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Old 05-05-2011, 05:47 PM   #1
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Default Feds Tracking Gun Purchases

Received this in e-mail just wondering if anybody else got it or has more info on it.

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The ATF is at it again.

And this time, it’s not just shotguns they’re after.

The new Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (BATFE) “rule” would require gun stores to report to the federal government the names of people who purchase more than one rifle in a week.

This new reporting requirement is nothing less than firearm registration in all but name.

The new BATFE rule change has been in place since January. It was trumpeted as a supposed “solution” to the problem with Mexican gun runners on the Southern border, but common sense tells us otherwise.

The BATFE’s exact rule states that anyone who purchases more than one rifle that is semi-automatic, larger than .22 caliber, and capable of using detachable magazines within five business days of each other, must be reported.

Although the BATFE claims that this requirement only applies to states along the southern border, the actual published rule has no geographic limitation.

That means they’re tracking the sale of shotguns and rifles across the country.

The idea for BATFE’s new requirement came from billionaire-playboy Michael Bloomberg’s henchmen at Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG). MAIG has been pushing the Obama administration to do this since August of 2009.

Anti-gunner Bloomberg released a statement calling the new rule “…a powerful new tool to catch the straw purchasers and illegal traffickers who are supplying Mexico’s cartel killers.”

His statement is typical anti-gun misdirection. While the BATFE is regulating guns that Americans buy, their “Gunwalker” program is funneling guns into the hands of the drug cartels in Mexico!

Shortly after the rule came into effect, the U.S. House passed an amendment to block the BATFE’s new power grab. This common sense amendment passed overwhelmingly 277-149.

Legislation has also been introduced in the U.S. Senate which would echo the House vote in blocking the ATF’s power grab. Solid pro-gun Senators like Rand Paul (R-KY), Tom Coburn (R-OK), and David Vitter (R-LA) are already on board with the legislation.

I need you to be aware of what’s going on because the ATF is going to open up a comment period in the future for thoughts on long-gun reporting just like they did on the Shotgun Study last month.

And I know I can count on you to be ready when your voice is needed.

Please call your senator at (202) 224-3121 and urge them to stand up for gun owners by supporting S.570.

We can stop this ridiculous power grab by the ATF, but only if we make ourselves heard loudly.

For Liberty,


Dudley Brown
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National Association for Gun Rights
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Old 05-05-2011, 06:12 PM   #2
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Yep. Happened to me in January. I purchased two different pistols through Bud's - one got hung up by their credit card processing and a UPS weather delay, and the other I bought by mailing a money order. They arrived within a week of each other at my FFL guy, and he told me he had to fill out a special ATF form for multiple purchases in one week.

It sucked, completely, but he told me it happens often.

(Unfortunately, I lost both of those guns in a bizarre sewer cleaning incident the very next week. I have GOT to learn to be more careful.)
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Old 05-05-2011, 07:27 PM   #3
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Yep. Happened to me in January. I purchased two different pistols through Bud's - one got hung up by their credit card processing and a UPS weather delay, and the other I bought by mailing a money order. They arrived within a week of each other at my FFL guy, and he told me he had to fill out a special ATF form for multiple purchases in one week.

It sucked, completely, but he told me it happens often.

(Unfortunately, I lost both of those guns in a bizarre sewer cleaning incident the very next week. I have GOT to learn to be more careful.)
I hate when that happens. Gotta be more careful next time!
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Old 05-05-2011, 07:31 PM   #4
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Quote: "The new Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (BATFE) “rule” would require gun stores to report to the federal government the names of people who purchase more than one rifle in a week."
I'm sure that I am in the minority here. Even though I own, shoot, and like guns, this rule (assuming it's the real deal) doesn't bother me. I'm not sure if I support or oppose the rule, but it just doesn't bother me.

I'm also not buying extra guns and ammo in anticipation that the government will take them away. State and (some) local laws bother me more than federal.
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:38 PM   #5
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Last I knew it was 2 long guns during any 5 day period, at least that's what the NRA reports at: http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Fe...d.aspx?id=6705

Here's the link to the actual proposal: http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2011/2011-10355.htm

BATF has extended the time for comments till May 31.

But, never mind the fact that it's illegal for BATF to ask for or require this. They don't have the authority under the present laws and there is a bill pending to prohibit it. http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Fe...d.aspx?id=6444
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:39 PM   #6
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(Unfortunately, I lost both of those guns in a bizarre sewer cleaning incident the very next week. I have GOT to learn to be more careful.)
Around here we have a lot of boating accidents where the same thing happens!
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:39 AM   #7
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Yeah, deep water and often under that, deep mud have claimed many a firearm over the years. Pity.
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