Bad week at 45nuts house - The Firearms Forum

45nut · 08-02-2011, 01:22 PM

Last Friday(6-22) my wife commented that she had called her Mom and didn't get a hold of her. Saturday morning I mowed the front lawn and went to the gun store to pick up some .357 158 gr SJHP. After that, I stopped at Costco to buy some veggies. My phone buzzed and I had missed a call.

I listened to the message and my wife was some upset asking me to return her call. I did. She said "Mom's dead!!!!" What? No, what the hell happened? Don't know, come home. I eventually went to my knees next to the grapes having an apparent teret syndrome attack.

She called after I left the house and didn't get an answer and called a neighbor to go and check on her and her Mom was found lying dead in the hall.

Bottom line is, she was gardening and stirred up a yellow jacket nest Friday afternoon/evening and was stung multiple times. She knew she was allergic to bee & wasp stings. We didn't find an Epi pen and she didn't dial 911. Instead, we find a box of baking soda on the counter and multiple places where she spilled it. She was 77 with no other major health issues. She had just lost a grandson and some might think maybe her will to live was waning because of this.

My question is this: Do you get to a stage in life where you're tired and ready to shed this mortal coil? I can't for the life of me understand why she didn't dial 911.

Anaphalactic shock

Shooter45 · 08-02-2011, 01:35 PM

Sad news. Prayers sent for the family from here.

Yes, to answer your question, I believe there is a point when life isn't that important and the person gives up. I've seen it happen.

joncutt87 · 08-02-2011, 01:39 PM

I'm sorry to hear that 45nut, your family will be in my prayers.

Double D · 08-02-2011, 01:43 PM

Sorry to hear that news. Never easy to loose family members. Who knows what was going thru her mind. I pray you guys find peace and strength thru this rough time.

JLA · 08-02-2011, 01:43 PM

Sorry to hear it Steve. Give Elaine our best.

I too have witnessed the will to live disappear. Back in 1996 my great grandfather passed away, sudden heart attack, he was dead before he hit the floor. My Great gramma, had been by his side for over 50 years, she had DJD and he helped her everyday of her life. She wasnt ever the same after grampas death, she became crotchety and got to where she quit taking any of her medications. Shortly before my grandfathers passing she was diagnosed with bone cancer too, which was the reason for all the meds. she allowed the cancer to consume her and she passed within a few months of my grampa.

Its a sad thing. Beck and I offer our sincerest condolences for y'alls loss.

Marlin T · 08-02-2011, 01:52 PM

Tragic for sure and sorry to hear the bad news.

Prayers sent to You and Yours.

jlloyd73 · 08-02-2011, 01:58 PM

I am sorry for your loss. My grandmother died one month to the day from my grandfather....they were both fighting cancer together and she just gave up without him.

armedandsafe · 08-02-2011, 02:11 PM

Prayers from here for you and yours.

Pops

45nut · 08-02-2011, 02:26 PM

Thanks guys, I guess we will never know for sure. At least our last words were playful and loving and we had been talking about gardening lately. She is in a much better place, far far away from Barak Obozo.

Artemus · 08-02-2011, 03:20 PM

Very sad indeed.Panic and shock might have kicked in rendering the poor woman in a state of confusion.Only the good Lord knows.Sorry for your loss.

Country101 · 08-02-2011, 04:00 PM

Sorry to hear that 45nut. Will be praying for you and your family.

Juker · 08-02-2011, 04:13 PM

Prayers sent, brother. So sorry to hear of your troubles --

dad2thebone · 08-02-2011, 04:43 PM

very sorry to hear of this , our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family as well with her. GOD be with you all.

Redd · 08-02-2011, 05:05 PM

Sorry to hear this, I'll say a prayer for your family.

permafrost · 08-02-2011, 05:17 PM

My heartfelt condolences

flyingtiger85 · 08-02-2011, 05:26 PM

I'm sorry to here of your loss.God bless her and you also.Some things are hard to understand and we never know all the answers.

ampaterry · 08-02-2011, 06:52 PM

I am so sorry, 45 -

Heavenly Father, we come before you today upholding this family that has suffered this loss.
We ask that you would draw near to them, and let them know that you are there to lean on at this time.
We ask that you would ease their suffering and relax their anxiety about this.
We know that all things are done in your time, Lord, and that does not often coincide with our ideas of what is best; but we know that you do know best, and all things are done in accordance with that.

We ask that you would be with this family and friends, to help them through this period.
We ask that you would let each one know that this separation is a temporary condition, and that they will be re-united again in your kingdom.

And we ask these things in the blessed name of Jesus the Christ, the Way, the Truth and the Life.

Amen -

jack404 · 08-02-2011, 07:04 PM

Amen .

sorry to hear mate

i wish The Good Lord's Peace be with you and yours

Rocketman1 · 08-02-2011, 07:43 PM

Very soory to hear this bad new 45Nut.
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.
Never easy losing a family member, espicialy when it is so sudden.

geds · 08-02-2011, 08:30 PM

So very sorry for your loss.

When anaphalactic shock sets in, it suffocates the victim because the airway swells shut. This, in itself, causes panic and irrational actions. The pain from the stings and possible shock could have also added to her confusion.

Anaphylaxis comes on very quickly, so she likely did not suffer long. If she had an Epi-pen and could have taken the injection, it would've given her a huge burst of adrenaline, expanded her blood vessels, increased her heart rate, and hopefully reopened her airways.

My deepest condolences.

45nut · 08-03-2011, 07:19 AM

Thanks guys. It really means a lot.

carver · 08-03-2011, 09:30 AM

Steve, I just logged on and found this, I am so sorry for your loss! My prayers, and thoughts for you, and your family.

doubleclutch · 08-03-2011, 06:58 PM

Prayers sent.So sorry for the loss.

08-02-2011, 01:22 PM	#1
45nut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,428	Bad week at 45nuts house Last Friday(6-22) my wife commented that she had called her Mom and didn't get a hold of her. Saturday morning I mowed the front lawn and went to the gun store to pick up some .357 158 gr SJHP. After that, I stopped at Costco to buy some veggies. My phone buzzed and I had missed a call. I listened to the message and my wife was some upset asking me to return her call. I did. She said "Mom's dead!!!!" What? No, what the hell happened? Don't know, come home. I eventually went to my knees next to the grapes having an apparent teret syndrome attack. She called after I left the house and didn't get an answer and called a neighbor to go and check on her and her Mom was found lying dead in the hall. Bottom line is, she was gardening and stirred up a yellow jacket nest Friday afternoon/evening and was stung multiple times. She knew she was allergic to bee & wasp stings. We didn't find an Epi pen and she didn't dial 911. Instead, we find a box of baking soda on the counter and multiple places where she spilled it. She was 77 with no other major health issues. She had just lost a grandson and some might think maybe her will to live was waning because of this. My question is this: Do you get to a stage in life where you're tired and ready to shed this mortal coil? I can't for the life of me understand why she didn't dial 911. Anaphalactic shock __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. Shane Nemo me impune lacesset We recall the case of the Shoshone war band which showed up complete with one 30-30 rifle per man the week after Pearl Harbor, and simply wanted to have the enemy pointed out to them. "We hear there's a war going on and we want to go fight it." Jeff Cooper *KCCO* --> Last edited by 45nut; 08-02-2011 at 01:25 PM..

08-02-2011, 01:35 PM	#2
Shooter45 Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Contributor Posts: 8,746	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house Sad news. Prayers sent for the family from here. Yes, to answer your question, I believe there is a point when life isn't that important and the person gives up. I've seen it happen.

08-02-2011, 01:39 PM	#3
joncutt87 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Kannapolis, NC Contributor Posts: 1,419	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house I'm sorry to hear that 45nut, your family will be in my prayers.

08-02-2011, 01:43 PM	#4
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,051	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house Sorry to hear that news. Never easy to loose family members. Who knows what was going thru her mind. I pray you guys find peace and strength thru this rough time. __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder.

08-02-2011, 01:43 PM	#5
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,298	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house Sorry to hear it Steve. Give Elaine our best. I too have witnessed the will to live disappear. Back in 1996 my great grandfather passed away, sudden heart attack, he was dead before he hit the floor. My Great gramma, had been by his side for over 50 years, she had DJD and he helped her everyday of her life. She wasnt ever the same after grampas death, she became crotchety and got to where she quit taking any of her medications. Shortly before my grandfathers passing she was diagnosed with bone cancer too, which was the reason for all the meds. she allowed the cancer to consume her and she passed within a few months of my grampa. Its a sad thing. Beck and I offer our sincerest condolences for y'alls loss. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

08-02-2011, 01:52 PM	#6
Marlin T Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,857	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house Tragic for sure and sorry to hear the bad news. Prayers sent to You and Yours. __________________ "But the simple truth--born of experience--is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people." Judge Alex Kozinski - United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. - Thomas Paine Did you read todays GOOD shooting? >>>KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM <<<

08-02-2011, 01:58 PM	#7
jlloyd73 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Contributor Posts: 1,931	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house I am sorry for your loss. My grandmother died one month to the day from my grandfather....they were both fighting cancer together and she just gave up without him.

08-02-2011, 02:11 PM	#8
armedandsafe Former Guest Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Moses Lake, WA Posts: 10,344	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house Prayers from here for you and yours. Pops

08-02-2011, 02:26 PM	#9
45nut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,428	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house Thanks guys, I guess we will never know for sure. At least our last words were playful and loving and we had been talking about gardening lately. She is in a much better place, far far away from Barak Obozo. __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. Shane Nemo me impune lacesset We recall the case of the Shoshone war band which showed up complete with one 30-30 rifle per man the week after Pearl Harbor, and simply wanted to have the enemy pointed out to them. "We hear there's a war going on and we want to go fight it." Jeff Cooper *KCCO*

08-02-2011, 03:20 PM	#10
Artemus V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mass. Posts: 358	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house Very sad indeed.Panic and shock might have kicked in rendering the poor woman in a state of confusion.Only the good Lord knows.Sorry for your loss.

08-02-2011, 04:00 PM	#11
Country101 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dardanelle, AR Contributor Posts: 2,026	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house Sorry to hear that 45nut. Will be praying for you and your family. __________________ Gainfully employed= shooting somebody elses bullets and getting paid for it Country101

08-02-2011, 04:13 PM	#12
Juker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Land of Lincoln Contributor Posts: 2,872	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house Prayers sent, brother. So sorry to hear of your troubles -- __________________ SHOOT FIRST. SHOOT SECOND. MOST IMPORTANTLY, BE THE MAN WHO'S SHOOTING LAST.

08-02-2011, 04:43 PM	#13
dad2thebone Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,357	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house very sorry to hear of this , our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family as well with her. GOD be with you all. __________________ 9-11-01 we will never forget.And then we have dec 7 now it's Nov 6th all sad days for our country. And dont whizz on my leg then tell me it's raining.

08-02-2011, 05:05 PM	#14
Redd V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Western Kentucky Contributor Posts: 82	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house Sorry to hear this, I'll say a prayer for your family.

08-02-2011, 05:17 PM	#15
permafrost Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oklahoma, USA Contributor Posts: 1,771	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house My heartfelt condolences __________________ Stand and Fight

08-02-2011, 05:26 PM	#16
flyingtiger85 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nevada Posts: 744	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house I'm sorry to here of your loss.God bless her and you also.Some things are hard to understand and we never know all the answers.

08-02-2011, 06:52 PM	#17
ampaterry TFF Admin Staff Chaplain Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: West Tennessee Contributor Posts: 6,269	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house I am so sorry, 45 - Heavenly Father, we come before you today upholding this family that has suffered this loss. We ask that you would draw near to them, and let them know that you are there to lean on at this time. We ask that you would ease their suffering and relax their anxiety about this. We know that all things are done in your time, Lord, and that does not often coincide with our ideas of what is best; but we know that you do know best, and all things are done in accordance with that. We ask that you would be with this family and friends, to help them through this period. We ask that you would let each one know that this separation is a temporary condition, and that they will be re-united again in your kingdom. And we ask these things in the blessed name of Jesus the Christ, the Way, the Truth and the Life. Amen - __________________ A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders. Larry Elder

08-02-2011, 07:04 PM	#18
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house Amen . sorry to hear mate i wish The Good Lord's Peace be with you and yours

08-02-2011, 07:43 PM	#19
Rocketman1 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,097	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house Very soory to hear this bad new 45Nut. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. Never easy losing a family member, espicialy when it is so sudden. __________________ There is no such thing as a gun accident. Irresponsible gun owners cause so-called gun accidents.

08-02-2011, 08:30 PM	#20
geds Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,706	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house So very sorry for your loss. When anaphalactic shock sets in, it suffocates the victim because the airway swells shut. This, in itself, causes panic and irrational actions. The pain from the stings and possible shock could have also added to her confusion. Anaphylaxis comes on very quickly, so she likely did not suffer long. If she had an Epi-pen and could have taken the injection, it would've given her a huge burst of adrenaline, expanded her blood vessels, increased her heart rate, and hopefully reopened her airways. My deepest condolences.

08-03-2011, 07:19 AM	#21
45nut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,428	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house Thanks guys. It really means a lot. __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. Shane Nemo me impune lacesset We recall the case of the Shoshone war band which showed up complete with one 30-30 rifle per man the week after Pearl Harbor, and simply wanted to have the enemy pointed out to them. "We hear there's a war going on and we want to go fight it." Jeff Cooper *KCCO*

08-03-2011, 09:30 AM	#22
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,221	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house Steve, I just logged on and found this, I am so sorry for your loss! My prayers, and thoughts for you, and your family. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

08-03-2011, 06:58 PM	#23
doubleclutch Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: N.E. Georgia,U.S., Third rock from the sun Posts: 45	Re: Bad week at 45nuts house Prayers sent.So sorry for the loss.