Did he just do that??

[ka64]

God I Love this Place!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[permafrost]

Originally Posted by Bobitis

The problem I have with the whole mess is that of who gets what.
The Jews have been there longer than the Muslims have. They simply want a place to call home and country. To live out their lives in peace.

I can't recall a time when Isreal went on the offensive, and tried to take more than what was accorded to them. They have thier country, and they defend it. DEFEND.

They retaliate when they've been attacked. It's been going on for all time. Muslims attack Jews, and the Jews fight back. I find that completely justifiable.

What Obie seems to have done is denegrate Isreals right for life/freedom into a UN/US imposed corner. I want no part of that.

Can anyone tell me why the US (obie) wants to make Isreal's nation smaller? Can anyone tell me what/who a Palestinian is? Where/when they came from? Why they should be given Isreali land?

If anything, we should keep our butts out of the matter alltogether.
Let them sort it out. Sit back and watch the outcome.

For some twisted reasons, we have taken it upon ourselves to police the world.
It's none of our business. We fought our battles here for our independance. North vs South. American blood, shead on American soil.

While I value freedom most highly, we are not here to play God in others matters.

I can tell you who they the Palestinians are. Mostly refugees from Jordan, Syria and surrounding countries who wouldn't let them return. Some desert nomads thrown in for good measure. Not a real people at all, if a history and culture define a nationality. They have none.

[Python]

Originally Posted by permafrost

I can tell you who they the Palestinians are. Mostly refugees from Jordan, Syria and surrounding countries who wouldn't let them return. Some desert nomads thrown in for good measure. Not a real people at all, if a history and culture define a nationality. They have none.

Your right on, there's never been a nation of Palestine or a Palestinian people. And again your right on, Israel told them that they did not have to leave, and when it was all over Israel welcomed them to return. It was the Arabs that threatened their lives if they were to return. Today we know why.

[jlloyd73]

He is an idiot.

It scares me that it doesn't look like any real good Conservative Republicans candidates are really stepping up to the plate.

[Marlin T]

If anything, we should send them a couple of B1Bs then keep our butts out of the matter alltogether.
Let them sort it out. Sit back and watch the outcome.

I agree with this statement now

[Python]

Originally Posted by jack404

and satan is the tour booking agent

Actually God is the "tour booking agent". Ezekiel 38:16... "And you will come up against My people Israel like a cloud to cover the land. It shall come about in the last days that I will bring you against My land, so that the nations may know Me when I am sanctified through you before their eyes". Israel & God, a majority of ONE.

(Ezekiel 38-39... Prophecy about the Invasion of Israel, coming very soon.)

[Redhand]

I support Israel and its people and our countrys efforts at covering their 6. With that being said, one must wonder WHY!!! American Jews primarily voted for the Messiah O-Bomb-Her. He might better reconsider his crossed up words and consider what the Jews did to the real one.

[Willie]

Originally Posted by Marlin T

I agree with this statement now

I agree too. Send them the Bone and teach them how to use it.

[ampaterry]

We taped Obozo's speech to AIPAC.
I wanted to hear the boo's when he got to the part where Israel should return to the 1967 borders.
He emphasized he would say what he REALLY said, and not what was REPORTED he said.
He said they should return to the 1967 borders WITH TRADE OFFS.
And that is true; that is what he said to Netanyahoo.
Then he elaborated on that, and said people did not understand what TRADE OFFS meant.
He said they meant the borders would NOT be what they were in 1967.

So, first they are 1967 borders, but when that caused a stink, they are NOT the 1967 borders.

Hey, Oboze!
If they are NOT to be the 1967 borders, why MENTION the 1967 borders?

Personally, I think they should go back to prior to the treaty with Egypt, and take in Sinai as well as Gaza, the West bank, and Jerusalem. Heck, take Jordan too -

[jack404]

Originally Posted by Python

Actually God is the "tour booking agent". Ezekiel 38:16... "And you will come up against My people Israel like a cloud to cover the land. It shall come about in the last days that I will bring you against My land, so that the nations may know Me when I am sanctified through you before their eyes". Israel & God, a majority of ONE.

(Ezekiel 38-39... Prophecy about the Invasion of Israel, coming very soon.)

I stand Corrected , Thanks mate!

its all there for the looking , i aint been looking good enough

cheers

[Double D]

The words that were uttered by the clown are the best words he has ever spoken. He hurt himself bad and fueled anyone that is going to run against him. I love it. Keep talking idiot!

[al45lc]

Originally Posted by ckill1

Israel hasnt attacked an Islamic nation without prevarication.

CK

Not true, the Six Day War was a surprise attack by Israel, by then International U.N. standards, it was unprovoked. This war damn near threw us into Global conflict as the Russians took great offense to it.

[Marlin T]

Originally Posted by al45lc

Not true, the Six Day War was a surprise attack by Israel, by then International U.N. standards, it was unprovoked. This war damn near threw us into Global conflict as the Russians took great offense to it.

http://www.zionism-israel.com/dic/6daywar.htm

[Warith]

I think and always have that we need to back Israel for all the reason said above.

But mostly couse I want that blessing not that curse for ME.

[graehaven]

Originally Posted by al45lc

Not true, the Six Day War was a surprise attack by Israel, by then International U.N. standards, it was unprovoked. This war damn near threw us into Global conflict as the Russians took great offense to it.

If I had 3 hostile neighbors lining up on 3 sides of my house with all their kin armed to the teeth, I'd shoot first too.

[jbmid1]

Originally Posted by al45lc

Not true, the Six Day War was a surprise attack by Israel, by then International U.N. standards, it was unprovoked. This war damn near threw us into Global conflict as the Russians took great offense to it.

The attempted destruction of an irrigation project, and closing of shipping lanes is not prevarication in your book?

[ampaterry]

Originally Posted by Marlin T

http://www.zionism-israel.com/dic/6daywar.htm

A very good re-cap of the situation, even to the point of showing Israels great RESTRAINT in not defending themselves much earlier in this period of increasing Arab hostility toward them. 120 terror attacks in 18 months! Good grief what did the Arabs EXPECT them to do?

[al45lc]

Originally Posted by jbmid1

The attempted destruction of an irrigation project, and closing of shipping lanes is not prevarication in your book?

As a member of the U.N., Israel was bound to seek peaceful means of settlement, and it was a surprise attack.
By your assessment, since the U.S. cut off Japanese oil and other goods, the surprise attack of Dec 7th on Pearl was 'just'.
I don't disagree that the Arabs had it coming, but U.N. members are required by their membership to formerly declare these attacks before hand, and since the U.N., worthless as they are, was working on these problems, it was 'unprovoked' by the standards of the Charter signed by Israel.
If any here honestly believe that Israel has never provoked attacks upon themselves they are seriously misinformed, The Israelies knew from the beginning they would need more territory and that they would have to fight for it. It's as much their land as any others who lay claim to it, and Nations as a whole are prone to fight for their survival when given no choice, as the Arabs have done with Israel. But the Israelies aren't angels, and they have done wrong to others, in what they term 'pre-emptive' strikes.
I call 'em as I see 'em.

[Juker]

Our policy with Israel should be: You are the chosen people, not us. We will stand with you unconditionally and give you our complete support. We will not attempt to tell you what we think you should do. We will not fund or negotiate with any nation or entity with hostile intentions towards you. An enemy of Israel is an enemy of the United States.

[graehaven]

Originally Posted by al45lc

As a member of the U.N., Israel was bound to seek peaceful means of settlement, and it was a surprise attack.
By your assessment, since the U.S. cut off Japanese oil and other goods, the surprise attack of Dec 7th on Pearl was 'just'.
I don't disagree that the Arabs had it coming, but U.N. members are required by their membership to formerly declare these attacks before hand, and since the U.N., worthless as they are, was working on these problems, it was 'unprovoked' by the standards of the Charter signed by Israel.
If any here honestly believe that Israel has never provoked attacks upon themselves they are seriously misinformed, The Israelies knew from the beginning they would need more territory and that they would have to fight for it. It's as much their land as any others who lay claim to it, and Nations as a whole are prone to fight for their survival when given no choice, as the Arabs have done with Israel. But the Israelies aren't angels, and they have done wrong to others, in what they term 'pre-emptive' strikes.
I call 'em as I see 'em.

"If the Arabs wanted the 1948 borders, then they shouldn’t have invaded Israel. For that matter, if they wanted the lands controlled after the 1967 war, then Egypt, Syria, and Jordan shouldn’t have plotted to attack Israel — an attack pre-empted by Israel’s strike against the Egyptians. Israel could have annexed those lands after the war, but they didn’t, although they built settlements in an attempt to change the demography. Israel doesn’t want to absorb the people living in the West Bank and Gaza for the same reason that the “right of return” is absolute anathema to Israel, because it would mean the end of Israel as a Jewish state. They’d probably prefer to give the West Bank back to Jordan, but Jordan won’t take it back, and for good reasons.

As Benjamin Netanyahu stated in his excellent speech today, the problem in the region isn’t that Israel won’t accept a Palestinian state. It’s that Hamas and Fatah won’t accept a Jewish state. They want to make the borders as impossible to defend as possible in order to use statehood as a stage to launch yet another existential attack on Israel. Israel is right to demand defensible borders based on the lessons learned from both 1948 and 1967, while Hamas reveals its intentions as exterminatory based on their demand for do-overs that ignore those lessons."
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/2...7-borders-too/

Fine, I'll call 'em as I see 'em too. You're flat out wrong.

[al45lc]

Originally Posted by graehaven

"If the Arabs wanted the 1948 borders, then they shouldn’t have invaded Israel. For that matter, if they wanted the lands controlled after the 1967 war, then Egypt, Syria, and Jordan shouldn’t have plotted to attack Israel — an attack pre-empted by Israel’s strike against the Egyptians. Israel could have annexed those lands after the war, but they didn’t, although they built settlements in an attempt to change the demography. Israel doesn’t want to absorb the people living in the West Bank and Gaza for the same reason that the “right of return” is absolute anathema to Israel, because it would mean the end of Israel as a Jewish state. They’d probably prefer to give the West Bank back to Jordan, but Jordan won’t take it back, and for good reasons.

As Benjamin Netanyahu stated in his excellent speech today, the problem in the region isn’t that Israel won’t accept a Palestinian state. It’s that Hamas and Fatah won’t accept a Jewish state. They want to make the borders as impossible to defend as possible in order to use statehood as a stage to launch yet another existential attack on Israel. Israel is right to demand defensible borders based on the lessons learned from both 1948 and 1967, while Hamas reveals its intentions as exterminatory based on their demand for do-overs that ignore those lessons."
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/2...7-borders-too/

Fine, I'll call 'em as I see 'em too. You're flat out wrong.

Please reread the post and specify where I'm wrong. Your defending the Israelies as though they have always been there and that land was always JUST theirs, nothing could be further from the truth.

[red14]

The body language tells it all in the picture. Net looks comfortable, alert,
has hands free, and legs are open. 0bama has legs crossed, while hands
are clenched, looks distraught and like he is holding in a fart.

The picture is in the article in post 10.

[Python]

Originally Posted by al45lc

Please reread the post and specify where I'm wrong. Your defending the Israelies as though they have always been there and that land was always JUST theirs, nothing could be further from the truth.

The Bible is the Word of God. The Bible is also an accurate historical document concerning Israel. Israel is God's personal property. In God's Covenant with Abraham, God gave the deed of ownership to Abraham and all of Abraham's descendants. The land was, is, and always will be JUST theirs. God is not a covenant breaker, He holds His word above His name. Israel will never again be removed from "their" land, we have God's word on it. That is an absolute truth.

[Juker]

The Palestinians will never honor any treaty with Israel or anyone else. They're scumbags and terrorists, the trash of the Middle East. Might as well negotiate with a den of rattlers.

[Python]

Originally Posted by Juker

The Palestinians will never honor any treaty with Israel or anyone else. They're scumbags and terrorists, the trash of the Middle East. Might as well negotiate with a den of rattlers.

Only at the second coming of Christ will there be PEACE. However, we know that a treaty will be signed, because it's the signing of this treaty that begins the Tribulation Period/70th Week of Daniel. This same treaty is the treaty that is broken (as usual) to determine the invasion of Israel referenced in Ezekiel 38-39.