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JohnHenry · 08-20-2011, 12:37 PM

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obam...the-dream-act/

jack404 · 08-20-2011, 12:47 PM

end run's around congress , wasn't some one talking about that a week ago ??

oh yeah !! i was ..

what are you gonna do folks ??

carver · 08-20-2011, 12:57 PM

If possible make congress stand up to this idiot!

jack404 · 08-20-2011, 01:03 PM

hmmm so if jhe operates outside congress's reach ? what then ? he's slowly taking congress's teeth out and replacing them with marshmellows so even if they do bite iot wont do much .. just my opinion

there is another way

THROW THE BUM OUT , BY FORCE OF THE PEOPLE

a million folks marching on washington ( 0.33% of the people or near enough ) and going to thr white house should do the trick ,

you'll never have a issue like obozo again too

and if the new prez or future prez starts making MG bunkers by the gates

do it again before they are finished and dismantle them

carver · 08-20-2011, 01:18 PM

Jack, we did march on DC, back in '09. Almost 2 million strong, I know, I was there! That didn't work then, and it won't work now! No one will tell the truth about it. He cannot work outside of the reach of Congress, if Congress stands up to him, and denies him this kind of action. The laws are there, we just need men, and women, to stand up to him, and make him obey the laws!

HunterAlpha1 · 08-20-2011, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by carver

Jack, we did march on DC, back in '09. Almost 2 million strong, I know, I was there! That didn't work then, and it won't work now! No one will tell the truth about it. He cannot work outside of the reach of Congress, if Congress stands up to him, and denies him this kind of action. The laws are there, we just need men, and women, to stand up to him, and make him obey the laws!

did you march with guns? sorry, but that's about what it's gonna take at this point.

jack404 · 08-20-2011, 09:38 PM

please correct me where i am wrong , i am far from a expert on your government but learning when i can....

Congress is like the safety net for the people if the president gets it badly wrong

they stop it getting too far

but what use is a safety net if its either full of holes , or ( even worse) is not deployed at all ( not blocking or catching the bad stuff ) ??

should not the net be replaced as well as the main problem in this case ?

throw all the bum's out and start over

rentalguy1 · 08-21-2011, 09:21 AM

Congress is NOT a safety net for the potus. We have three branches of federal government. Each one is separate and equal. The way it is supposed to work is if one does something stupid, the other two can overturn it. What we have going on now is a president that thinks he is actually the king, instead of the CEO of one branch of government. Marches on DC won't accomplish anything. The only type of march on DC that will accomplkish something is the way that Robert E. Lee attempted some time ago. I honestly believe that we are living the era of the mid-1800's all over again. We are currently at about 1860, and you all know what happens next April. Time for the "American Spring" if we actually make it that far...

hogger129 · 08-21-2011, 09:41 AM

I have a dream that one day the American people will elect people who care about the those they serve.

If we keep letting liberals ruin this country; life, liberty and property won't be around much longer.

rentalguy1 · 08-21-2011, 09:57 AM

If I can't have my liberty, then I don't need my life. I invoke Patrick Henry!

carver · 08-21-2011, 09:58 AM

We are all on the same page here, we know what's wrong, we know how to fix it, but we lack the power to do so at this time. Those that we have elected to the Senate, the Congress, and the Presidency, have no thoughts, or cares, about the American people, they are only concerned about getting re-elected, and lineing their pockets. We have to vote these crooks out of office, and we made a small start last election. It has taken us years to get into this mess, and it will take time to get it all straight. We just have to keep trying to vote in those that will make a difference, and vote out those that don't care.

Gun Geezer · 08-21-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by carver

We are all on the same page here, we know what's wrong, we know how to fix it, but we lack the power to do so at this time. Those that we have elected to the Senate, the Congress, and the Presidency, have no thoughts, or cares, about the American people, they are only concerned about getting re-elected, and lineing their pockets. We have to vote these crooks out of office, and we made a small start last election. It has taken us years to get into this mess, and it will take time to get it all straight. We just have to keep trying to vote in those that will make a difference, and vote out those that don't care.

I doubt our founding fathers would have been so patient.

HunterAlpha1 · 08-21-2011, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gun Geezer

I doubt our founding fathers would have been so patient.

agreed. there would have been civil war when the 1934 NFA was passed, if not before.

sliclee · 08-21-2011, 08:18 PM

13 posts above and not a word was spoken,WHAT ARE YOU PREPARED TO DO?

JohnHenry · 08-21-2011, 09:32 PM

It's a little early for "What Are You Prepared To Do " .... I suspect that the answer will
appear in late Nov. ot 2012 when there will be blood in the streets . If osama is returned to office you'll see one form of "blood in the streets" .... If he is voted out there will be a different form .

AND IF THERE IS NO ELECTION ....

The "blood in the streets" will be of a form that I don't even want to think about !

45Auto · 08-21-2011, 11:17 PM

The more I read about how much some you hate the President the more concerned I get for the USA. The language I have been reading (and not this post only) is more than the usual GOP vs. Democratic banter. The hate is glowing more every day.

At some point I fear someone is going to cross the line and the Feds are going to get involved. And that is not good for the 2nd Amendment Rights of anyone.

redwing carson · 08-21-2011, 11:37 PM

Our system works. We have had many would be kings. Lincoln came very close, Wilson rolled the socialist agenda thru to FDR. LBJ was a tyrant of the worse kind. LBJ came very close to disarming Amricans and left us with the BATF. These men are history. Obama like Carter and Buchanan will rank among the most ineffective Presidents. Those who observe from afar never understand how our systems can Black Hole losers and move forward. And we will.

HunterAlpha1 · 08-22-2011, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by redwing carson

Our system works. We have had many would be kings. Lincoln came very close, Wilson rolled the socialist agenda thru to FDR. LBJ was a tyrant of the worse kind. LBJ came very close to disarming Amricans and left us with the BATF. These men are history. Obama like Carter and Buchanan will rank among the most ineffective Presidents. Those who observe from afar never understand how our systems can Black Hole losers and move forward. And we will.

problem is, right now we're moving downword much faster than we're moving forward.

marlin795 · 08-25-2011, 01:36 PM

I love this forum. You guys have heads on your shoulders and don't believe any of the junk fed to you on TV. It'll take all of us to get our government back by the people for the people.

redwing carson · 08-25-2011, 09:26 PM

When our Fore Fathers were starving at Valley Forge I doubt many would have bet on them beating the most powerful nation in the world. The fact is 96% of the population bet they would not. We are going to win, the American spirit is still strong. Just read the post on this forum,

fuzebox40 · 08-30-2011, 03:54 PM

A lot of great men did as much damage as they could with what time they had but generaly they aimed at the enemy. Can Obama really be that stupid, really?
I think he's in bed with the new world order, he's trying kick our feet out and create two classes, the filthy rich and the powerless poor.
But he is mighty ignorant, it could be he's really that stupid.

permafrost · 08-30-2011, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by redwing carson

When our Fore Fathers were starving at Valley Forge I doubt many would have bet on them beating the most powerful nation in the world. The fact is 96% of the population bet they would not. We are going to win, the American spirit is still strong. Just read the post on this forum,

This is our lesson to learn from history. It can be done, by a ragtag unorganized bunch of malcontents and patriots who have the will and spirit and are willing to sacrifice all if necessary. We are the end result of their sacrifice. We owe it to them to insure this grand experiment in democracy and freedom continues for those who will follow. Otherwise we wind up in the same shape as England . I had an ancestor at Valley Forge and at Yorktown with Washington for the surrender of Cornwallis. I'm obligated to carry on and I will!

08-20-2011, 12:37 PM	#1
JohnHenry Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Livingston county, Michigan Posts: 1,215	New, obama, "Dream Act" ..... http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obam...the-dream-act/ __________________ Freedom .... Is Never Free ! We need Term Limits .... Send the "Professional Politicians" home . -->

08-20-2011, 12:47 PM	#2
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: New, obama, "Dream Act" ..... end run's around congress , wasn't some one talking about that a week ago ?? oh yeah !! i was .. what are you gonna do folks ??

08-20-2011, 12:57 PM	#3
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,223	Re: New, obama, "Dream Act" ..... If possible make congress stand up to this idiot! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

08-20-2011, 01:03 PM	#4
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: New, obama, "Dream Act" ..... hmmm so if jhe operates outside congress's reach ? what then ? he's slowly taking congress's teeth out and replacing them with marshmellows so even if they do bite iot wont do much .. just my opinion there is another way THROW THE BUM OUT , BY FORCE OF THE PEOPLE a million folks marching on washington ( 0.33% of the people or near enough ) and going to thr white house should do the trick , you'll never have a issue like obozo again too and if the new prez or future prez starts making MG bunkers by the gates do it again before they are finished and dismantle them

08-20-2011, 01:18 PM	#5
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,223	Re: New, obama, "Dream Act" ..... Jack, we did march on DC, back in '09. Almost 2 million strong, I know, I was there! That didn't work then, and it won't work now! No one will tell the truth about it. He cannot work outside of the reach of Congress, if Congress stands up to him, and denies him this kind of action. The laws are there, we just need men, and women, to stand up to him, and *make* him obey the laws! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

08-20-2011, 09:38 PM	#7
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: New, obama, "Dream Act" ..... please correct me where i am wrong , i am far from a expert on your government but learning when i can.... Congress is like the safety net for the people if the president gets it badly wrong they stop it getting too far but what use is a safety net if its either full of holes , or ( even worse) is not deployed at all ( not blocking or catching the bad stuff ) ?? should not the net be replaced as well as the main problem in this case ? throw all the bum's out and start over

08-21-2011, 09:21 AM	#8
rentalguy1 Former Guest Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The mountains of NE TN. Posts: 884	Re: New, obama, "Dream Act" ..... Congress is NOT a safety net for the potus. We have three branches of federal government. Each one is separate and equal. The way it is supposed to work is if one does something stupid, the other two can overturn it. What we have going on now is a president that thinks he is actually the king, instead of the CEO of one branch of government. Marches on DC won't accomplish anything. The only type of march on DC that will accomplkish something is the way that Robert E. Lee attempted some time ago. I honestly believe that we are living the era of the mid-1800's all over again. We are currently at about 1860, and you all know what happens next April. Time for the "American Spring" if we actually make it that far...

08-21-2011, 09:41 AM	#9
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,064	Re: New, obama, "Dream Act" ..... I have a dream that one day the American people will elect people who care about the those they serve. If we keep letting liberals ruin this country; life, liberty and property won't be around much longer. __________________ Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can." Last edited by hogger129; 08-21-2011 at 09:44 AM..

08-21-2011, 09:57 AM	#10
rentalguy1 Former Guest Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The mountains of NE TN. Posts: 884	Re: New, obama, "Dream Act" ..... If I can't have my liberty, then I don't need my life. I invoke Patrick Henry!

08-21-2011, 09:58 AM	#11
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,223	Re: New, obama, "Dream Act" ..... We are all on the same page here, we know what's wrong, we know how to fix it, but we lack the power to do so at this time. Those that we have elected to the Senate, the Congress, and the Presidency, have no thoughts, or cares, about the American people, they are only concerned about getting re-elected, and lineing their pockets. We have to vote these crooks out of office, and we made a small start last election. It has taken us years to get into this mess, and it will take time to get it all straight. We just have to keep trying to vote in those that will make a difference, and vote out those that don't care. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

08-21-2011, 08:18 PM	#14
sliclee V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Miami Beach Florida Posts: 65	Re: New, obama, "Dream Act" ..... 13 posts above and not a word was spoken,WHAT ARE YOU PREPARED TO DO?

08-21-2011, 09:32 PM	#15
JohnHenry Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Livingston county, Michigan Posts: 1,215	Re: New, obama, "Dream Act" ..... It's a little early for "What Are You Prepared To Do " .... I suspect that the answer will appear in late Nov. ot 2012 when there will be blood in the streets . If osama is returned to office you'll see one form of "blood in the streets" .... If he is voted out there will be a different form . AND IF THERE IS NO ELECTION .... The "blood in the streets" will be of a form that I don't even want to think about ! __________________ Freedom .... Is Never Free ! We need Term Limits .... Send the "Professional Politicians" home .

08-21-2011, 11:17 PM	#16
45Auto Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,116	Re: New, obama, "Dream Act" ..... The more I read about how much some you hate the President the more concerned I get for the USA. The language I have been reading (and not this post only) is more than the usual GOP vs. Democratic banter. The hate is glowing more every day. At some point I fear someone is going to cross the line and the Feds are going to get involved. And that is not good for the 2nd Amendment Rights of anyone.

08-21-2011, 11:37 PM	#17
redwing carson Former Guest Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: western wyoming Posts: 734	Re: New, obama, "Dream Act" ..... Our system works. We have had many would be kings. Lincoln came very close, Wilson rolled the socialist agenda thru to FDR. LBJ was a tyrant of the worse kind. LBJ came very close to disarming Amricans and left us with the BATF. These men are history. Obama like Carter and Buchanan will rank among the most ineffective Presidents. Those who observe from afar never understand how our systems can Black Hole losers and move forward. And we will.

08-25-2011, 01:36 PM	#19
marlin795 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Calvary Chapel Bible College; Murrieta,CA Posts: 755	Re: New, obama, "Dream Act" ..... I love this forum. You guys have heads on your shoulders and don't believe any of the junk fed to you on TV. It'll take all of us to get our government back by the people for the people. __________________ Native born Californian, adopted by the Great State Of Texas! PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!!!

08-25-2011, 09:26 PM	#20
redwing carson Former Guest Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: western wyoming Posts: 734	Re: New, obama, "Dream Act" ..... When our Fore Fathers were starving at Valley Forge I doubt many would have bet on them beating the most powerful nation in the world. The fact is 96% of the population bet they would not. We are going to win, the American spirit is still strong. Just read the post on this forum,

08-30-2011, 03:54 PM	#21
fuzebox40 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Apple Valley, Ca. Contributor Posts: 1,485	Re: New, obama, "Dream Act" ..... A lot of great men did as much damage as they could with what time they had but generaly they aimed at the enemy. Can Obama really be that stupid, really? I think he's in bed with the new world order, he's trying kick our feet out and create two classes, the filthy rich and the powerless poor. But he is mighty ignorant, it could be he's really that stupid.