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Old 10-14-2011, 12:33 PM   #1
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Default Let's Start Fixing Our Government ....

_*Congressional Reform Act of 2011*_

1. No Tenure / No Pension.

A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no
pay when they are out of office.

2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social
Security.

All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the
Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into
the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the
American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.

3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all
Americans do.

4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise.
Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

5. Congress loses their current health care system and
participates in the same health care system as the American people.

6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the
American people.

7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void
effective 1/1/12. The American people did not make this
contract with Congressmen.

Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in
Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers
envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their
term(s), then go home and back to work.

If each of you contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will
only take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive
the message. Maybe it is time.

THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!!!!!
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Old 10-14-2011, 12:37 PM   #2
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Old 10-14-2011, 01:06 PM   #3
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Amen brother! Where do I sign?

That bunch of yahoos has been completely out of control for way too long!!! No wonder they can't get anything done, they're too busy lining their own pockets with gold.
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Old 10-14-2011, 01:36 PM   #4
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I move to approve and vote AYE!
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Old 10-14-2011, 01:38 PM   #5
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I too agree whole heartedly.
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Old 10-14-2011, 02:13 PM   #6
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_*Congressional Reform Act of 2011*_

1. No Tenure / No Pension.

A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no
pay when they are out of office.

2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social
Security.

All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the
Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into
the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the
American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.

3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all
Americans do.

4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise.
Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

5. Congress loses their current health care system and
participates in the same health care system as the American people.

6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the
American people.

7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void
effective 1/1/12. The American people did not make this
contract with Congressmen.

Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in
Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers
envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their
term(s), then go home and back to work.

If each of you contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will
only take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive
the message. Maybe it is time.

THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!!!!!
Awesome! Unfortunately, the only woman with the cajones to actually get this done has not decided to run for office this election cycle...
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Old 10-14-2011, 03:02 PM   #7
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sounds like something that should have been done long ago.what do we do with all the lobbiests?Oh wait i dont care hahaha
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Old 10-14-2011, 05:36 PM   #8
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Yeah right, good luck with that. The only way you will make this possible is to get rid of all current Rep and Dem and get people in there that truly care about America.

So go out and vote for any Dem or Rep and you will never make this happen.
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Old 10-14-2011, 06:24 PM   #9
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Yeah right, good luck with that. The only way you will make this possible is to get rid of all current Rep and Dem and get people in there that truly care about America.

So go out and vote for any Dem or Rep and you will never make this happen.
I disagree in a way.

I don't see it so much as who you vote for, as to how long you vote for them.

The problem we face is the firmly entrenched 'good ole boy' network. Anyone that's been there for 10 years, has 'learned the ropes' so to speak. And they pass that along to any and all newcomers. It has nothing to do with political party affiliation. It's all about lobbyists. Get rid of them, and things will change.

As that's not likely to happen, the next best thing is to vote 'em ALL out. If we're gonna allow big business and the money horders to influence our critters, the least we can do is make it as difficult as possible. Make 'em start over every two years!

The largest infection to our federal officials, is the fact that they all act on a state level. Scratch my back and I'll scratch yours. Gimme dollars fer MY state, and I'll return the favor. All the while, they are avoiding what the Constitution considers the role of the fed.

Vote 'em all out!
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Old 10-14-2011, 06:25 PM   #10
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8. All federal statutes currently in force will expire in ten years, unless Congress and the President extend them. No new laws, and no extensions to old laws, will last longer than ten years without further action by Congress and the President.
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Old 10-14-2011, 09:30 PM   #11
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Old 10-14-2011, 09:44 PM   #12
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Let me give you all a little reality check. "The people who are in the positions of power", the Senators, Congress persons, the President and the Supreme court are the only ones who can change any of this.

Sitting here on a firearms forum and making a list will accomplish absolutely NOTHING.

Getting out and voting the right people into these positions of power is where your power starts and ends.

The problems we see, is because we elect weak, ineffective, liberal, corrupt people into positions of power. We also have an American society that has become weak and dependent and about 50% of them get "free" money from the federal government and as such don't want things to change.
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:05 PM   #13
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as we learned in the War of 1812, we DO need a professional army. we do not, however, need professional politicians.
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Old 10-15-2011, 01:28 PM   #14
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I agree. ALSO. If someone earned over 500,000 or thereabouts income they DO NOT need to collect Social Security. I know they paid in but if they are fortunate enough to make that kind of money they do not need to collect it back.
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Old 10-15-2011, 02:35 PM   #15
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Awesome! Unfortunately, the only woman with the cajones to actually get this done has not decided to run for office this election cycle...
+1 LOL!!!
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Old 10-15-2011, 02:38 PM   #16
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I agree. ALSO. If someone earned over 500,000 or thereabouts income they DO NOT need to collect Social Security. I know they paid in but if they are fortunate enough to make that kind of money they do not need to collect it back.
I'm on SS, but I could live with that!
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