New "Gun Safety" Rules Are Coming ....... - The Firearms Forum

JohnHenry · 07-08-2011, 06:12 PM

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...giffords_n.htm

hogger129 · 07-08-2011, 09:39 PM

So they change the name from "gun control" to "gun safety." Just like instead of calling themselves socialists, they call themselves liberals. Same $h!+, different name.

Hatch · 07-10-2011, 07:00 PM

I'm curious... here's what the two mayors are quoted as saying in the article...

Boston Mayor Thomas Menino and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, sent Obama a letter calling him to act.

"To prevent the next Tucson, we need a comprehensive background check system, which is what the president called for in April," said the director of the mayors' group, Mark Glaze. "That said, there are many steps the president can take on his own authority, without new laws, that could make a very real difference."

And yet... when was JL first diagnosed with mental issues? His parents probably wont say, but obviously it was before 18. Did he abuse small animals? that is a hallmark tell tale sign of mental disorder. Wasnt there some kind of animal thing in his backyard? I did a quick search on his name but didnt see anything, but I could swear that I saw something from the original arrest and incident articles.

How long did JL the obvious psycho own guns? more laws? really? because a background check via phone like CA which requires 10 days waiting period regardless of passing the background check as opposed to AZ which allows you to pass background check by phone and go home with the gun. If he owned that gun for more than 11+ days, I'd like them to explain to me how their laws have helped anyone involved? All they do is prohibit victims from defending themselves and infringe on our constitutional rights.

And lets not lose track of why JL fixated on her in the first place... at one time in another encounter, he asked her a question, which she couldnt or chose not to address as sensible, so she started replying to him in Enspanol...

She dismissed a constituent out of hand
She dismissed the entire LATINO community out of hand, by babbling in Spanish as an intentional insult to JL, but you dont see that in the news!
She is a democrat
He is a liberal

And they want to come tell us about gun law problems? How about... NO.

Did she "deserve" to get shot in the head for her answer to JL? No... punched in the mouth? maybe..., even that is still assault though. She was rude, arrogant and dismissive. And she did it intentionally, to the very definition of the "wrong person"! You reap what you sow.

armedandsafe · 07-12-2011, 02:10 PM

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Another story on this subject.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...s-in-u-s-.html

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U.S. Border Gun Stores Required to Alert Authorities After Some Arms Sales
By Justin Blum - Jul 11, 2011 2:57 PM PT .

Gun sellers in states on the U.S.- Mexico border will have to report to the federal government if a customer buys two or more semiautomatic rifles over five days that are greater than .22 caliber and include a detachable magazine.

The regulation will improve the government’s ability to detect illegal weapons-trafficking networks that divert firearms to criminals, said Deputy Attorney General James Cole in a statement today.

“The international expansion and increased violence of transnational criminal networks pose a significant threat to the United States,” Cole said. The requirement will help “confront the problem of illegal gun trafficking into Mexico and along the Southwest border.”

The reporting requirement, part of a one-year-pilot program, will affect about 8,500 gun sellers in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas, said a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives official, who spoke on condition of anonymity and wasn’t authorized to discuss the matter. They will be required to report the purchases to the ATF within 24 hours, the official said.

The ATF has been facing congressional criticism over an operation called Fast and Furious that allowed guns to be illegally purchased in the U.S. The operation was an effort by the U.S. to track illegal shipments to Mexico and link the guns to Mexican drug cartels.

Senator Charles Grassley, an Iowa Republican who has been investigating the ATF operation, criticized the reporting requirement.

“We’ve learned from our investigation of Fast and Furious that reporting multiple long-gun sales would do nothing to stop the flow of firearms to known straw purchasers because many federal firearms dealers are already voluntarily reporting suspicious transactions,” Grassley said in a statement. The policy is a “distraction” from the administration’s “reckless policy to allow guns to walk into Mexico,” Grassley said.

To contact the reporter on this story: Justin Blum in Washington at jblum4@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Mark Silva at msilva34@bloomberg.net

graehaven · 07-12-2011, 05:30 PM

We HAVE a comprehensive background check system, and it doesn't work.

It's not the answer.

Start executing ALL violent criminals and watch the violence drop off. We haven't tried that yet. Let's try that for 25 years and see what happens, eh?
I can guarantee you I'd know what would happen........

Clipper · 07-12-2011, 05:36 PM

Years back, at least 50 or so, a teenage kid could get the death penalty if he was involved in an armed robbery here in Texas, now he gets a slap on the wrist, a pat on the bottom and told No-No! Well, maybe not that lenient, but it has gone from a Capital offense to a few years in Huntsville.

I do believe things have really taken a turn for the better since Texas adopted Concealed Carry and the Castle Doctrine. At least the numbers of violent crimes has decreased. An Armed society is a polite society.

Artemus · 07-12-2011, 05:43 PM

Maybe some day everyone will understand that felons and nutjobs can never be controlled by laws.

07-08-2011, 06:12 PM	#1
JohnHenry Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Livingston county, Michigan Posts: 1,244	New "Gun Safety" Rules Are Coming ....... http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...giffords_n.htm __________________ Freedom .... Is Never Free ! We need Term Limits .... Send the "Professional Politicians" home . -->

07-08-2011, 09:39 PM	#2
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,078	Re: New "Gun Safety" Rules Are Coming ....... So they change the name from "gun control" to "gun safety." Just like instead of calling themselves socialists, they call themselves liberals. Same $h!+, different name. __________________ Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can."

07-10-2011, 07:00 PM	#3
Hatch Former Guest Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 287	Re: New "Gun Safety" Rules Are Coming ....... I'm curious... here's what the two mayors are quoted as saying in the article... Boston Mayor Thomas Menino and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, sent Obama a letter calling him to act. "To prevent the next Tucson, we need a comprehensive background check system, which is what the president called for in April," said the director of the mayors' group, Mark Glaze. "That said, there are many steps the president can take on his own authority, without new laws, that could make a very real difference." And yet... when was JL first diagnosed with mental issues? His parents probably wont say, but obviously it was before 18. Did he abuse small animals? that is a hallmark tell tale sign of mental disorder. Wasnt there some kind of animal thing in his backyard? I did a quick search on his name but didnt see anything, but I could swear that I saw something from the original arrest and incident articles. How long did JL the obvious psycho own guns? more laws? really? because a background check via phone like CA which requires 10 days waiting period regardless of passing the background check as opposed to AZ which allows you to pass background check by phone and go home with the gun. If he owned that gun for more than 11+ days, I'd like them to explain to me how their laws have helped anyone involved? All they do is prohibit victims from defending themselves and infringe on our constitutional rights. And lets not lose track of why JL fixated on her in the first place... at one time in another encounter, he asked her a question, which she couldnt or chose not to address as sensible, so she started replying to him in Enspanol... She dismissed a constituent out of hand She dismissed the entire LATINO community out of hand, by babbling in Spanish as an intentional insult to JL, but you dont see that in the news! She is a democrat He is a liberal And they want to come tell us about gun law problems? How about... NO. Did she "deserve" to get shot in the head for her answer to JL? No... punched in the mouth? maybe..., even that is still assault though. She was rude, arrogant and dismissive. And she did it intentionally, to the very definition of the "wrong person"! You reap what you sow.

07-12-2011, 05:30 PM	#5
graehaven Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,853	Re: New "Gun Safety" Rules Are Coming ....... We HAVE a comprehensive background check system, and it doesn't work. It's not the answer. Start executing ALL violent criminals and watch the violence drop off. We haven't tried that yet. Let's try that for 25 years and see what happens, eh? I can guarantee you I'd know what would happen........ __________________ The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." - Thomas Jefferson RESISTANCE IS FEUDAL... PREPARE TO SERVE.

07-12-2011, 05:36 PM	#6
Clipper V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Amarillo, TX Posts: 391	Re: New "Gun Safety" Rules Are Coming ....... Years back, at least 50 or so, a teenage kid could get the death penalty if he was involved in an armed robbery here in Texas, now he gets a slap on the wrist, a pat on the bottom and told No-No! Well, maybe not that lenient, but it has gone from a Capital offense to a few years in Huntsville. I do believe things have really taken a turn for the better since Texas adopted Concealed Carry and the Castle Doctrine. At least the numbers of violent crimes has decreased. An Armed society is a polite society.

07-12-2011, 05:43 PM	#7
Artemus V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mass. Posts: 358	Re: New "Gun Safety" Rules Are Coming ....... Maybe some day everyone will understand that felons and nutjobs can never be controlled by laws.