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Pustic · 05-12-2011, 02:56 AM

Are cap and ball revolvers considered muzzleloaders, or cylinder loaders? I'm just wondering.

jack404 · 05-12-2011, 03:07 AM

not dumb , i'd love a definitive answer too

i get told revolvers cant be muzzle loads but see em listed under such often

Pustic · 05-12-2011, 03:18 AM

Hey jack404,
If you want to buy one from a catalog, you go to the muzzleloader/blackpowder section, and like a loading a long rifle, you ram the ball home, the revolver just doesn't ram as far. So..., I don't know, I'll ponder on it for awhile until I fall to sleep. Thank you for your answer.

Pustic

hunter29180 · 05-12-2011, 06:06 AM

muzzleloaders are all "loaded" from the muzzel..BP revolvers are not muzzleloaders as their loads are loaded into a "revolving" cylinder. but both are BP. vendors just place both in the BP section, hence the muzzleloader/blackpowder sections.

also in revolvers you dont "ram" the ball home.. you "press" the ball home with the loading lever...

single shot BP pistols are usually a true muzzleloader though and you do "ram" the ball home...

Pustic · 05-12-2011, 08:41 PM

hunter29180
Well, I guess I can sleep tonight, now that I know. Thank you for your answer. Now I need to figure out if the roundball is a bullet or a projectile.

armedandsafe · 05-12-2011, 11:56 PM

A bullet is a projectile. Not all projectiles are bullets.

Pops

jack404 · 05-13-2011, 12:01 AM

a ball aint a bullet , when shot with others its shot bird shot grape shot etc ..

or so it says in this booklet here ..

Pustic · 05-16-2011, 12:37 AM

Well, it's a good thing I have no questions about blackpowder, huh.

ofitg · 05-16-2011, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by armedandsafe

A bullet is a projectile. Not all projectiles are bullets.

Pops

Now you got me wondering, what's the difference between a projectile and a missile?

Pustic · 05-23-2011, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armedandsafe

A bullet is a projectile. Not all projectiles are bullets.

Pops

Some projectiles are rocks, sticks, and feathers.

aquablue9081 · 05-23-2011, 01:23 AM

A projectile and a missile are the same except maybe in the conventional sense and not the 1800s or earlier, a misslie has a guidance system and downrange propulsion. Maybe. Who ****ing cares? All i know is I dont want to get hit by either lol

aquablue9081 · 05-23-2011, 01:24 AM

Ya i would call it a BP weapon, not a muzzleloader. Good Question

Pustic · 05-23-2011, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by aquablue9081

A projectile and a missile are the same except maybe in the conventional sense and not the 1800s or earlier, a misslie has a guidance system and downrange propulsion. Maybe. Who ****ing cares? All i know is I dont want to get hit by either lol

Then why is it when police fill out their report, they call a rock or brick thrown through a window a missile?

hunter29180 · 06-15-2011, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ofitg

Now you got me wondering, what's the difference between a projectile and a missile?

hope this confuses you as much as it does me!

The word missile usually now means a self-propelled guided weapon system, but it may refer to any thrown or launched object.

A projectile is any object projected into space (empty or not) by the exertion of a force. Although a thrown baseball is technically a projectile too, the term more commonly refers to a weapon

so is a bullet "launched" or "projected"?

carver · 06-15-2011, 03:49 PM

This is interesting! Or it would be if I could figgure it out!

todd51 · 06-15-2011, 07:27 PM

Hawg · 06-15-2011, 10:58 PM

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05-12-2011, 02:56 AM	#1
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05-12-2011, 03:07 AM	#2
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Just a dumb thought. not dumb , i'd love a definitive answer too i get told revolvers cant be muzzle loads but see em listed under such often

05-12-2011, 03:18 AM	#3
Pustic V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Western Kentucky Posts: 146	Re: Just a dumb thought. Hey jack404, If you want to buy one from a catalog, you go to the muzzleloader/blackpowder section, and like a loading a long rifle, you ram the ball home, the revolver just doesn't ram as far. So..., I don't know, I'll ponder on it for awhile until I fall to sleep. Thank you for your answer. Pustic __________________ No matter what they say or do, I will never surrender my guns. Am I paranoid? Nope, I'm heavily armed.

05-12-2011, 06:06 AM	#4
hunter29180 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: in a motorhome where ever we park! Contributor Posts: 1,625	Re: Just a dumb thought. muzzleloaders are all "loaded" from the muzzel..BP revolvers are not muzzleloaders as their loads are loaded into a "revolving" cylinder. but both are BP. vendors just place both in the BP section, hence the muzzleloader/blackpowder sections. also in revolvers you dont "ram" the ball home.. you "press" the ball home with the loading lever... single shot BP pistols are usually a true muzzleloader though and you do "ram" the ball home...

05-12-2011, 08:41 PM	#5
Pustic V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Western Kentucky Posts: 146	Re: Just a dumb thought. hunter29180 Well, I guess I can sleep tonight, now that I know. Thank you for your answer. Now I need to figure out if the roundball is a bullet or a projectile. __________________ No matter what they say or do, I will never surrender my guns. Am I paranoid? Nope, I'm heavily armed.

05-12-2011, 11:56 PM	#6
armedandsafe Former Guest Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Moses Lake, WA Posts: 10,344	Re: Just a dumb thought. A bullet is a projectile. Not all projectiles are bullets. Pops

05-13-2011, 12:01 AM	#7
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Just a dumb thought. a ball aint a bullet , when shot with others its shot bird shot grape shot etc .. or so it says in this booklet here .. Last edited by jack404; 05-13-2011 at 12:19 AM..

05-16-2011, 12:37 AM	#8
Pustic V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Western Kentucky Posts: 146	Re: Just a dumb thought. Well, it's a good thing I have no questions about blackpowder, huh. __________________ No matter what they say or do, I will never surrender my guns. Am I paranoid? Nope, I'm heavily armed.

05-23-2011, 01:23 AM	#11
aquablue9081 Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 12	Re: Just a dumb thought. A projectile and a missile are the same except maybe in the conventional sense and not the 1800s or earlier, a misslie has a guidance system and downrange propulsion. Maybe. Who ****ing cares? All i know is I dont want to get hit by either lol

05-23-2011, 01:24 AM	#12
aquablue9081 Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 12	Re: Just a dumb thought. Ya i would call it a BP weapon, not a muzzleloader. Good Question

06-15-2011, 03:49 PM	#15
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,221	Re: Just a dumb thought. This is interesting! Or it would be if I could figgure it out! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

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06-15-2011, 10:58 PM	#17
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