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geds · 11-02-2011, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Zhurh

Here's another dog question. Ya know how 2 female dogs in same house will fight to the death sometimes and then others get along just fine. Well, now we're down to one dog, had to shoot/bury my old friend a few weeks back and just have one 5 year old female plott hound for a house dog. Kids are off at school, only wife & me & dog & cat (thats in it's own world). So of late the female plott has started growling at the wife, doesn't want her to pet her, only give her food kinda thing. Dog follows me around, sits nx to wherever I am; won't even give the wifey the time of day; it's nutty. no joke. It pisses the wife right off, I tell her the dog must have been a loose lady in a past life.

Any you guys ever have a female house dog that doesn't want around any other women in the house? What did ya do besides shoot the dog and get another; as I ain't doing that just yet.

Zhurth - you just reposted the same message from a little while ago. Are you having computer bugs?

carver · 11-02-2011, 05:18 PM

Not today, just bugs! Jab, Jab!!!

vytoland · 11-02-2011, 06:01 PM

rollin n the stink

...just comes naturally

dustydog · 11-02-2011, 06:08 PM

Get back control.I work with rescue pit bulls,and there is always a struggle for alpha,whether male or female.Establish that you and your wife are the alpha pairing,and the female Plott should fall in line.Hope you have had a lot of experience with the Plott bloodline,bear hard dogs can be a handful.

geds · 11-02-2011, 07:12 PM

Zurth

If your wife can hold the dog by the muzzle it shows the dog that your wife is dominant. Don't squeeze too tightly, just firmly and talk to the dog, and don't let the dog jerk loose. After a few times, the dog will get the message and submit.

Be careful that the dog doesn't snap and bite the missus or you'll be in deeper trouble as she will show you who is the alpha of the house!

Zhurh · 11-03-2011, 01:53 AM

Geds, we are still on dial up out here, get knocked off right in the middle of sending. After signing back on sometimes sends the first post. Thanks for the response too everybody.

This dog won't bite anybody, we just never had a house dog that would even consider growlin at family member. I've been grabbing her by her snout and she stops for a few weeks. If I punish the dog, she goes into seclusion for a day or so, ha ha, never had a dog get their feeling hurt so quick, kinda funny and nutty. Tell ya how spooky this dog is, last winter had wolves in my garbage cans, no joke. My old male ran out towards shed a barking, ready to fight the wolves, yet female run back up on the porch, wolves took off when I went out with flashlight & gun & started shooting.

We have had hounds for over 30 years and when I was a kid too, lived for coon huntin back east. Had blk & tans, blueticks, walkers, redbones, had a bunch but they were all outside hunting dogs. Got our first plott from Indian neighbors 14 years back and just put that old friend down. Got the female from good bloodlines in wash state, bear hounds; just never hunted her as our country is too rugged & no roads; just lose dogs feed the wolves.

I find the plotts to be more hard headed but when you get them right, they are more social than any other hound line, takes 3-4 years where as any other hound line, I'd have the way I wanted them by 1 1/2 years. It's minus 22 right now at 10 pm, short haired dogs have it tough outside up here, why house dogs.

Part is that dog is from top notch bloodlines, very high strung, anytime she gets excited , she goes off to barking like treeing. In the past, I always preferred pleasure hunters to competition dogs. Pleasure hunters were always straight, maybe a bit slower, but you could bet money on what they had up the tree. Always seemed that top bloodline dogs were more apt to run off game.

Carver, don't laugh, one family (bunch of young kids too) down the school has had lice for a couple months, can't seem to get rid of them and keep spreading them back to other kids, ha ha. Wife is one of the teachers has to deal with homeopathic remedy parents, they ain't ever gonna kill those lice, ha ha. Don't want them bugs in my house, heck fleas can't even make it in Alaska, but them lice do. Bugs BUgs

permafrost · 11-03-2011, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jack404

yeah but they peel just the same as the short haired ones

You been hangin' around them asian's to much, Jack!

rosierita · 11-03-2011, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JLA

I know but his momma and daddy werent longhairs. They were both skronny shorthair chihuahuas with paranoid schizophrenic personalities. Rags is a go getter. Hes a lab stuck in a small body.

i have a friend who raises them. both parents can have short hair & have a long hair baby.

its great that he has the personality of a lab tho!

geds · 11-03-2011, 09:14 AM

Glad everything's OK in your cold world! When you grab the dog by the muzzle you exert your dominance as the alpha and the dog submits to you. Your wife needs to do the same to the dog so the dog learns her place in the family.

If you watch dogs interact with other dogs, the alpha always establishes dominance by applying enough force until the other dog submits.

The muzzle hold is a trick taught to me by a professional dog handler. You have to be careful reaching for the muzzle as you might get bit. If you are petting the dog and come over the head and grab it - just enough to firmly hold her and not let her jerk loose, she will struggle at first, then submit.

Little Rooster · 11-03-2011, 07:35 PM

My dog (female) does not want my wife with in 2 feet of me.(it's kind of nice) She will tune her up if she tries. On the other hand I better not walk into the bed room while my wife is sleeping either. I think she'd would hary kary someone trying to break in.
She does not like other dogs and she hates cats. My sister in law had some little antique tea cup dog, it crawled up on my lap, My dog pushed her off and would growl at her if she got closer. I think it's the motherly thing with them. Even though "Killer" is still a virgin she is very protective of the family.

millwright · 11-03-2011, 07:54 PM

He's taking back his "discovery" to the pack ! Which, in most cases, is your household ! >MW

Little Rooster · 11-04-2011, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by millwright

He's taking back his "discovery" to the pack ! Which, in most cases, is your household ! >MW

good answer to the original question

All dogs given the chance will do it

Zhurh · 11-05-2011, 01:05 PM

Wifey's been grabbing the females muzzle and telling her no, then hugging her when she starts lifting up her lips a growlin and wife says it's working too.

Here's the plotts I've been talking about.

Maximilian II · 11-05-2011, 06:54 PM

As to nasty stuff for rolling in, even froo-froos do it. Every time the neighbor's cows would get the runs my miniature poodle Chad would gleefully grind it into his dog-fro. It's really difficult to get poo out of a poodle! And you end up with just a "dle."
To the bonding/jealousy thing, dogs have a different mind than we do. All feeling, no logic. When they bond they BOND. Our female Jack Russell loves me and the wife, all other living things are potential bite targets. She even has special attacks for different critters; she bites the male Jack in the neck or face area, but bites the Rat Terrier in the feet or legs. Humans she hits in the face. Yes, she jumps her 1 foot tall body to nose height and puts 19 pounds of JR and teeth into it! I had to fix the dogsitter's nose. Expensive.

hunte567 · 11-10-2011, 12:34 PM

Right after you bathe them the first thing they do is roll around in the dirt. Go figure

geds · 11-10-2011, 05:55 PM

Zhurth - those are fine lookin' dawgs, but that look MIGHTY cold!

raven818 · 11-11-2011, 06:27 PM

My Rotty was 6 weeks old when I got her. Her parents obviously had no in-field experience. I had to teach her to do that by following my example.

LittlestoneAmmo · 11-23-2011, 10:48 AM

It's either that their sense of smell is so different and they like the odor of different things, or they want to cover their scent, or (my favorite) it's their revenge against us for all the things we don't let them do, lol.

HunterAlpha1 · 11-23-2011, 11:21 AM

my mom's service dog named Shelley, a golden retriever, absolutely WILL NOT roll in anything wet or messy, not even rain, dew, or frost. she does like snow though.

two dogs ago we had an Australian shepherd named Checkov. this was when i was a kid and i was a little monster towards animals. i tormented this poor dog constantly until i was old enough to know better, but by that time it was too late; he would growl at me any time i entered the room. my mom started swatting him with a rolled up newspaper when he growled at me, and it started to work but by that time he was old and starting to go crazy so we had to put him down

11-02-2011, 05:18 PM	#27
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11-02-2011, 06:08 PM	#29
dustydog V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 209	Re: question about dogs Get back control.I work with rescue pit bulls,and there is always a struggle for alpha,whether male or female.Establish that you and your wife are the alpha pairing,and the female Plott should fall in line.Hope you have had a lot of experience with the Plott bloodline,bear hard dogs can be a handful.

11-02-2011, 07:12 PM	#30
geds Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,706	Re: question about dogs Zurth If your wife can hold the dog by the muzzle it shows the dog that your wife is dominant. Don't squeeze too tightly, just firmly and talk to the dog, and don't let the dog jerk loose. After a few times, the dog will get the message and submit. Be careful that the dog doesn't snap and bite the missus or you'll be in deeper trouble as she will show you who is the alpha of the house!

11-03-2011, 01:53 AM	#31
Zhurh Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Upper Yukon, Alaska Posts: 1,834	Re: question about dogs Geds, we are still on dial up out here, get knocked off right in the middle of sending. After signing back on sometimes sends the first post. Thanks for the response too everybody. This dog won't bite anybody, we just never had a house dog that would even consider growlin at family member. I've been grabbing her by her snout and she stops for a few weeks. If I punish the dog, she goes into seclusion for a day or so, ha ha, never had a dog get their feeling hurt so quick, kinda funny and nutty. Tell ya how spooky this dog is, last winter had wolves in my garbage cans, no joke. My old male ran out towards shed a barking, ready to fight the wolves, yet female run back up on the porch, wolves took off when I went out with flashlight & gun & started shooting. We have had hounds for over 30 years and when I was a kid too, lived for coon huntin back east. Had blk & tans, blueticks, walkers, redbones, had a bunch but they were all outside hunting dogs. Got our first plott from Indian neighbors 14 years back and just put that old friend down. Got the female from good bloodlines in wash state, bear hounds; just never hunted her as our country is too rugged & no roads; just lose dogs feed the wolves. I find the plotts to be more hard headed but when you get them right, they are more social than any other hound line, takes 3-4 years where as any other hound line, I'd have the way I wanted them by 1 1/2 years. It's minus 22 right now at 10 pm, short haired dogs have it tough outside up here, why house dogs. Part is that dog is from top notch bloodlines, very high strung, anytime she gets excited , she goes off to barking like treeing. In the past, I always preferred pleasure hunters to competition dogs. Pleasure hunters were always straight, maybe a bit slower, but you could bet money on what they had up the tree. Always seemed that top bloodline dogs were more apt to run off game. Carver, don't laugh, one family (bunch of young kids too) down the school has had lice for a couple months, can't seem to get rid of them and keep spreading them back to other kids, ha ha. Wife is one of the teachers has to deal with homeopathic remedy parents, they ain't ever gonna kill those lice, ha ha. Don't want them bugs in my house, heck fleas can't even make it in Alaska, but them lice do. Bugs BUgs

11-03-2011, 09:14 AM	#34
geds Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,706	Re: question about dogs Glad everything's OK in your cold world! When you grab the dog by the muzzle you exert your dominance as the alpha and the dog submits to you. Your wife needs to do the same to the dog so the dog learns her place in the family. If you watch dogs interact with other dogs, the alpha always establishes dominance by applying enough force until the other dog submits. The muzzle hold is a trick taught to me by a professional dog handler. You have to be careful reaching for the muzzle as you might get bit. If you are petting the dog and come over the head and grab it - just enough to firmly hold her and not let her jerk loose, she will struggle at first, then submit.

11-03-2011, 07:35 PM	#35
Little Rooster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Old Dominion Posts: 564	Re: question about dogs My dog (female) does not want my wife with in 2 feet of me.(it's kind of nice) She will tune her up if she tries. On the other hand I better not walk into the bed room while my wife is sleeping either. I think she'd would hary kary someone trying to break in. She does not like other dogs and she hates cats. My sister in law had some little antique tea cup dog, it crawled up on my lap, My dog pushed her off and would growl at her if she got closer. I think it's the motherly thing with them. Even though "Killer" is still a virgin she is very protective of the family. __________________ "Far better it is to dare mighty things, than to take rank with those poor, timid spirits who know Victory Nor Defeat" Teddy Roosevelt

11-03-2011, 07:54 PM	#36
millwright Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,445	Re: question about dogs He's taking back his "discovery" to the pack ! Which, in most cases, is your household ! >MW

11-05-2011, 01:05 PM	#38
Zhurh Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Upper Yukon, Alaska Posts: 1,834	Re: question about dogs Wifey's been grabbing the females muzzle and telling her no, then hugging her when she starts lifting up her lips a growlin and wife says it's working too. Here's the plotts I've been talking about.

11-05-2011, 06:54 PM	#39
Maximilian II Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Northwest GA Posts: 1,385	Re: question about dogs As to nasty stuff for rolling in, even froo-froos do it. Every time the neighbor's cows would get the runs my miniature poodle Chad would gleefully grind it into his dog-fro. It's really difficult to get poo out of a poodle! And you end up with just a "dle." To the bonding/jealousy thing, dogs have a different mind than we do. All feeling, no logic. When they bond they BOND. Our female Jack Russell loves me and the wife, all other living things are potential bite targets. She even has special attacks for different critters; she bites the male Jack in the neck or face area, but bites the Rat Terrier in the feet or legs. Humans she hits in the face. Yes, she jumps her 1 foot tall body to nose height and puts 19 pounds of JR and teeth into it! I had to fix the dogsitter's nose. Expensive. __________________ Karma is just justice, without the satisfaction. And I don't believe in justice. -Joe Sarno, bagman.

11-10-2011, 12:34 PM	#40
hunte567 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 57	Re: question about dogs Right after you bathe them the first thing they do is roll around in the dirt. Go figure

11-10-2011, 05:55 PM	#41
geds Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,706	Re: question about dogs Zhurth - those are fine lookin' dawgs, but that look MIGHTY cold!

11-11-2011, 06:27 PM	#42
raven818 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Jax, Fl. Contributor Posts: 4,439	Re: question about dogs My Rotty was 6 weeks old when I got her. Her parents obviously had no in-field experience. I had to teach her to do that by following my example. __________________ Firearms and Salt Water Fishing Retired 42 Years LEO

11-23-2011, 10:48 AM	#43
LittlestoneAmmo Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 16	Re: question about dogs It's either that their sense of smell is so different and they like the odor of different things, or they want to cover their scent, or (my favorite) it's their revenge against us for all the things we don't let them do, lol. __________________ Gregg Steinle Owner Littlestone Ammunition

11-23-2011, 11:21 AM	#44
HunterAlpha1 Former Guest Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Yorktown, VA Posts: 1,049	Re: question about dogs my mom's service dog named Shelley, a golden retriever, absolutely WILL NOT roll in anything wet or messy, not even rain, dew, or frost. she does like snow though. two dogs ago we had an Australian shepherd named Checkov. this was when i was a kid and i was a little monster towards animals. i tormented this poor dog constantly until i was old enough to know better, but by that time it was too late; he would growl at me any time i entered the room. my mom started swatting him with a rolled up newspaper when he growled at me, and it started to work but by that time he was old and starting to go crazy so we had to put him down