NBC & The U.S. Open: Pledge of Allegiance - The Firearms Forum

Juker · 06-19-2011, 02:07 PM

Hmmm.... Do you know the Pledge of Allegiance?

Maybe you can figure out what's missing from this Pledge of Allegiance montage put together by NBC for the U.S. Open...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-S8K_jQAsw

IMPORTANT NOTE: This link (and the issue therein) was sent to me in an email. My sharing it here does not imply any endorsement of NBC, its affiliates or subsidiaries, golf, the U.S. Open, television, youtube, or any firecrackers that may appear anywhere in the video.

RunningOnMT · 06-19-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Juker

Hmmm.... Do you know the Pledge of Allegiance?

Maybe you can figure out what's missing from this Pledge of Allegiance montage put together by NBC for the U.S. Open...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-S8K_jQAsw

IMPORTANT NOTE: This link (and the issue therein) was sent to me in an email. My sharing it here does not imply any endorsement of NBC, its affiliates or subsidiaries, golf, the U.S. Open, television, youtube, or any firecrackers that may appear anywhere in the video.

The progressives are attempting (and succeeding) to transform America into a Godless, socialist utopia. To continue their agenda it is necessary to destroy the belief, reverence for, and faith in, almighty God and the concept of liberty and justice instilled by that faith in Christians and Jews.

"Under God" was a necessary phrase in the pledge because without God there is no liberty nor justice. Whether or not individual progressives are atheist doesn't matter as long as they go along with the notion that acknowledging God in public affairs is inappropriate.

It is my belief that things will never truly get better in the world or our country until Christ's return. We are speeding headlong toward Armageddon and all we can do is resist as much as we can and hold onto those values and beliefs with which most of us were raised.

Marlin T · 06-19-2011, 03:40 PM

I expect nothing less than that coming from the whitehouse owned NBC. They both have one thing in common though, they are both Anti American.

doakster · 06-19-2011, 04:06 PM

Why not do something about it??
Pick up the phone and get it fixed.
Or get a pen and write a letter.
Last but not least we do have our firearms.....lets lock and load!!!!

Bobitis · 06-19-2011, 04:27 PM

I rate youtube below snopes.

It's a free for all, and anything goes.

While it doesn't suprise me that any MSM outlet would stoop to this level, it also comes as no suprise that some other idiot would manufacture this kinda tripe.

The www is ripe for misinformation.

Juker · 06-19-2011, 05:13 PM

Looks legit.

But it's all good. NBC has apologized.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...gtbH_blog.html

Bobitis · 06-19-2011, 05:54 PM

Imagine that?

Recant when you're called on the carpet.

Juker · 06-19-2011, 05:58 PM

LOL

To quote the ubiquitous Ms. Spears: "ooooops, they did it again..."

Old Guy · 06-19-2011, 08:40 PM

I was watching and it got my attention right away. I am glad that enough rancor was raised to call their hand. However this just simply plays into the liberal socialist pattern. They will do it over and over until they do not hear enough complaints if that is possible.

Gun Geezer · 06-19-2011, 08:48 PM

The problem is, the Pledge as it is taught in school is just a bunch of words. Not enough time or effort is spent making sure everyone understands and appreciates the true meaning of the words otherwise it's like learning to sing songs in another language. You say all the words and they are meaningless. Listen to the late,great Red Skelton say the Pledge and explain each and every sentence. It should be required of every American!

Hatch · 06-19-2011, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doakster

Why not do something about it??
Pick up the phone and get it fixed.
Or get a pen and write a letter.
Last but not least we do have our firearms.....lets lock and load!!!!

To quote Claire Wolf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claire_Wolf

"America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards"

hogger129 · 06-19-2011, 09:58 PM

Wow... Just wow...

What is the point of taking God out of everything? It's not like there's a law that says they have to respect God.

But I also thought the law said they couldn't stop me from respecting God.

Idk maybe I'm just getting old but I said "Under God" in school, and I graduated in 2005.

lawdawg · 06-20-2011, 10:48 AM

The 1st amendment grants us freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. There is a difference. The separation of church and state, though not a term used in the constitution, was a phrase used by Thomas Jefferson and others. It was meant to keep the government from meddling in church affairs moreso than the church meddling in governmental affairs. It seems some in our country takes the opposite view and thinks the 1st amendment means that any mention of God is forbidden in public, and is an assault on their rights if mentioned, or worshiped in public. This was NEVER the intention of the framers of the constitution, and their individual writings comfirm this.

The very wording: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ", says it very plainly. It, like the rest of the Bill of Rights, is a restriction placed on government, not the people. It is sad that we have allowed our rights to be eroded by certain members of our society.

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Juker · 06-20-2011, 11:36 AM

Well said.

cutter · 06-20-2011, 01:19 PM

A+ for Gun Geezer!!! Red Skelton explained the Pledge in a way that I will never forget!!! Like you said everyone should listen to it!

RunningOnMT · 06-20-2011, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lawdawg

The 1st amendment grants us freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. There is a difference. The separation of church and state, though not a term used in the constitution, was a phrase used by Thomas Jefferson and others. It was meant to keep the government from meddling in church affairs moreso than the church meddling in governmental affairs. It seems some in our country takes the opposite view and thinks the 1st amendment means that any mention of God is forbidden in public, and is an assault on their rights if mentioned, or worshiped in public. This was NEVER the intention of the framers of the constitution, and their individual writings comfirm this.

The very wording: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ", says it very plainly. It, like the rest of the Bill of Rights, is a restriction placed on government, not the people. It is sad that we have allowed our rights to be eroded by certain members of our society.

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Steel on target once again lawdawg.

Inthewind1976 · 06-21-2011, 04:55 AM

Right on Cutter! Red Skelton's explanation of the pledge IS excellent.

The separation of church and state was also intended to clarify that no "official government religion" of the United States (think Church of England) would ever be established. The separation of church and state was never intended to mean that the 10 commandments, or the "under God" in the pledge was to be "eliminated from places of government or public education." It has been bastardized to the n-th degree.

langenc · 06-27-2011, 10:48 PM

As far as the "In God We Trust" on coinage and currency goes--

a pharmacists I worked for a LONG time ago added to that:

"ALL OTHERS PAY CASH."

The whole country would be better off if we had many more cash customers and not so many plastic ones.

06-19-2011, 02:07 PM	#1
Juker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Land of Lincoln Contributor Posts: 2,872	NBC & The U.S. Open: Pledge of Allegiance Hmmm.... Do you know the Pledge of Allegiance? Maybe you can figure out what's missing from this Pledge of Allegiance montage put together by NBC for the U.S. Open... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-S8K_jQAsw IMPORTANT NOTE: This link (and the issue therein) was sent to me in an email. My sharing it here does not imply any endorsement of NBC, its affiliates or subsidiaries, golf, the U.S. Open, television, youtube, or any firecrackers that may appear anywhere in the video. __________________ SHOOT FIRST. SHOOT SECOND. MOST IMPORTANTLY, BE THE MAN WHO'S SHOOTING LAST. --> Last edited by Juker; 06-19-2011 at 02:16 PM..

06-19-2011, 03:40 PM	#3
Marlin T Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,857	Re: NBC & The U.S. Open: Pledge of Allegiance I expect nothing less than that coming from the whitehouse owned NBC. They both have one thing in common though, they are both Anti American. __________________ "But the simple truth--born of experience--is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people." Judge Alex Kozinski - United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. - Thomas Paine Did you read todays GOOD shooting? >>>KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM <<<

06-19-2011, 04:06 PM	#4
doakster Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: pflugerville tx Posts: 1	Re: NBC & The U.S. Open: Pledge of Allegiance Why not do something about it?? Pick up the phone and get it fixed. Or get a pen and write a letter. Last but not least we do have our firearms.....lets lock and load!!!!

06-19-2011, 04:27 PM	#5
Bobitis Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,612	Re: NBC & The U.S. Open: Pledge of Allegiance I rate youtube below snopes. It's a free for all, and anything goes. While it doesn't suprise me that any MSM outlet would stoop to this level, it also comes as no suprise that some other idiot would manufacture this kinda tripe. The www is ripe for misinformation. __________________ ^.^ A point in every direction is the same as having no point at all

06-19-2011, 05:13 PM	#6
Juker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Land of Lincoln Contributor Posts: 2,872	Re: NBC & The U.S. Open: Pledge of Allegiance Looks legit. But it's all good. NBC has apologized. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...gtbH_blog.html __________________ SHOOT FIRST. SHOOT SECOND. MOST IMPORTANTLY, BE THE MAN WHO'S SHOOTING LAST.

06-19-2011, 05:54 PM	#7
Bobitis Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,612	Re: NBC & The U.S. Open: Pledge of Allegiance Imagine that? Recant when you're called on the carpet. __________________ ^.^ A point in every direction is the same as having no point at all

06-19-2011, 05:58 PM	#8
Juker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Land of Lincoln Contributor Posts: 2,872	Re: NBC & The U.S. Open: Pledge of Allegiance LOL To quote the ubiquitous Ms. Spears: "ooooops, they did it again..." __________________ SHOOT FIRST. SHOOT SECOND. MOST IMPORTANTLY, BE THE MAN WHO'S SHOOTING LAST.

06-19-2011, 08:40 PM	#9
Old Guy V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Beaufort County, NC Contributor Posts: 343	Re: NBC & The U.S. Open: Pledge of Allegiance I was watching and it got my attention right away. I am glad that enough rancor was raised to call their hand. However this just simply plays into the liberal socialist pattern. They will do it over and over until they do not hear enough complaints if that is possible. __________________ Old Guy ___________ NRA Life Member GOA Life Member

06-19-2011, 08:48 PM	#10
Gun Geezer Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,710	Re: NBC & The U.S. Open: Pledge of Allegiance The problem is, the Pledge as it is taught in school is just a bunch of words. Not enough time or effort is spent making sure everyone understands and appreciates the true meaning of the words otherwise it's like learning to sing songs in another language. You say all the words and they are meaningless. Listen to the late,great Red Skelton say the Pledge and explain each and every sentence. It should be required of every American!

06-19-2011, 09:58 PM	#12
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,069	Re: NBC & The U.S. Open: Pledge of Allegiance Wow... Just wow... What is the point of taking God out of everything? It's not like there's a law that says they have to respect God. But I also thought the law said they couldn't stop me from respecting God. Idk maybe I'm just getting old but I said "Under God" in school, and I graduated in 2005. __________________ Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can."

06-20-2011, 10:48 AM	#13
lawdawg V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: South Alabama Posts: 268	Re: NBC & The U.S. Open: Pledge of Allegiance The 1st amendment grants us freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. There is a difference. The separation of church and state, though not a term used in the constitution, was a phrase used by Thomas Jefferson and others. It was meant to keep the government from meddling in church affairs moreso than the church meddling in governmental affairs. It seems some in our country takes the opposite view and thinks the 1st amendment means that any mention of God is forbidden in public, and is an assault on their rights if mentioned, or worshiped in public. This was NEVER the intention of the framers of the constitution, and their individual writings comfirm this. The very wording: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ", says it very plainly. It, like the rest of the Bill of Rights, is a restriction placed on government, not the people. It is sad that we have allowed our rights to be eroded by certain members of our society. --- __________________ Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774_1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764

06-20-2011, 11:36 AM	#14
Juker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Land of Lincoln Contributor Posts: 2,872	Re: NBC & The U.S. Open: Pledge of Allegiance Well said. Attached Images __________________ SHOOT FIRST. SHOOT SECOND. MOST IMPORTANTLY, BE THE MAN WHO'S SHOOTING LAST.

06-20-2011, 01:19 PM	#15
cutter Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 632	Re: NBC & The U.S. Open: Pledge of Allegiance A+ for Gun Geezer!!! Red Skelton explained the Pledge in a way that I will never forget!!! Like you said everyone should listen to it!

06-21-2011, 04:55 AM	#17
Inthewind1976 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Central Pennsylvania Posts: 533	Re: NBC & The U.S. Open: Pledge of Allegiance Right on Cutter! Red Skelton's explanation of the pledge IS excellent. The separation of church and state was also intended to clarify that no "official government religion" of the United States (think Church of England) would ever be established. The separation of church and state was never intended to mean that the 10 commandments, or the "under God" in the pledge was to be "eliminated from places of government or public education." It has been bastardized to the n-th degree.

06-27-2011, 10:48 PM	#18
langenc V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Montmorency Co, MI Posts: 418	Re: NBC & The U.S. Open: Pledge of Allegiance As far as the "In God We Trust" on coinage and currency goes-- a pharmacists I worked for a LONG time ago added to that: "ALL OTHERS PAY CASH." The whole country would be better off if we had many more cash customers and not so many plastic ones.