Does the Qur’an define the word "Allah"? No.
Was the name "Allah" revealed for the first time in the Qur’an? No
Does the Qur’an assume that its readers have already heard of "Allah"? Yes
Should we look into pre-Islamic Arabian history to see who "Allah" was before Muhammad? Yes.
According to Muslim tradition, was Muhammad born into a Christian family and tribe? No
Was he born into a Jewish family or tribe? No
What religion was his family and tribe? Pagans
What was the name of his pagan father? Abdullah (Abd + Allah)
Did Muhammad participate in the pagan ceremonies of Mecca? Yes
Did the Arabs in pre-Islamic times worship 360 gods? Yes
Did the pagans Arabs worship the sun, moon and the stars? Yes
Did the Arabs built temples to the Moon-god? Yes
Did different Arab tribes give the Moon-god different names/titles? Yes
What were some of the names/titles? Sin, Hubul, Ilumquh, Al-ilah.
Was the title "al-ilah" (the god) used of the Moon-god? Yes
Was the word "Allah" derived from "al-ilah?" Yes
Was the pagan "Allah" a high god in a pantheon of deities? Yes.
Was he worshipped at the Kabah? Yes.
Was Allah only one of many Meccan gods? Yes
Did they place a statue of Hubul on top of the Kabah? Yes.
At that time was Hubul considered the Moon-god? Yes.
Was the Kabah thus the "house of the Moon-god"? Yes.
Did the name "Allah" eventually replace that of Hubul as the name of the Moon god? Yes.
Did they call the Kabah the "house of Allah"? Yes
Did the pagans develop religious rites in connection with the worship of their gods? Yes.
Did the pagans practice the Pilgrimage, the Fast of Ramadan, running around the Kabah seven times, kissing the black stone, shaving the head, animal sacrifices, running up and down two hills, throwing stones at the devil, snorting water in and out the nose, praying several times a day toward Mecca, giving alms, Friday prayers, etc.? Yes.
Did Muhammad command his followers to participate in these pagan ceremonies while the pagans were still in control of Mecca? Yes (Yusuf Ali, fn. 214, pg. 78).
Did Islam go on to adopt these pagan religious rites? Yes. (Yusuf Ali: fn. 223 pg. 80).
Were al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat called "the daughters of Allah"? Yes.
Did the Qur’an at one point tell Muslims to worship al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat? Yes. In Surah 53:19-20.
Have those verses been "abrogated" out of the present Qur’an? Yes.
What were they called? "The Satanic Verses." Yes.
Was the crescent moon an ancient pagan symbol of the Moon-god throughout the ancient world? Yes.
Was it the religious symbol of the Moon-god in Arabia? Yes
Were stars also used as pagan symbols of the daughers of Allah? Yes
Did the Jews or the Christians of Arabia use the crescent moon with several stars next to it as symbols of their faith? No
Did Islam adopt the pagan crescent moon and stars as it religious symbol? Yes.
As Islam developed over the centuries, did it adopt pagan names, pagan ceremonies, pagan temples and pagan symbols? Yes
Is it possible that most Muslims do not know the pagan sources of the symbols and rites of their own religion? Yes.
Are they shocked to find out the true sources of their ceremonies and stories? Yes
Can Islam be the religion of Abraham if it is derived from paganism? No
What then is Islam? A modern version of one of the ancient fertility cults.
Is the "Allah" of the Qur’an, the Christian God of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit? No
Do the Jews say that the Muslim "Allah" is their God too? No
Many posts here have mentioned the wealth available in islam.
Where does that wealth go? If islam is so wonderful, why is it that 90% of them live in dirt? Why do the leave the ME in uncountable droves to get a sniff of freedom?
And WHY do they continue practicing the faith once they've escaped their home countries?
They run away from the tribulations they've created, and drag them right back to their new digs?
Not to mention the inbreeding in the islamic faith. Remeber the map of birth defects that was here some time ago? the Islamic countires are full of the results of inbreeding cousin to cousin. This not only creates visual defects, but is also responcible for mental defects as well. Not to mention once again insanity in their ranks. Mental defects are cool to them I guess.
Plural marrage is part of this. See the Islams kill themselves off fighting over who should lead Isalm, Sheite or Sunni, to the point widows are walking the streets, destitute....SO Shira lets them be taken in by another husband into his harrem. Just wish they would kill them selves all off! They have many problems within Islam, they don't talk about.....
It is fast becomming time to deal with these idiots, when they are here in our country. Jihad can be fun, only we are going to call it cowboys and towle heads. The indians of old know what we can do.
As for their member here on this forum, Bring it..... We will destroy you and yours in the end, if pushed, if we don't you will destroy your selves anyway with your infighting. Since you don't feel the need to control your radical ellements, we will deal with them, and extract the price from all of Islam, to pay for our troubles. Maybe crush the meterite you worship...just for fun
our friend is a cut and paste master of socialists equalitists
thers 4 or 5 sites with these exact same writing and examples to argue against democracy and christianity , but they dont have any real arguements
yes the west in its efforts to fight communism did some dum stuff that went bad too many times
but was its a dedicated jihad on all in thier way no ..
Islam however regularly gives orders and they are in writing , we captured enough in east timor , to show that the imam's tell the fighters who to kill and who not too, and then scream for pity as he's a cleric when it all goes wrong ( read up on milosovich)
they have no arguement only counter accusations but if we combined all the great evils of the west , stalin hitler the emprire builders of the dutch east indies company and pol pot you would not have the death role that islam has created in any decade of the past 2 centuries
ww1 and 2 combine do not equal the deaths by islam in india in the 14-16th century they dont equal 10% of the deaths just there
islam is evil and it is blind as it relies on arguements of socialists to make its self look good but no one who throws crap looks good especially when they do so from the top of the biggest pile of crap to ever exist..
and its these kind of posting that will show how stupid islam really is their arguement that mohamed is a true profit is based on lies he never did anything to qualify as a prophet so the case of all they say is all nothing , until they prove mohamed did something that makes him a prophet , and child sex dont qualify him ..
take a look at the sharia demo in the US and Australia , its the socialists who are doing the mouthpeiceing , they make the speeches and invite a moderate muslim ( who later builds a mosque at ground zero and says anyone who objects is a racist and does not care for peace)
the clowns i'm taking to court are all socialist alliance
because the islamists cant stand up in front of people and spout this crap without losing it
the first time you ask where the name allah comes from they call you racist , or say they have been insulted and have to leave
the first time they deny mohamed's pedophilia and you quote the koran back at them and they say you have changed it , my koran came from the biggest islamic scholl on the planet and is in arabic english and russian , by the egyptian islamic association and he knows this ( they want to buy it ) whats been changed ? nothing ...
so they get the socialists (godless) to argue for islam .. and where a lot of their crap comes from , humanists, socialists, deluded all
as for the piggy's, a 205 litre drum of pig's blood here is like $300 so you'll be on a winner long term for sure ..
Maybe there is reincarnation, and I have dealt with them before, but nothing in my land enrages me more than these fools. I am generally not so "tainted" about people and issues, but this issue has me wanting to do things and say what I want, that are not apropriate for this forum. The hair on my neck is standing as I type this. My wife doesn't like this responce, but I am forever a warrior, and these Islamic "no bodies" are really not tolerable at all.... In my country at least. I want nothing more than to send them packing back to where they came from. Or send them to Alla, in a box. I know I am not alone either. I think there are many willing to fight this fight. History proves it.
Amen, brothers. They have to nothing to offer the US, despite Obozo's delusion that "Islam has always been a part of America's history". (Another one of those classic Peter Pan re-interpretations of his - If I wish it, it will be so.)
I guess kodimirpal found another forum to try and sell his B.S. Good riddance.
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