The Bible is pornographic?

[Marlin T]

I had to laugh when I read this story, then I realized that this isn't make believe.

Really? Come on, like the islam and all the things that it actively promotes isn't sick and depraved? Doing animals, letting them do you, necrophilia, pedophilia, .... THIS ISN'T PORNOGRAPHIC?

Enough from me; sick SOBs anyways.
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Christians rebut Bible ‘pornography’ claim
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Published Date: June 2, 2011

Tags: Bible, Muslim organisation, pornography, World Minorities Alliance
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Christian politicians and Church leaders June 2 strongly condemned allegations made by a Muslim organisation of “pornography” in the Bible.

Julius Salik, convener of World Minorities Alliance and a former federal minister, said it was an injustice to Christians and a violation of their religious freedom.

“The undue interference in our religious matters would cause disputes and discord among the followers of both religions”, he stated in a press statement.

A religious political party is seeking redress for what it claims is “pornographic” content in the Bible.

Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam appealed to the Supreme Court of Pakistan to examine “blasphemous materials” in the Bible during a press conference on May 30 in Lahore.

Party leader Maulana Abdul Rauf Farooqi and other clerics quoted “immoral Biblical stories” and stated that “such insertions strongly offend Muslims, who hold all prophets and holy books in high esteem as part of religious belief and never even think of committing any blasphemy against them.”

There were no chances of any clash between the two religions as long as the courts are functioning, said Farooqi. “Our lawyers are preparing to ask the court to ban the book; we will not follow in the footsteps of Terry Jones and burn the holy book”, he said.

The Church in Pakistan, and the rest of the world, condemned Pastor Terry Jones of Florida for ordering the burning a Qur’an more than two months ago. However the aftermath continues as Church leaders feared.

“These are attempts to wage crusades”, said Father James Channan, regional coordinator for the United Religious Initiative.

He termed the clerics’ demand a “strong blow to Christians” in the country. “It’s a degrading move. We shall defend our manual for life at every level. The supreme court cannot head to such madness.”

“Nobody in the world can judge the Bible. It’s a mad response to an equally mad act done by an individual”, said Bishop Timotheus Nasir, head of the United Presbyterian Church.

Source: ucanews.com

[jack404]

so islam says having sex with dead people and animals is ok , and shows how to make that clean ( including where to sell the meat of what you just had sex with )

how to "thigh" 3 year old girls ( and boys)

and they call the Bible porn?

where is this mutt ? i know it says pakistan but its a big place

where exactly is this mutt , how many wives does he have
and does he know he's a member of a false cult with a fake prophet who made it all up to grow his criminal gang ?
and does he realise that we have the answer to that cults power

Christ has Risen ( despite what islam says)

moo ham odd was cut up and spread about so he could not be a distraction to the next group of leaders but that just started 100 + years of war and conflict to decide who was the legal follower of moo ham odd , and guess who won?

none of moo ham odd's family as they where all wiped out in the wars , but many claim to be decended but thats impossible

Islam is a giant lie created by satan to subvert people away from the true God

end of story

[Juker]

Amen, Brother Jack, I can't add a thing to your post, you said it all!

[308 at my gate]

Well I read the claims but where is the proof. Any body can make things up and take things out of context so where is the proof. In the book of Revelation it talks about the anti-christ who will behead people who do not conform. Well there is only one group of people I know of who does that today.

[jack404]

for those who .like to stick it to the dhummies


The outline below contains the very answers to the very questions Muhammad did not want his followers to know, namely that Islam is a sanitized version of ancient polytheistic moon worship which he invented to exercise military control.



Does the Qur’an define the word "Allah"? No.
Was the name "Allah" revealed for the first time in the Qur’an? No
Does the Qur’an assume that its readers have already heard of "Allah"? Yes
Should we look into pre-Islamic Arabian history to see who "Allah" was before Muhammad? Yes.
According to Muslim tradition, was Muhammad born into a Christian family and tribe? No
Was he born into a Jewish family or tribe? No
What religion was his family and tribe? Pagans
What was the name of his pagan father? Abdullah (Abd + Allah)
Did Muhammad participate in the pagan ceremonies of Mecca? Yes
Did the Arabs in pre-Islamic times worship 360 gods? Yes
Did the pagans Arabs worship the sun, moon and the stars? Yes
Did the Arabs built temples to the Moon-god? Yes
Did different Arab tribes give the Moon-god different names/titles? Yes
What were some of the names/titles? Sin, Hubul, Ilumquh, Al-ilah.
Was the title "al-ilah" (the god) used of the Moon-god? Yes
Was the word "Allah" derived from "al-ilah?" Yes
Was the pagan "Allah" a high god in a pantheon of deities? Yes.
Was he worshipped at the Kabah? Yes.
Was Allah only one of many Meccan gods? Yes
Did they place a statue of Hubul on top of the Kabah? Yes.
At that time was Hubul considered the Moon-god? Yes.
Was the Kabah thus the "house of the Moon-god"? Yes.
Did the name "Allah" eventually replace that of Hubul as the name of the Moon god? Yes.
Did they call the Kabah the "house of Allah"? Yes
Did the pagans develop religious rites in connection with the worship of their gods? Yes.
Did the pagans practice the Pilgrimage, the Fast of Ramadan, running around the Kabah seven times, kissing the black stone, shaving the head, animal sacrifices, running up and down two hills, throwing stones at the devil, snorting water in and out the nose, praying several times a day toward Mecca, giving alms, Friday prayers, etc.? Yes.
Did Muhammad command his followers to participate in these pagan ceremonies while the pagans were still in control of Mecca? Yes (Yusuf Ali, fn. 214, pg. 78).
Did Islam go on to adopt these pagan religious rites? Yes. (Yusuf Ali: fn. 223 pg. 80).
Were al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat called "the daughters of Allah"? Yes.
Did the Qur’an at one point tell Muslims to worship al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat? Yes. In Surah 53:19-20.
Have those verses been "abrogated" out of the present Qur’an? Yes.
What were they called? "The Satanic Verses." Yes.
Was the crescent moon an ancient pagan symbol of the Moon-god throughout the ancient world? Yes.
Was it the religious symbol of the Moon-god in Arabia? Yes
Were stars also used as pagan symbols of the daughers of Allah? Yes
Did the Jews or the Christians of Arabia use the crescent moon with several stars next to it as symbols of their faith? No
Did Islam adopt the pagan crescent moon and stars as it religious symbol? Yes.
As Islam developed over the centuries, did it adopt pagan names, pagan ceremonies, pagan temples and pagan symbols? Yes
Is it possible that most Muslims do not know the pagan sources of the symbols and rites of their own religion? Yes.
Are they shocked to find out the true sources of their ceremonies and stories? Yes

Can Islam be the religion of Abraham if it is derived from paganism? No

What then is Islam? A modern version of one of the ancient fertility cults.

Is the "Allah" of the Qur’an, the Christian God of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit? No

Do the Jews say that the Muslim "Allah" is their God too? No

Then whose god is Allah? Paganism

[308 at my gate]

I saved that one Jack for future reference.

[Marlin T]

Who is calling what pornographic?
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Muslim Woman Seeks to Revive Institution of Sex-Slavery

Posted by Raymond Ibrahim on Jun 8th, 2011
Raymond Ibrahim is associate director of the Middle East Forum and author of The Al Qaeda Reader. He is also the editor of The Muslim Persecution of Christians blog featured at FrontPageMag.com



Last week witnessed popular Muslim preacher Abu Ishaq al-Huwaini boast about how Islam allows Muslims to buy and sell conquered infidel women, so that “When I want a sex-slave, I go to the market and pick whichever female I desire and buy her.”
This week’s depraved anachronism comes from a Muslim woman—Salwa al-Mutairi, a political activist and former parliamentary candidate for Kuwait’s government, no less: She, too, seeks to “revive the institution of sex-slavery.”
A brief English report appeared over the weekend in the Kuwait Times (nothing, of course, in the MSM):

Muslim men who fear being seduced or tempted into immoral behavior by the beauty of their female servants, or even of those servants “casting spells” on them, would be better to purchase women from an “enslaved maid” agency for sexual purposes. She [Mutairi] suggested that special offices could be set up to provide concubines in the same way as domestic staff recruitment agencies currently provide housemaids. “We want our youth to be protected from adultery,” said al-Mutairi, suggesting that these maids could be brought as prisoners of war in war-stricken nations like Chechnya to be sold on later to devout merchants.

The Arabic news website, Al Arabiya, has the sordid details, including a video of Mutairi addressing this topic. I summarize and translate various excerpts below (note: I am not making any of this up):
The Kuwaiti female activist begins by insisting that “it’s of course true” that “the prophet of Islam legitimized sex-slavery.” She recounts how when she was in Mecca, Islam’s holiest city, she asked various sheikhs and muftis (learned, authoritative Muslims) about the legality of sex-slavery according to Sharia: they all confirmed it to be perfectly legal; Kuwaiti ulema further pointed out that extra “virile” men—Western synonyms include “sex-crazed,” “lecherous,” “perverted”—would do well to purchase sex-slaves to sate their appetites without sinning.
Here’s a particularly interesting excerpt from her taped speech on the rules governing sex-slaves:

A Muslim state must [first] attack a Christian state—sorry, I mean any non-Muslim state—and they [the women, the future sex-slaves] must be captives of the raid. Is this forbidden? Not at all; according to Islam, sex slaves are not at all forbidden. Quite the contrary, the rules regulating sex-slaves differ from those for free women [i.e., Muslim women]: the latter’s body must be covered entirely, except for her face and hands, whereas the sex-slave is kept naked from the bellybutton on up—she is different from the free woman; the free woman has to be married properly to her husband, but the sex-slave—he just buys her and that’s that.

She went on to offer concrete suggestions: “For example, in the Chechnyan war, surely there are female Russian captives. So go and buy those and sell them here in Kuwait; better that than have our men engage in forbidden sexual relations. I don’t see any problem in this, no problem at all.”

Mutairi suggests the enslaved girls be at least 15 years-old.
She further justified the institution of sex-slavery by evoking 8th century caliph, Harun Rashid—a name some may recall from Arabian Nights bedtime stories; a name some may be surprised to discover politically active Muslims modeling their lives after:
“And the greatest example we have is Harun al-Rashid: when he died, he had 2,000 sex slaves—so it’s okay, nothing wrong with it.”
Mutairi’s rationale is ultimately guided by a sense of efficiency, a desire for the good of society: legalizing sex-slaves helps prevent Muslim men from transgressing Allah’s laws (as we have seen, extramarital relations with fellow Muslim women is strictly forbidden, but not with infidel sex-slaves, since they are scarcely considered human). Thus, the institution of sex-slavery provides a convenient, Sharia-compliant way of satiating the libidinous urges of Muslim men.
The Kuwaiti activist’s blunt approach also has universal parallels. For example, in the West, some seek to legalize marijuana, arguing that, since people use it anyway, let it be made compliant with the law. In the Muslim world, we have those who seek to legalize sex-slavery, arguing that, since Muslim men will use women anyway, let it be made compliant with Sharia law.
Such are the inevitable differences between the Western mindset (based on reason and universal rights) and the Sharia mindset (based on the life of a 7th century Arabian caravan-raider and slave-trader).
Mutairi concluded by piously supplicating Allah: “Oh I truly wish this for Kuwait, Allah willing—Oh Lord, Lord, you are bountiful…”
While she waits, Mutairi can take solace in the fact that, if sex-slavery is not institutionalized in Kuwait, it thrives underground throughout the Muslim world, where non-Muslim girls—mostly Christians—are routinely abducted, enslaved, and forced into lives of unspeakable degradation.
After all, just because a practice is not formally institutionalized does not mean that those who deem it their divine right are not practicing it.

[jack404]

yeah lot's of stuff folks think pornographic or obscene




guess someone thought this obscene too and tore it .. what cranky old bugger would do something like that eh ?

hahahahahahahahahahaha

[Marlin T]

That is perfect.

[jack404]

only the lie was damaged .. so whats the harm ? its just correction ..

[graehaven]

Pornographic? No.

Rated R - certainly.

Are the points about it presented by these muslims accurate? No.

[Gun Geezer]

I dunno, they could be right. I read in the Bible where Moses tied his ass to a tree and walked forty miles. I wasn't aware skin could stretch that far.

[whymememe]

Originally Posted by jack404

for those who .like to stick it to the dhummies


The outline below contains the very answers to the very questions Muhammad did not want his followers to know, namely that Islam is a sanitized version of ancient polytheistic moon worship which he invented to exercise military control.



Does the Qur’an define the word "Allah"? No.
Was the name "Allah" revealed for the first time in the Qur’an? No
Does the Qur’an assume that its readers have already heard of "Allah"? Yes
Should we look into pre-Islamic Arabian history to see who "Allah" was before Muhammad? Yes.
According to Muslim tradition, was Muhammad born into a Christian family and tribe? No
Was he born into a Jewish family or tribe? No
What religion was his family and tribe? Pagans
What was the name of his pagan father? Abdullah (Abd + Allah)
Did Muhammad participate in the pagan ceremonies of Mecca? Yes
Did the Arabs in pre-Islamic times worship 360 gods? Yes
Did the pagans Arabs worship the sun, moon and the stars? Yes
Did the Arabs built temples to the Moon-god? Yes
Did different Arab tribes give the Moon-god different names/titles? Yes
What were some of the names/titles? Sin, Hubul, Ilumquh, Al-ilah.
Was the title "al-ilah" (the god) used of the Moon-god? Yes
Was the word "Allah" derived from "al-ilah?" Yes
Was the pagan "Allah" a high god in a pantheon of deities? Yes.
Was he worshipped at the Kabah? Yes.
Was Allah only one of many Meccan gods? Yes
Did they place a statue of Hubul on top of the Kabah? Yes.
At that time was Hubul considered the Moon-god? Yes.
Was the Kabah thus the "house of the Moon-god"? Yes.
Did the name "Allah" eventually replace that of Hubul as the name of the Moon god? Yes.
Did they call the Kabah the "house of Allah"? Yes
Did the pagans develop religious rites in connection with the worship of their gods? Yes.
Did the pagans practice the Pilgrimage, the Fast of Ramadan, running around the Kabah seven times, kissing the black stone, shaving the head, animal sacrifices, running up and down two hills, throwing stones at the devil, snorting water in and out the nose, praying several times a day toward Mecca, giving alms, Friday prayers, etc.? Yes.
Did Muhammad command his followers to participate in these pagan ceremonies while the pagans were still in control of Mecca? Yes (Yusuf Ali, fn. 214, pg. 78).
Did Islam go on to adopt these pagan religious rites? Yes. (Yusuf Ali: fn. 223 pg. 80).
Were al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat called "the daughters of Allah"? Yes.
Did the Qur’an at one point tell Muslims to worship al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat? Yes. In Surah 53:19-20.
Have those verses been "abrogated" out of the present Qur’an? Yes.
What were they called? "The Satanic Verses." Yes.
Was the crescent moon an ancient pagan symbol of the Moon-god throughout the ancient world? Yes.
Was it the religious symbol of the Moon-god in Arabia? Yes
Were stars also used as pagan symbols of the daughers of Allah? Yes
Did the Jews or the Christians of Arabia use the crescent moon with several stars next to it as symbols of their faith? No
Did Islam adopt the pagan crescent moon and stars as it religious symbol? Yes.
As Islam developed over the centuries, did it adopt pagan names, pagan ceremonies, pagan temples and pagan symbols? Yes
Is it possible that most Muslims do not know the pagan sources of the symbols and rites of their own religion? Yes.
Are they shocked to find out the true sources of their ceremonies and stories? Yes

Can Islam be the religion of Abraham if it is derived from paganism? No

What then is Islam? A modern version of one of the ancient fertility cults.

Is the "Allah" of the Qur’an, the Christian God of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit? No

Do the Jews say that the Muslim "Allah" is their God too? No

Then whose god is Allah? Paganism

Is religion without text or scripture pagan?

[whymememe]

Eating the flesh and drinking the blood of the Saviour. Is what?

[jack404]

no, it is the manner of worship that would define paganism

even some so called "Christian group" would be classed as pagan

the Christian wiccians and earth worshipers for one

the Christian folks i met in Somalia had no bibles for over 20 years but still carried on as best they could , hunted as they where , men got their children to recite verses so they remembered , in a village they could put together folks who could remember the books of Matthew Mark Luke and John .. these folks where Christian ,

no text .. just love and memories of a time when they could worship openly without being hunted by the jan juwei ( islamic horsemen and camel men who hunt them and kill them every chance they get )

when we gathered up our bibles and gave them to them the first thing they did was set up a reading class to teach themselve more as they knew they'd lose the books soon enough , the islamists would see to that

[HunterAlpha1]

so why don't the somalian Christians fight back? oh, right, gun control...

[Caneman]

lots of folks getting busy in the good book

[jack404]

actually they have been fighting back , but we been helping the islamists , so theres only about 40,000 Christians living in Dhimmitude left .. and this is going down by 3-4 THOUSAND a year Dhimmitude is not safe .. no matter what they say

[HunterAlpha1]

Originally Posted by jack404

actually they have been fighting back , but we been helping the islamists , so theres only about 40,000 Christians living in Dhimmitude left .. and this is going down by 3-4 THOUSAND a year Dhimmitude is not safe .. no matter what they say

it's good to hear the Christians are taking up arms, i wish someone would help them.

[jack404]

we did until the UN said no more

thats what we where doing there until the UN said "out"

now we help the "government" meaning those who took over by force

you folks where there too , same deal

[whymememe]

There have been Crusades and Crusaders since the time of Constantine. I'd like to believe I am one.

[HunterAlpha1]

Originally Posted by whymememe

There have been Crusades and Crusaders since the time of Constantine. I'd like to believe I am one.

i wish i could be one too. could load up a couple ships with guns, supplies, and troops and head on over their and help the Somalian Christians