good shade to set in. Attached Images

06-21-2003, 08:26 PM	#23
Smokin Guns Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: "Gun Culture Members Clubhouse"... Posts: 4,463	Wind or No Wind Kep!...Y'all put up a heck of a group!...'course I got a long ways to go in the shootin' arena!...I'm game for another try tommorow!...ran out of time today...I'm going to have to consider rifle & Scope upgrade also!...Congratulations!... __________________

06-21-2003, 08:57 PM	#24
Joe Haller V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan & Mission, Texas Posts: 144	Hey Keppler That's one fine shootin Kimber. Maybe you ought to mix it up with the boys over on Rimfire Central, in the E-Mail Match. 25 shots for score at 25 yards and 25 shots at 50 yards on the USBR target. Take a look at the target. Joe Attached Images __________________ Joe Haller Rimfire E-Mail Benchrest Match Coordinator

06-21-2003, 09:34 PM	#25
keppler Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eastern Oklahoma Posts: 645	Thanks for the offer Joe. Actually the Oklahoma team Capt. has contacted me about joining....I think he's from Shawnee...not too far from me. I've been real pleased with both of these guns except for being so picky about ammo. I hope to get another...Super America...soon. I really like the looks of those. I'm more into sporting rifles than the target or benchrest styles. Love the wood. I guess I better stay here. Nothing wrong with your matches and I like to read the post at RFC, but I seldom have anyone to shoot with me and I really like the informal... just for fun matches we have goin on here. I think I have some of your practice targets around here somewhere, if I get a chance to go in the morning I may it a try.