restoring a 22 - The Firearms Forum

gun-nut · 10-27-2011, 07:32 PM

I am restoring a j stevens 22 crack shot-26 for a friend of mine. looking for some picks of this gun to know how the blueing looked when they were new. And is this considered as a rolling block or a falling block? It looks to be in working order. I have personally magnifluxed the bbl. There are no defects. I was just nosy to find imfo on this gun. Its a fine looking toy. And what brand of ammo would be best to use in it? I know that CCI stingers will be to hot to use. And i was thinking that the supper X winchester might be too hot as well. Thanks in advance.

Big Shrek · 10-30-2011, 02:57 PM

Rust-brown was the old style of bluing.
There are Plum-Brown Birchwood-Casey kits that give the same look.
Follow Their Directions Precisely!!!

If you go with a Cold Blue, there are a few things to know to get a good looking finish.

First...Prep Prep Prep Prep Prep...and then Prep some more. Be as OCD as Monk about Prep.
Good enough, ain't enough, not for cold blues. Its gotta be dang-near Perfect.
The more prep you do, the better the finished result.

Second, do it in a WARM room. The warmer the better. Cold is your enemy with cold blues...strangely enough.
You'll want an 80+ degree room...constantly warm...it helps the bluing to soak in better (don't ask me why, I ain't no scientist).

Third, apply liberally...its the only thing I do in a liberal style

Put plenty on.

Fourth, after a few days of letting the the bluing/browning stuff do its thing, smother it in Cosmoline,
and stick it in a storage bag for a few months in a relatively warm room.
That helps the bluing/browning cure nicely.

gun-nut · 10-30-2011, 04:01 PM

Thanks! The guy wants it blued so so much for the oringinal finnish. thing. but hay i love the browning tip that will help in the future projects.

gun-nut · 11-05-2011, 06:09 AM

well the gun is done and the guy was impressed. i did shoot just a few shorts in it and wow! I wish i owned it. If i would have been smart i should have took a few picks. But the man gave me another gun. Its and TOPPER 48 H&R 12 Gage. I found out that he pay just a few bucks for them at a garage sale. they were in a sheet wraped up in some laydies an attic for the past 30 years. Her husband been dead for them 30 years. So ya they are a mess, rust in every place you can think of. But hay thats the kind of things i like to do. Someone is got to give them a 2nd life.

permafrost · 11-05-2011, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gun-nut

well the gun is done and the guy was impressed. i did shoot just a few shorts in it and wow! I wish i owned it. If i would have been smart i should have took a few picks. But the man gave me another gun. Its and TOPPER 48 H&R 12 Gage. I found out that he pay just a few bucks for them at a garage sale. they were in a sheet wraped up in some laydies an attic for the past 30 years. Her husband been dead for them 30 years. So ya they are a mess, rust in every place you can think of. But hay thats the kind of things i like to do. Someone is got to give them a 2nd life.

Gun-nut, I like bringing them back from the dead almost as much as shooting them! I can relate.

gun-nut · 11-06-2011, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by permafrost

Gun-nut, I like bringing them back from the dead almost as much as shooting them! I can relate.

Ya! Its lots of fun. Thats how i got my collection to grow. I ran the gun shows and picked guns up at " hay give me 50.00 for the junk" so i grab it and a week latter they were fixed and shooting. Its funny how so many people walk by them beat up rusted thing and dont look back at it and say just a little work and it will be a fine shooter for play time. I did a trade back last winter and got a Norinco T54 9mm that needs the extractor and spring. Just got to get my butt in gear and call Gun Parts and order the parts.

jack404 · 11-06-2011, 03:47 AM

gun nut, for future reference a old time bluing and browning book
http://minus.com/mvbANUr ( cover and intro )
http://minus.com/mvbxqr4 (part 1)
http://minus.com/mvbsVLp ( part 2)

gun-nut · 11-08-2011, 03:29 PM

Thanks jack

gun-nut · 11-12-2011, 06:50 AM

I have posted the shotgun resto here.
http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=97137

Bigbill · 11-18-2011, 09:34 AM

Cold Bluing;

I wash the gun with rubbing alcohol to make sure its squeeky clean.

Then i go over the complete ara to be cold blues with 0000 steelwool to remove any small burrs that maybe present.

Then the metal needs to be heated, i use a hair dryer but laying it in the hot sun will work too. Then i apply a few coats of cold bluing and repeat the process till its the color depthness i want. While its wet with each coat of cold bluing i rub the metal with 0000 steelwool to work the bluing into the metal more too. For some reason the bluing doesn't always attach itself to the metal unless we work it into with 0000 steelwool.
Remember to keep the metal warm too. Bill

10-27-2011, 07:32 PM	#1
gun-nut Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: ohio Contributor Posts: 931	restoring a 22 I am restoring a j stevens 22 crack shot-26 for a friend of mine. looking for some picks of this gun to know how the blueing looked when they were new. And is this considered as a rolling block or a falling block? It looks to be in working order. I have personally magnifluxed the bbl. There are no defects. I was just nosy to find imfo on this gun. Its a fine looking toy. And what brand of ammo would be best to use in it? I know that CCI stingers will be to hot to use. And i was thinking that the supper X winchester might be too hot as well. Thanks in advance. __________________ Don't retreat just reload. -->

10-30-2011, 02:57 PM	#2
Big Shrek Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NorthWest Florida Posts: 923	Re: restoring a 22 Rust-brown was the old style of bluing. There are Plum-Brown Birchwood-Casey kits that give the same look. Follow Their Directions Precisely!!! If you go with a Cold Blue, there are a few things to know to get a good looking finish. First...Prep Prep Prep Prep Prep...and then Prep some more. Be as OCD as Monk about Prep. Good enough, ain't enough, not for cold blues. Its gotta be dang-near Perfect. The more prep you do, the better the finished result. Second, do it in a WARM room. The warmer the better. Cold is your enemy with cold blues...strangely enough. You'll want an 80+ degree room...constantly warm...it helps the bluing to soak in better (don't ask me why, I ain't no scientist). Third, apply liberally...its the only thing I do in a liberal style Put plenty on. Fourth, after a few days of letting the the bluing/browning stuff do its thing, smother it in Cosmoline, and stick it in a storage bag for a few months in a relatively warm room. That helps the bluing/browning cure nicely. __________________ Marlin Specialist Calico Specialist A gun should be a tool in the hands of a deadly weapon, not a deadly weapon in the hands of a tool.

10-30-2011, 04:01 PM	#3
gun-nut Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: ohio Contributor Posts: 931	Re: restoring a 22 Thanks! The guy wants it blued so so much for the oringinal finnish. thing. but hay i love the browning tip that will help in the future projects. __________________ Don't retreat just reload.

11-05-2011, 06:09 AM	#4
gun-nut Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: ohio Contributor Posts: 931	Re: restoring a 22 well the gun is done and the guy was impressed. i did shoot just a few shorts in it and wow! I wish i owned it. If i would have been smart i should have took a few picks. But the man gave me another gun. Its and TOPPER 48 H&R 12 Gage. I found out that he pay just a few bucks for them at a garage sale. they were in a sheet wraped up in some laydies an attic for the past 30 years. Her husband been dead for them 30 years. So ya they are a mess, rust in every place you can think of. But hay thats the kind of things i like to do. Someone is got to give them a 2nd life. __________________ Don't retreat just reload.

11-06-2011, 03:47 AM	#7
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: restoring a 22 gun nut, for future reference a old time bluing and browning book http://minus.com/mvbANUr ( cover and intro ) http://minus.com/mvbxqr4 (part 1) http://minus.com/mvbsVLp ( part 2)

11-08-2011, 03:29 PM	#8
gun-nut Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: ohio Contributor Posts: 931	Re: restoring a 22 Thanks jack __________________ Don't retreat just reload.

11-12-2011, 06:50 AM	#9
gun-nut Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: ohio Contributor Posts: 931	Re: restoring a 22 I have posted the shotgun resto here. http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=97137 __________________ Don't retreat just reload.

11-18-2011, 09:34 AM	#10
Bigbill V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Northeast(ct) Posts: 216	Re: restoring a 22 Cold Bluing; I wash the gun with rubbing alcohol to make sure its squeeky clean. Then i go over the complete ara to be cold blues with 0000 steelwool to remove any small burrs that maybe present. Then the metal needs to be heated, i use a hair dryer but laying it in the hot sun will work too. Then i apply a few coats of cold bluing and repeat the process till its the color depthness i want. While its wet with each coat of cold bluing i rub the metal with 0000 steelwool to work the bluing into the metal more too. For some reason the bluing doesn't always attach itself to the metal unless we work it into with 0000 steelwool. Remember to keep the metal warm too. Bill