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|09-07-2011, 11:10 PM||#1|
Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Milford, Delaware
Kinves are Baaaaddd. Baaaaddd
I thought this was something made up, but apparently not.
"False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils, except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm those only who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Can it be supposed that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity, the most important of the code, will respect the less important and arbitrary ones, which can be violated with ease and impunity, and which, if strictly obeyed, would subject innocent person to all the vexations that the guilty alone ought to suffer? Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for the unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. They ought to be designated as laws not preventative but fearful of crimes, produced by the tumultuous impression of a few isolated facts, and not by thoughtful consideration of the inconveniences and advantages of a universal decree."
--Cesare Beccaria, On Crimes and Punishments
--Quoted in full by Thomas Jefferson,
Commonplace Book 314
Donít pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he will just kill you.
|09-07-2011, 11:19 PM||#2|
Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Re: Kinves are Baaaaddd. Baaaaddd
So dangerous huh? My knife has never hurt me or anyone else. It's only a danger to home invaders or people who wish to do me harm.
By the same reasoning of these idiots wanting to ban guns and knives, we should ban automobiles and cheeseburgers. We should ban farting because it contributes to global warming. What will they think of next. They're under the assumption that criminals will abide by the law.
Does this mean that newly weds are going to have to go through a background check and a 14-day waiting period when they want to buy a kitchen silverware set that includes knives?
What about fishermen who want to buy fillet knives?
What about people that own butcher shops?
Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can."
Last edited by hogger129; 09-07-2011 at 11:24 PM..
|09-07-2011, 11:55 PM||#3|
Join Date: Jan 2010
Re: Kinves are Baaaaddd. Baaaaddd
here the laws in this state ( NSW Australia)
Weapons Prohibition Act 1998 No 127
Schedule 1 Prohibited weapons
(Section 4 (1))
(1) A flick knife (or other similar device) that has a blade which opens automatically by gravity or centrifugal force or by any pressure applied to a button, spring or device in or attached to the handle of the knife.
(2) A ballistic knife that propels a knife-like blade of any material by any means other than an explosive.
(3) A sheath knife that has a sheath which withdraws into its handle by gravity or centrifugal force or if pressure is applied to a button, spring or device attached to or forming part of the sheath, handle or blade of the knife.
(4) An Urban Skinner push dagger or any other device that consists of a single-edged or multi-edged blade or spike that has a handle fitted transversely to the blade or spike and allows the blade or spike to be supported by the palm of the hand so that stabbing blows or slashes can be inflicted by a punching or pushing action.
(5) A trench knife or any other device that consists of a single-edged or multi-edged blade or spike that is fitted with a handle made of any hard substance that can be fitted over the knuckles of the hand of the user to protect the knuckles and increase the effect of a punch or blow, or that is adapted for such use.
(6) A butterfly knife or “balisong” or any other device that consists of a single-edged or multi-edged blade or spike that fits within 2 handles attached to the blade or spike by transverse pivot pins and is capable of being opened by gravity or centrifugal force.
(7) A star knife or any other device that consists of a number of angular points, blades or spikes disposed outwardly about a central axis point and that are designed to spin around the central axis point in flight when thrown at a target.
2 Miscellaneous weapons
(1) Any bomb, grenade, rocket, missile or mine (or other similar device, such as a tear-gas canister) that is in the nature of (or that expels or contains) an explosive, incendiary, irritant or gas, and whether or not it is “live” or has been deactivated. A “live” rocket must have a propellant charge of more than 100 grams, and a “live” missile must have an explosive or incendiary charge of more than 7 grams, for it to be a prohibited weapon.
(2) A flame thrower that is of military design, or any other device that is capable of projecting ignited incendiary fuel.
(3) Any device that is designed to propel or launch a bomb, grenade, rocket or missile by any means other than by means of an explosive, including a device known as a PVC cannon.
(4) A spear gun having an overall length (being the length of the spear gun when it is not loaded with a spear) of less than 45 centimetres.
(5) A crossbow (or any similar device) consisting of a bow fitted transversely on a stock that has a groove or barrel designed to direct an arrow or bolt.
(6) A slingshot (being a device consisting of an elasticised band secured to the forks of a “Y” shaped frame), other than a home-made slingshot for use by a child in the course of play.
(7) A Saunders “Falcon” Hunting Sling, or any other device in the nature of a hunting sling, catapult or slingshot that is designed for use with, or a component part of which is, a brace that:
(a) fits or rests on the forearm or on another part of the body of the user, and
(b) supports the wrist against the tension of elastic material used to propel a projectile.
(8) A blow-gun or blow-pipe that is capable of projecting a dart, or any other device that consists of a pipe or tube through which missiles in the form of a dart are capable of being projected by the exhaled breath of the user or by any other means other than an explosive.
(9) Any dart capable of being projected from a blow-gun or blow-pipe.
(10) A Farallon Shark Dart, or any other similar device that is designed to expel, on contact, any gas or other substance capable of causing bodily harm and which is reasonably capable of being carried concealed about the person.
(11) A dart projector known as the Darchery dartslinger, or any other similar device that is designed to project a dart by means of an elasticised band.
(12) A mace or any other similar article that consists of a club or staff fitted with a flanged or spiked head, other than a ceremonial mace made for and used solely as a symbol of authority on ceremonial occasions.
(13) A flail or any other similar article that consists of a staff or handle that has fitted to one end, by any means, a freely swinging striking part that is armed with spikes or studded with any protruding matter.
(14) A whip that has a lash which is comprised wholly or partly of any form of metal.
(15) A whip known as a cat-o’-nine-tails, or any other whip that consists of a handle to which there is attached any number of knotted lashes.
(16) Kung fu sticks or “nunchaku”, or any other similar article consisting of 2 or more sticks or bars made of any material that are joined together by any means that allows the sticks or bars to swing independently of each other.
(17) A side-handled baton or any other similar article consisting of a baton, staff or rod that is made of any hard substance and has fitted to one side a handle, whether or not that handle is permanently fixed.
(17A) An extendable or telescopic baton.
(18) Any hand-held defence or anti-personnel device that is designed to administer an electric shock on contact, such as the Taser Self-Defence Weapon or an electrified brief-case, but not including any such hand-held device that may lawfully be used on an animal in accordance with the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1979.
(19) Knuckle-dusters or any other similar article that is made of any hard substance and that can be fitted over the knuckles of the hand of the user to protect the knuckles and increase the effect of a punch or other blow or that is adapted for use as such.
(20) A sap glove, or any other similar article, that consists of a glove (including a fingerless glove) that has a layer of powdered lead sewn under the outer covering and positioned over the knuckle area on the back of the glove.
(21) A studded glove, or any other similar article, that consists of a glove (including a fingerless glove) that has a number of raised studs or spikes made of a hard substance and positioned over the back of the glove to increase the effect of a punch or blow.
(22) Any device designed or intended as a defence or anti-personnel spray and that is capable of discharging by any means any irritant matter comprising or containing any one or more of the following substances in liquid, powder, gas or chemical form:
(a) chloroacetophenone, known as CN,
(b) orthochlorobenzalmalononitrile, known as CS,
(c) dypenylaminechloroarsone, known as DM or Adamsite,
(d) oleoresin capsicum, known as OC.
(23) Any device (not being a device referred to in subclause (22)) designed as a defence or anti-personnel spray and that is capable of discharging any irritant matter.
(24) Any acoustic or light-emitting anti-personnel device that is designed to cause permanent or temporary incapacity or to otherwise disorientate persons.
3 Replicas, imitations, concealed blades etc
(1) Any imitation or replica of a bomb, grenade, rocket, missile or mine (or similar device), unless it is of an approved type.
(2) Any imitation or replica of a firearm in respect of which a licence or permit is required under the Firearms Act 1996 (including any imitation or replica pistol, blank fire pistol, shortened firearm, machine gun or sub-machine gun), unless it is of an approved type.
(3) A walking stick or cane that contains a sword or any other single-edged or multi-edged blade or spike of any length or of any material.
(4) A riding crop that contains a knife, stiletto or any other single-edged or multi-edged blade or spike of any length or of any material.
(5) A Bowen Knife Belt or any other similar article consisting of a belt or belt buckle that conceals or disguises within the article a knife or a single-edged or multi-edged blade or spike of any length or of any material.
(6) Any article or device that:
(a) due to its appearance is capable of being mistaken for something else that is not a weapon, and
(b) disguises and conceals within it a single-edged or multi-edged blade or spike of any length or of any material.
4 Miscellaneous articles
(1) Body armour vests (or any other similar article) designed for anti-ballistic purposes and to be worn on any part of the body (other than helmets or anti-ballistic articles used for eye or hearing protection).
(2) Handcuffs (other than antique handcuffs, or children’s toy handcuffs, that are of an approved type).
(3) Silencers or any other device designed for attachment to a firearm for the purpose of muffling, reducing or stopping the noise created by firing the firearm.
(4) A firearm magazine, being:
(a) a rimfire magazine with a capacity of more than 15 rounds, or
(b) a centre-fire self-loading rifle magazine with a capacity of more than 5 rounds, or
(c) a shotgun magazine with a capacity of more than 5 rounds, or
(d) a shotgun tubular magazine extension that is capable of extending the capacity of a shotgun magazine to more than 5 rounds, or
(e) a pistol magazine with a capacity of more than 10 rounds.
(5) Any article or device, such as a device known as a brass catcher, that is designed to be attached to a firearm for the purposes of catching ejected cartridge cases when the firearm is being fired.
(6) Any portable tyre deflation device, or any other similar portable device, that is designed to puncture, or that has been adapted for the purposes of puncturing, the tyres of a motor vehicle when driven over the device.