It kills me when people hate on our troops... - The Firearms Forum

marlin795 · 09-26-2011, 09:21 PM

I really do hate it. I have a friend who was in Afghanistan till last week,who is a Combat Engineer and has been serving our Country for 2 years. He is married and is only 21. He hit a IDE in one of the anti-blast big rigs, he was driving and he ran over a 300lb. roadside bomb. Completely demolished the truck and it broke his back and pelvis. He's in Texas now expecting a complete recovery and got the Purple Heart from Obama himself, (surprisingly) He is now being Medically retired which is a bummer for him as he wanted to make it a career.Well I was telling a person about him and I'm a little on edge now as I'll probably go to Afghan on a Stryker. Well the person said he got what he deserved for enlisting and being over there. I was at a lost of words. Really was, all I felt was I wanted to shoot the person.

Why hate on our poor guys who give so much for us? It hurts me to hear it and hurts them to give your back for your Country then be spat on for it.

Why hate? Why not say thank you and shake their hand or thank them for their service? I don't get it...

Pray for him and his wife please...

H-D · 09-26-2011, 09:31 PM

yeah thats the kicker they go fight for us to have the right to berate them.... I'm honored by your friend's service and wish him a speedy recovery

joncutt87 · 09-26-2011, 09:31 PM

I'm with you 100%

ofitg · 09-26-2011, 09:39 PM

Some of the finest people I've ever met were from my days in the service.

Military people don't get to select where or why the wars are fought. I'm not happy about the choices our politicians have made, but I admire the troops 100%.

marlin795 · 09-26-2011, 09:48 PM

Some of the bravest people I ever met have served our Country and sacrificed for it. One guy I know has been in 20 years and has missed the births of all his children and has only spent one Christmas with his family. And his oldest is 12. That's sacrifice at it's greatest. They deserve our utmost respect and thanks.

American Leader · 09-26-2011, 09:48 PM

I don't know how old you are Marlin, but when our guy's came home from nam people spit in their faces, the American soldier was treated like total dirt. And that piece of scum Jane Fonda even turned some of our boys over to the enemy. It all makes me very sick and angry!

marlin795 · 09-26-2011, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by American Leader

I don't know how old you are Marlin, but when our guy's came home from nam people spit in their faces, the American soldier was treated like total dirt. And that piece of scum Jane Fonda even turned some of our boys over to the enemy. It all makes me very sick and angry!

I'm not that old sir, but my father was there near the end. It was bad, almost as bad as now.

Chinook · 09-26-2011, 11:08 PM

That is insane. People who speak this way are severly under-educated, or simply stupid. Regardless of where our chosen leaders decide to send our troops, they are there for a reason... One of the main reasons... Is protecting the safety of ALL Americans... Including the idiots unfortunately. My hat's off to you Marlin795, and to your friend who wasn't wanting to give up so easily! We pray for his recovery, and we pray for your safety soldier.

marlin795 · 09-26-2011, 11:47 PM

People are stupid to run their mouths. if the world goes bad soldiers will not stand in front of them but behind them. It just hurts as the person realized after he said it he remembered I enlisted and have a combat MOS. I will get some terrorists for you guys but not him.

armedandsafe · 09-26-2011, 11:56 PM

The peace-at-any-price ones see only the actions of the soldier during the firefight. The soldier is KILLING! OMG! That must make the soldier bad and, therefore, they must do all they can to stop that evil type from contaminating our society.

Those of us who can think beyond the constraints of those narrow minded souls can see the sacrifice for country offered by these brave soldiers and honor them for their committment to keeping people who hate them safe.

When I was living in San Diego, during the waning years of Viet Nam, I was part of a group who would be at the dock side or at the airport when a contingent of our military was incoming. We were not there to spit and shout. We were there to escort heroes home. I was proud to be allowed into such a group. Most of us were "dirty old bikers," but the soldiers, sailors and marines didn't care.

Don't worry so much about what small minded people do. Worry about what you can do to make up for their petty, ignorant hatefulness. You won't get the attention in the press and TV for what you do, but you will make a difference for those who matter.

Pops

dons2346 · 09-27-2011, 12:16 AM

Marlin, there are people that will never know what it means to serve your country. I did, I endured the ridicule but I maintained. I do admit that there was a time when a guy got to close and a "twitch" managed to get him under the chin.

Your friend in Texas is in good hands. He will be OK.

marlin795 · 09-27-2011, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dons2346

Marlin, there are people that will never know what it means to serve your country. I did, I endured the ridicule but I maintained. I do admit that there was a time when a guy got to close and a "twitch" managed to get him under the chin.

Your friend in Texas is in good hands. He will be OK.

I know, this is the first person I knew directly who was injured during this war. I'm ready to go, send me!

howlnmad · 09-27-2011, 03:19 AM

Let me first say thank you for your service. Next, I want you to know that your friend and family and every member of our military are always in my prayers.
I wish I knew why people can be so small and narrow minded. I guess Pops explained it pretty good. Some just see the firefights and killing. But then, the news networks don't show much of the humanitarian efforts our military provides.
The men and a few of the women in my family have covered every branch of service thru the years. It upsets me too when I meet a hater. I try not to hate them but educate them. Sometimes it works.
God bless you and keep you safe.

goofy · 09-27-2011, 05:59 AM

I have to admit I did not think the "haters"were still around

I thought that kind of s*** was gone.When I came home from nam I was given a hard time by alot of people even being told when trying to get a job "We don't hire your kind" refering to me being in the USMC and a nam vet

.THIS IS GETTING ME UPSET.So all I am going to say is I am praying for your friend and my prayers are going to include you, that if you go that you remain safe and healthy.And that ALL of our men and woman come home soon.

terryu1 · 09-27-2011, 06:30 AM

I agree for the most part. I have never served and have the utmost respect for all who did and do now including their families who also suffer hardship. If I see a serviceman at a restaurant I will tell the waitress to bring than check to me and just pay it on way out. They do not need to know who did it just to know that people care. Think about doing this next time you are out.

That said, I respect people who disagree with war in general and you will never change some people. HOWEVER, those same people need to realize that the soldier has not made the decisions that get us involved in conflicts. If they cannot say something respectful to the soldier they need to keep their mouth shut and respect the person. Since when did political belief trump respect and courtesy for our fellow man????

herohog · 09-27-2011, 08:07 AM

I enlisted at the end of Nam at a time when it was not a popular thing to do. Our men were coming home only to be spit on but I had been raised different and knew of their sacrifice and heroism and wanted to give some back to them and my country. If I were to witness such a thing I don't know how I would react other than badly.

bakerconch · 09-27-2011, 08:47 AM

Stories like this make my blood boil. There are a lot of things going through my mind right now and I would love to share them, but I think it will be better for me to keep them to myself and rather use this oportunity to sincerly say thank you to all of our soldiers and veterans. There are people out here that love and appreciate you!

geds · 09-27-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by marlin795

I'm not that old sir, but my father was there near the end. It was bad, almost as bad as now.

No - you are way off on this one! Few people showed any respect for the military or the Country during the Nam era and afterward for a while.

There are some disrespectful people now, but the majority of the Country still stands for the pledge, shows at least some patriotism, and applauds the troops for serving. And strange as it may sound 9/11 was probably the catalyst for turning the feelings toward the military around.

Good luck, thank you for your service, and know that most of the Country appreciates you and your service! There will always be a nut case in society. That is the price we pay for freedom.

American Leader · 09-27-2011, 11:01 AM

Marlin, thanks for your service and God speed! You will be in our prayers,Bob.

marlin795 · 09-27-2011, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by geds

No - you are way off on this one! Few people showed any respect for the military or the Country during the Nam era and afterward for a while.

There are some disrespectful people now, but the majority of the Country still stands for the pledge, shows at least some patriotism, and applauds the troops for serving. And strange as it may sound 9/11 was probably the catalyst for turning the feelings toward the military around.

Good luck, thank you for your service, and know that most of the Country appreciates you and your service! There will always be a nut case in society. That is the price we pay for freedom.

Sorry, it was late and mixed my words around, I meant that Vietnam was really bad but the "War on terror" Isn't getting many good things said about it now either.

marlin795 · 09-27-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by American Leader

Marlin, thanks for your service and God speed! You will be in our prayers,Bob.

Thank you sir, I'm going to need a lot of prayer to survive the next 4 years.

terryu1 · 09-27-2011, 01:53 PM

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Thank you sir, I'm going to need a lot of prayer to survive the next 4 years.

No Marlin. you are probably just like me .. too ornery to die. But prayers sent just in case..

marlin795 · 09-27-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by terryu1

No Marlin. you are probably just like me .. too ornery to die. But prayers sent just in case..

Haha you described me perfectly. I'm too stubborn to ever just give in.

dad2thebone · 09-27-2011, 02:17 PM

Some people are stupid by birth and some are taught ,but during a time of war or "police" action not one of them a..holes would think of enlisting to protect our country. those who do have my respect and thanks for doing what they do..Semper fi

ofitg · 09-27-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by marlin795

Sorry, it was late and mixed my words around, I meant that Vietnam was really bad but the "War on terror" Isn't getting many good things said about it now either.

Marlin, we old farts have seen a few of these so-called "wars" come and go... the War on Communism, the War on Poverty, the War on Drugs... and we didn't win any of them. Communist China is emerging as our greatest competitor, and of course, poverty is still here... and drugs...

The War on Communism was before your time, but it was a big one. A lot of people served in Korea, and Southeast Asia, and still remember their friends who died. Here's an interesting read -

http://www.sodahead.com/fun/the-comm...e/blog-237599/

Maybe I'm just getting too cynical after all these years, but I don't have much trust in anything the politicians say. More often than not, they're making deals with the bad guys and pursuing hidden agendas.

The War on Terror has been going on for several years now. The public does not have the ability to remain hyped up about it indefinitely. Personally, I have questions about our support for the Libyan rebels - what good will come from that? Some of the people we supported were shooting at our soldiers just a few months ago, and I'm afraid we just helped the Muslim Brotherhood grab control in another country. More deals with the bad guys, more hidden agendas.

Unfortunately, there are always a few "headamus rectumus" types who think they should oppose the wars by maligning the military. As previously noted, it was really bad in the late 60s and early 70s; bashing the military and ridiculing our soldiers became a standard part of "pop" culture. I'm glad it's not that way anymore.
You'll have to get used to the fact that people are going to have various opinions about our government's foreign policy; part of our American heritage is to "question authority". It's in our genes.

However, when somebody insults you because of the uniform you wear, that's entirely different. There's no excuse for that.

09-26-2011, 09:21 PM	#1
marlin795 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Calvary Chapel Bible College; Murrieta,CA Posts: 755	It kills me when people hate on our troops... I really do hate it. I have a friend who was in Afghanistan till last week,who is a Combat Engineer and has been serving our Country for 2 years. He is married and is only 21. He hit a IDE in one of the anti-blast big rigs, he was driving and he ran over a 300lb. roadside bomb. Completely demolished the truck and it broke his back and pelvis. He's in Texas now expecting a complete recovery and got the Purple Heart from Obama himself, (surprisingly) He is now being Medically retired which is a bummer for him as he wanted to make it a career.Well I was telling a person about him and I'm a little on edge now as I'll probably go to Afghan on a Stryker. Well the person said he got what he deserved for enlisting and being over there. I was at a lost of words. Really was, all I felt was I wanted to shoot the person. Why hate on our poor guys who give so much for us? It hurts me to hear it and hurts them to give your back for your Country then be spat on for it. Why hate? Why not say thank you and shake their hand or thank them for their service? I don't get it... Pray for him and his wife please... __________________ Native born Californian, adopted by the Great State Of Texas! PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!!! --> Last edited by marlin795; 09-26-2011 at 09:41 PM..

09-26-2011, 09:31 PM	#2
H-D Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Mississippi Posts: 1,334	Re: It kills me when people hate on our troops... yeah thats the kicker they go fight for us to have the right to berate them.... I'm honored by your friend's service and wish him a speedy recovery __________________ And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. Revelation 19:11

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joncutt87 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Kannapolis, NC Contributor Posts: 1,419	Re: It kills me when people hate on our troops... I'm with you 100% __________________ Four words to live by: aequitas, veritas, decus, sacrificium

09-26-2011, 09:39 PM	#4
ofitg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Contributor Posts: 1,447	Re: It kills me when people hate on our troops... Some of the finest people I've ever met were from my days in the service. Military people don't get to select where or why the wars are fought. I'm not happy about the choices our politicians have made, but I admire the troops 100%.

09-26-2011, 09:48 PM	#5
marlin795 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Calvary Chapel Bible College; Murrieta,CA Posts: 755	Re: It kills me when people hate on our troops... Some of the bravest people I ever met have served our Country and sacrificed for it. One guy I know has been in 20 years and has missed the births of all his children and has only spent one Christmas with his family. And his oldest is 12. That's sacrifice at it's greatest. They deserve our utmost respect and thanks. __________________ Native born Californian, adopted by the Great State Of Texas! PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!!!

09-26-2011, 09:48 PM	#6
American Leader Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Iowa Contributor Posts: 1,630	Re: It kills me when people hate on our troops... I don't know how old you are Marlin, but when our guy's came home from nam people spit in their faces, the American soldier was treated like total dirt. And that piece of scum Jane Fonda even turned some of our boys over to the enemy. It all makes me very sick and angry!

09-26-2011, 11:08 PM	#8
Chinook V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: 17 pulls, into the propwash... Contributor Posts: 423	Re: It kills me when people hate on our troops... That is insane. People who speak this way are severly under-educated, or simply stupid. Regardless of where our chosen leaders decide to send our troops, they are there for a reason... One of the main reasons... Is protecting the safety of ALL Americans... Including the idiots unfortunately. My hat's off to you Marlin795, and to your friend who wasn't wanting to give up so easily! We pray for his recovery, and we pray for your safety soldier.

09-26-2011, 11:47 PM	#9
marlin795 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Calvary Chapel Bible College; Murrieta,CA Posts: 755	Re: It kills me when people hate on our troops... People are stupid to run their mouths. if the world goes bad soldiers will not stand in front of them but behind them. It just hurts as the person realized after he said it he remembered I enlisted and have a combat MOS. I will get some terrorists for you guys but not him. __________________ Native born Californian, adopted by the Great State Of Texas! PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!!!

09-26-2011, 11:56 PM	#10
armedandsafe Former Guest Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Moses Lake, WA Posts: 10,344	Re: It kills me when people hate on our troops... The peace-at-any-price ones see only the actions of the soldier during the firefight. The soldier is KILLING! OMG! That must make the soldier bad and, therefore, they must do all they can to stop that evil type from contaminating our society. Those of us who can think beyond the constraints of those narrow minded souls can see the sacrifice for country offered by these brave soldiers and honor them for their committment to keeping people who hate them safe. When I was living in San Diego, during the waning years of Viet Nam, I was part of a group who would be at the dock side or at the airport when a contingent of our military was incoming. We were not there to spit and shout. We were there to escort heroes home. I was proud to be allowed into such a group. Most of us were "dirty old bikers," but the soldiers, sailors and marines didn't care. Don't worry so much about what small minded people do. Worry about what you can do to make up for their petty, ignorant hatefulness. You won't get the attention in the press and TV for what you do, but you will make a difference for those who matter. Pops

09-27-2011, 12:16 AM	#11
dons2346 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Move between WA and points south Contributor Posts: 1,415	Re: It kills me when people hate on our troops... Marlin, there are people that will never know what it means to serve your country. I did, I endured the ridicule but I maintained. I do admit that there was a time when a guy got to close and a "twitch" managed to get him under the chin. Your friend in Texas is in good hands. He will be OK. __________________ "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." --Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, 1785

09-27-2011, 03:19 AM	#13
howlnmad Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Harriman, Tn Contributor Posts: 2,569	Re: It kills me when people hate on our troops... Let me first say thank you for your service. Next, I want you to know that your friend and family and every member of our military are always in my prayers. I wish I knew why people can be so small and narrow minded. I guess Pops explained it pretty good. Some just see the firefights and killing. But then, the news networks don't show much of the humanitarian efforts our military provides. The men and a few of the women in my family have covered every branch of service thru the years. It upsets me too when I meet a hater. I try not to hate them but educate them. Sometimes it works. God bless you and keep you safe. __________________

09-27-2011, 05:59 AM	#14
goofy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Contributor Posts: 2,023	Re: It kills me when people hate on our troops... I have to admit I did not think the "haters"were still around I thought that kind of s*** was gone.When I came home from nam I was given a hard time by alot of people even being told when trying to get a job "We don't hire your kind" refering to me being in the USMC and a nam vet.THIS IS GETTING ME UPSET.So all I am going to say is I am praying for your friend and my prayers are going to include you, that if you go that you remain safe and healthy.And that ALL of our men and woman come home soon. Last edited by goofy; 09-27-2011 at 06:02 AM..

09-27-2011, 06:30 AM	#15
terryu1 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NE Pennsylvania Contributor Posts: 1,245	Re: It kills me when people hate on our troops... I agree for the most part. I have never served and have the utmost respect for all who did and do now including their families who also suffer hardship. If I see a serviceman at a restaurant I will tell the waitress to bring than check to me and just pay it on way out. They do not need to know who did it just to know that people care. Think about doing this next time you are out. That said, I respect people who disagree with war in general and you will never change some people. HOWEVER, those same people need to realize that the soldier has not made the decisions that get us involved in conflicts. If they cannot say something respectful to the soldier they need to keep their mouth shut and respect the person. Since when did political belief trump respect and courtesy for our fellow man???? __________________ ARMED INFIDEL

09-27-2011, 08:07 AM	#16
herohog V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 453	Re: It kills me when people hate on our troops... I enlisted at the end of Nam at a time when it was not a popular thing to do. Our men were coming home only to be spit on but I had been raised different and knew of their sacrifice and heroism and wanted to give some back to them and my country. If I were to witness such a thing I don't know how I would react other than badly. __________________ Speedy: Pres, NW Chapter, League VP of Louisiana Open Carry Awareness League AKA: Hero Hog, Dr. Speed, "The Brass Mangler" and "That fat, old, balding, Grey-bearded gimpy guy" NRA, LSA, USN-DAV *Winning and getting the prize aren't the same it would appear... TWICE!*

09-27-2011, 08:47 AM	#17
bakerconch V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: North Florida Posts: 259	Re: It kills me when people hate on our troops... Stories like this make my blood boil. There are a lot of things going through my mind right now and I would love to share them, but I think it will be better for me to keep them to myself and rather use this oportunity to sincerly say thank you to all of our soldiers and veterans. There are people out here that love and appreciate you!

09-27-2011, 11:01 AM	#19
American Leader Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Iowa Contributor Posts: 1,630	Re: It kills me when people hate on our troops... Marlin, thanks for your service and God speed! You will be in our prayers,Bob.

09-27-2011, 02:17 PM	#24
dad2thebone Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,357	Re: It kills me when people hate on our troops... Some people are stupid by birth and some are taught ,but during a time of war or "police" action not one of them a..holes would think of enlisting to protect our country. those who do have my respect and thanks for doing what they do..Semper fi __________________ 9-11-01 we will never forget.And then we have dec 7 now it's Nov 6th all sad days for our country. And dont whizz on my leg then tell me it's raining.