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I am looking for a bolt rifle in .308 with a detachable magazine, and came across the 770. Do any of you own one of these rifles? If so what do you think of them, and are they accurate? Also, does anyone make an aftermarket mag for them that holds more than 4 rounds?
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I like decent rifles. I cringe when I see cheap guns with even cheaper glass already mounted. Hopefully the 770 isn't like the 710.
I like ruger and Remington I buy them used and beat up. The 700 can be built however you like. https://www.hsprecision.com/shop2/ca...ton+700+Stocks I think there's legal issues with high capacity mags and hunting Last edited by evan03; 09-22-2011 at 10:06 AM.. |
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If its to be shot for fun and shot a lot I would not get the 770 or 710 they are made to be cheap hunting rifles that only see a few rounds a year the 700 or a savage would make you a good platform to do upgrades to I have never seen any add ons for the 770 and only mediocre reviews at best
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I owned one once for a very short time. In my opinion it's not much of a gun and not even close to being comparable to the 700.
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We have one in .243. No problems to speak of. Reasonably accurate.
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I want an accurat rifle in .308. Once upon a time you could buy an accurate rifle just about anywhere, and for not much money. Now days it will cost you several pay checks to get a rifle that has any accuracy to it at all. They just don't make em like they used to. Used to be that a good Remington rifle sold for $120 - $130, back in 1960, one weeks pay back then. I will be looking around at the used gun racks!
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The 770 (and before that, the 710) series of rifles are designed to be the cheaper-to-produce alternatives to the 700. The quality is not as good, and the accuracy potential is worse. They're not bad guns inherently, but understand that you're buying the "Stanley" grade tools rather than the "Craftsman."
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Walley world has the remington 700 with a cheapo scope all synthetic for 399 that leaves plenty of money for add-ons like a decent stock and or detachable mag kit and a Gooder scope
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Savage Axis and Thompson Center Venture are both available in .308 and have detachable 4 round mags, and synthetic stocks. The Savage goes for $280 brand new.
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You couldn't run fast enough to "give" me a 770..............Don in SC
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+1 for savage edge/axis
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Glass matters most I'd decide what kinda power glass the buy that first. Leupold 3-9vxIIs are my go to Scopes. For me the work awesome. But they are the bottom of the line and cost 300 bucks.
A used sps or Adl( same gun new name)308 700 could go for 250-400 Last edited by evan03; 09-22-2011 at 09:24 PM.. |
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I want one of these in 243 or 2506
308 has more recoil then I want to deal with wile plinking rockchuckes all day. http://www.remington.com/products/fi...l-700-vls.aspx |
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From experience I would take a Rem 770 over a Savage Edge/Axis. The Rem shoots where you aim it, the Edge didn't always do that for me.
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I'm curious to know what caliber and ammo you were using in the Savage Last edited by Albtraum; 09-27-2011 at 06:32 PM.. |
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I'm a Rem 700 guy always have been, but IMO for a low price with very good accuracy Savage is hard to beat! Don't you have some buds around Carver that can let you try theirs?
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My savage in .30-06, shoots well with cheap remington ammo. Can't wait to see how it does when I start reloading.
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Carver, if I was closer I would let you borrow mine
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My .02, no, they don't build 'em like they used to; they build 'em better.
What I mean is that the cnc equipment is more advanced and precise than anything available "in the day" and with a moderate budget you will get a rifle that is superior to the older stuff. Please don't get me wrong, I like the old rifles quite well; but you have to give the devil his due. I would say to look at the Savage rifles or something like the FN patrol boat rifle; do you want a carry rifle for the field or a heavy barrel bench rest gun? What type gun do you want, synthetic stock? stainless steel? I would personally stay away from the "Walmart" rifles, it is my OPINION that they are built cheaper to meet the wallyworld price point. I mean this as no slight to remington,savage ect... but if you are selling guns at the walmart price, you have to keep the cost at a minimum. If you are looking for accuracy, you will get what you pay for; if you want an accurate hunting rifle at a fair price, look at savage. As a note, Cabellas has an ad for the Savage Axis @ $249.00, about double your 1960 price. Would I expect a match grade heirloom rifle? No, but I would expect a reasonably accurate field grade hunting gun at this price. Last edited by CHW2021; 09-28-2011 at 08:41 AM.. Reason: add text |
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Of the hunter grade rifles out there that I would not be scared to lay on the ground, drop, not worry about I would gave to go with a Tikka T3. Tikka's are a hunter grade Sako. If you have ever owned a Sako you will know the fit and finish is second to none. Their actions are as smooth as a babies ass on a buttered Granite counter top. I have ever worked a factory action that has even compared to a Sako action. |
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Good advice form all, even though some of it differs on make, and model. I am now, more than ever, convienced that I will be shopping at the used gun racks. I suppose that what I meant by "They don't make em like they used to" was in part that back in the 60's they didn't have bargain basement guns like they do today. The choices were a lot more limited, and everyone tried to sell a gun that was whorth having. I have bought several cheap guns in the past hoping that function, and accuracy would be there, and it wasn't.
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I don't like the 770 at all I have seen to many that wouldn't shoot well and or broke. I do think the Savage Axis at the same price point or lower is a much better option and you can almost always get 1/2 MOA groups out of them.
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I found it! The Remington 700 VTR. I was at Bass Pro Shop last night looking for a bipod, and thought I would ask the sales person behind the desk about a good .308. We talked a little about the guns on the rack, but when he pointed out the Remington, we didn't go any further. I've been looking around on the net all morning, hunting for the gun I was looking at, but the closest I have come is the one in the pic, but it's still not the gun I was looking at. The one in the picture is green, with black overmold grips, and the one I was looking at is grey, with black overmold grips, and a Satin Black Oxide barrel. Tactical-style barrels are 1 in 12" twist for the 308 caliber. $599 Now I need to contact my dealer to see if he can get the grey/black rifle, and at what cost. The next step will be a Red Field scope to mount on it!
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Y'all be safe now, ya hear!Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old. |
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You cant go wrong with the Redfield scopes. They are an excellent value, and they are currently made in the US by Leupold. In todays market, there are a plethora of "good" rifles that are made in a similar manner to the Savage, with the "barrel nut" assembly rather than with the barrel threaded into the action. The Marlin X7, the Stevens 200, the Mossberg/Maverick 100, etc. They are all capable of excellent accuracy, and the Marlin has the best trigger of the lot. I have no experience with the Axis, so I cant comment on them SPECIFICALLY, however. If you look around, check the online gun auction sites and go to any local gun shows of size, however, you should be able to find a Remington ADL for a reasonable price as well. Let us know how you make out, and what you finally select. Best of luck.
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