FPS russia on youtube - The Firearms Forum

Wolf 5.7 · 05-21-2011, 02:17 AM

Maybe a bit off topic, maybe not. But this guy on youube is constantly firing new weapons that are fully automatic. And no he isn't russian. His original youtube name was FPSkyle. Just a few weeks ago he was firing a ACR on full auto. Another time it was a AA-12 on full auto. As I understand it, anything other than weapons made before 86 are not allowed to be automatic.

So how is he getting away with this? Other than the feds are lazy, or is there some loophole in the law that I don't know about?

permafrost · 05-21-2011, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolf 5.7

Maybe a bit off topic, maybe not. But this guy on youube is constantly firing new weapons that are fully automatic. And no he isn't russian. His original youtube name was FPSkyle. Just a few weeks ago he was firing a ACR on full auto. Another time it was a AA-12 on full auto. As I understand it, anything other than weapons made before 86 are not allowed to be automatic.

So how is he getting away with this? Other than the feds are lazy, or is there some loophole in the law that I don't know about?

I got in one of his videos that he works for a store or persons who sell them. That may be why he has such access. He's not Russian? I'm let down! He's at least entertaining.

Alpo · 05-21-2011, 08:19 AM

There are three types of automatic weapons in the US.

Transferable
Pre-86 Dealer Samples
Post-86 Dealer Samples

A "Transferable" gun can be sold to anyone (that can legally by a machine gun). They were all registered prior to May of 1986. Because there are only so many, and no more can be made, and people want them, prices have risen drastically. An MP5, which would have cost around 6 hundred dollars in February of '86 will cost around 20 thousand now.

"Dealer samples" are guns that are not transferable to us regular folk. They can only be transferred to machine gun dealers. Because there is a much smaller base of people they can be sold to, the prices are quite low (compared to transferable).

"Pre-86 Dealer Samples" cost more, because, if the dealer that owns one gives up his license, he can get this papered in his name, so he still owns it. I don't know if it then becomes "transferable", so that he could sell it, or leave it to someone in his will, or whether it would have to be turned in for destruction when he dies.

"Post-86 Dealer Samples" are the cheapest, because no one can own one, privately. If the dealer gives up his license, he must transfer this gun to another dealer. These are, theoretically, guns the dealer has to show to police, in the hope that the local cops will buy some. Most places that I'm aware of that have post-86 guns have them as their rental guns.

So, if this guy is shooting "new" machine guns, then he has access to post-86 dealer samples. Either owns or works in a store that sells machine guns.

Wolf 5.7 · 05-21-2011, 01:32 PM

Ok. Thank you Alpo.

05-21-2011, 02:17 AM	#1
Wolf 5.7 V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 68	FPS russia on youtube Maybe a bit off topic, maybe not. But this guy on youube is constantly firing new weapons that are fully automatic. And no he isn't russian. His original youtube name was FPSkyle. Just a few weeks ago he was firing a ACR on full auto. Another time it was a AA-12 on full auto. As I understand it, anything other than weapons made before 86 are not allowed to be automatic. So how is he getting away with this? Other than the feds are lazy, or is there some loophole in the law that I don't know about? -->

05-21-2011, 08:19 AM	#3
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,648	Re: FPS russia on youtube There are three types of automatic weapons in the US. Transferable Pre-86 Dealer Samples Post-86 Dealer Samples A "Transferable" gun can be sold to anyone (that can legally by a machine gun). They were all registered prior to May of 1986. Because there are only so many, and no more can be made, and people want them, prices have risen drastically. An MP5, which would have cost around 6 hundred dollars in February of '86 will cost around 20 thousand now. "Dealer samples" are guns that are not transferable to us regular folk. They can only be transferred to machine gun dealers. Because there is a much smaller base of people they can be sold to, the prices are quite low (compared to transferable). "Pre-86 Dealer Samples" cost more, because, if the dealer that owns one gives up his license, he can get this papered in his name, so he still owns it. I don't know if it then becomes "transferable", so that he could sell it, or leave it to someone in his will, or whether it would have to be turned in for destruction when he dies. "Post-86 Dealer Samples" are the cheapest, because no one can own one, privately. If the dealer gives up his license, he must transfer this gun to another dealer. These are, theoretically, guns the dealer has to show to police, in the hope that the local cops will buy some. Most places that I'm aware of that have post-86 guns have them as their rental guns. So, if this guy is shooting "new" machine guns, then he has access to post-86 dealer samples. Either owns or works in a store that sells machine guns. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

05-21-2011, 01:32 PM	#4
Wolf 5.7 V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 68	Re: FPS russia on youtube Ok. Thank you Alpo.