How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker - The Firearms Forum

Deacon_Man · 11-11-2011, 04:28 PM

I am thinking about buying this .22 caliber 1911 pistol. I want something that does'nt cost a arm and a leg to shoot as offten as I want. Do any of you know anything about Chiappa Firearms 1911-22 Semi-Automatic Rimfire Handgun .22 Long Rifle 5" Barrel 11 Rounds Wood Grips Black Finish?

jlloyd73 · 11-11-2011, 05:49 PM

I haven't shot one yet, but I know a few people that have one and they love it.

Brisk44 · 11-11-2011, 06:16 PM

What do they run deac?

Chinook · 11-11-2011, 07:53 PM

Tombstone Tactical sells em right now for the unusually low price of 205 bux, for the base model. Shipped, with FFL fees included, it'd be less that 240 for the most part, if ya go thru them.
Chiappa 1911-22

Ive never handled this model, but would love to hear a report from anyone that owns one... Or is planning on making the purchase.

6x6pinz · 11-11-2011, 08:13 PM

I bought one a year ago or so. It shoots OK but is another one of the aluminum/zinc type pistols. Plastic magazines but seem to be decent enough for a 22. The weight and the feel is there. I have only had a few issues with mine FTF or FTE but not too bad considering what it is. Not too bad as far as accuracy goes but don't expect it to be one of those pass down through generations type of firearms. Fun for today is what it is.
the slide is so heavy and the springs so light that if you put a loaded mag in it you can literally move the gun forward and back very quickly and load the first round.

rcairflr · 11-12-2011, 05:57 AM

I would take a close look at the Browning Buckmarks and Ruger Mark III pistols.

jim brady · 11-12-2011, 08:47 AM

Hey guys - a question for you: My older brother bought one of these, and he's having failure to eject the empty cases. He bought the pistol used, and said it was pretty dirty. He said it extracts empties just fine, but the empty cases are not ejected clear of the slide while firing.

Without seeing it, I advised him to give it a good cleaning and lube. He thinks the problem may be with the ejector. Like I said, I haven't seen the pistol myself, so I can't offer much. Are failures to eject common with this pistol? Also, is the ejector a fixed-piece attached to the frame like on a 1911, or is it somehow a part of the mag assembley?

Thanks in advance for any help - Jim

carver · 11-12-2011, 08:48 AM

I don't know anything about the Chiappa Firearms, but I can see from your post that they are cheap. I have had a lot of bad luck with CHEAP guns! They shoot, but not all that well, and they don't hold up well. Why not take a look at the Ruger single six, or even the Taurus double action revolvers.

CHW2021 · 11-12-2011, 09:22 AM

If my memory serves, the American Rifleman did a article on these pistols and seemed impressed. Search the NRA magazine for that piece.

CampingJosh · 11-12-2011, 09:30 AM

My local shops sells a TON of these .22 1911s. The guys in there will tell you that they have very, very few complaints from the GSG 1911, but the Chiappa 1911 isn't nearly as well built.
Take that for what it's worth.

Old Grump · 11-12-2011, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim brady

Hey guys - a question for you: My older brother bought one of these, and he's having failure to eject the empty cases. He bought the pistol used, and said it was pretty dirty. He said it extracts empties just fine, but the empty cases are not ejected clear of the slide while firing.

Without seeing it, I advised him to give it a good cleaning and lube. He thinks the problem may be with the ejector. Like I said, I haven't seen the pistol myself, so I can't offer much. Are failures to eject common with this pistol? Also, is the ejector a fixed-piece attached to the frame like on a 1911, or is it somehow a part of the mag assembley?

Thanks in advance for any help - Jim

If the gun, barrel and chamber are clean try higher velocity ammo. If you already use high vel ammo order a new extractor and/or spring , it's an easy fix.

Here is the manual if he doesn't already have one.

http://mkschiappa.com/PDFs/Manual_1911-22.pdf

cutter · 11-12-2011, 10:41 AM

I have the Sig 1911-22. Very similar and have hah no trouble at all. I really like this as a trainer! If I start flinching or anything like that, I go back and fire this and correct what I am doing wrong. Will they last a lifetime, I dought it but look at the price, not very expensive. They are also good for someone to start out on. I have the single six and ruger 22-45. They wil last a lifetime but are not as good for pratice as an actual 1911 model. All of my friends also liked it. I think they are good for what they are, trainer and cheaper to shoot. JMHO.

jim brady · 11-12-2011, 10:44 AM

Thanks for that link, Old Grump! He's a retired LEO, former Marine and knows lots about firearms and reloading. He was just stumped on the ejection issue on this pistol. I've been the unofficial family gunsmith for more than 50 years, but he lives in Central Missouri and I'm in Colorado, so it's been long distance problem solving about this pistol.

FTE is normally associated (to my mind) with 1.) ammo types, 2.) broken, dirty or bent ejectors, 3.) dirty /slide/barrel/chamber or 4.) lube issues. There can be other issues, but these have often been the primary things I've found to cause this.

6x6pinz · 11-12-2011, 03:44 PM

the ejector is part of the magazine. The magazines are plastic so he would need to make sure the plastic part is not broken/worn

The one thing about these pistols is they can not be dry fired. The firing pin will hit the top of the chamber opening leaving a burr. This will cause the round to hang up and not eject properly. A simple touch with a jewelers file will fix this.

BETH · 11-12-2011, 05:19 PM

i have shot the mark 111 and loved it?

aandabooks · 11-13-2011, 09:42 PM

Can't get one in Illinois because the metal they are made from has a melt point below 800F. MC Sports had them in their ad for $239 and when I asked, that is what the salesguy told me.

I bought a Colt 1911a1 in .22 a couple weeks ago and absolutely love it. Steel frame, aluminum slide and metal mags. It is more than the Chiappa though.

3/2 STA SS · 11-14-2011, 10:23 PM

Ruger Mark III.....Just do it. In the end you get what you pay for.

The Duke · 11-15-2011, 08:57 AM

Ive looked at the Puma, but came away a little unimpressed...I think it was the balance, maybe or something...I bought the GSG 1911-22 and very well pleased...It will shoot absolutely anything I stuff in the magazine...even some 30 years old Fed Lightnings...The Sig 1911-22 is made by GSG and is identical except for the slide stamping, plus a little more expensive...

Jim Hauff · 11-17-2011, 12:02 PM

Look into the CZ KADET - a .22 lr that is identical to the CZ-75. I recently bought one from a friend - it is extremely reliable and reasonably accurate (probably better than I can shoot, at this point in life.)

somawas · 11-18-2011, 06:31 PM

I've got the Umarex USA Colt model of this plinker. It's not a target gun, so as a plinker, it's fun to shoot. Other than the barrel being fixed to the frame, it breaks down almost like a 1911/ 45ACP and the beaver tail safety and thumb safties operate like a 1911/ 45ACP.

Deacon_Man · 11-20-2011, 05:30 PM

I took my Chiappa 1911-22 to the indoor range today. I set my target at 15 yards and the pistol held a two inch pattern with every clip I shot. I never had a jam or fte out of the 80 rounds I sent down range. I really was very empressed with the pistol. I was shooting federal .22lr high volosity bulk I bought at Walmart for $15.49 a box of 550 rounds. It sure was a lot of fun shooting all I wanted and not breaking the bank doing it. Before I went to the range I field striped the the gun and cleaned it real good and re-oiled everything except the slide grooves. I went out to my shop and got a little of grafite greese and lubed the slide grooves with it. The grease really made the slide work smooth. The manual that came with the gun said I would have failures in the first 150 rounds during the break-in, that just did not happen.
John

todd51 · 11-20-2011, 08:06 PM

Ain't it great when a plan works out just the way you wanted. Great shooting and a lot of fun to come.

Enzo_Guy · 11-21-2011, 05:17 PM

I've heard GSG is one of the best brands for .22LR 1911s, they seem to get pretty good reviews and GSG is known for their tactical .22LR carbines.

The only thing I know about Chiappa is they make some ugly revolvers! Never seen anything tabout their .22 1911s, if I was to purchase one myself I'd stick to GSG.

11-11-2011, 04:28 PM	#1
Deacon_Man V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Weatherford Texas Posts: 452	How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker I am thinking about buying this .22 caliber 1911 pistol. I want something that does'nt cost a arm and a leg to shoot as offten as I want. Do any of you know anything about Chiappa Firearms 1911-22 Semi-Automatic Rimfire Handgun .22 Long Rifle 5" Barrel 11 Rounds Wood Grips Black Finish? -->

11-11-2011, 05:49 PM	#2
jlloyd73 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Contributor Posts: 1,932	Re: How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker I haven't shot one yet, but I know a few people that have one and they love it. __________________ --------------------------------------------------- The only thing better than good family is good friends. J and D Lloyd Get ready...it's getting "real" and really fast!

11-11-2011, 06:16 PM	#3
Brisk44 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Iowa Contributor Posts: 1,747	Re: How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker What do they run deac?

11-11-2011, 07:53 PM	#4
Chinook V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: 17 pulls, into the propwash... Contributor Posts: 423	Re: How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker Tombstone Tactical sells em right now for the unusually low price of 205 bux, for the base model. Shipped, with FFL fees included, it'd be less that 240 for the most part, if ya go thru them. Chiappa 1911-22 Ive never handled this model, but would love to hear a report from anyone that owns one... Or is planning on making the purchase. Last edited by Chinook; 11-11-2011 at 07:55 PM..

11-11-2011, 08:13 PM	#5
6x6pinz V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mesa, Az Posts: 382	Re: How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker I bought one a year ago or so. It shoots OK but is another one of the aluminum/zinc type pistols. Plastic magazines but seem to be decent enough for a 22. The weight and the feel is there. I have only had a few issues with mine FTF or FTE but not too bad considering what it is. Not too bad as far as accuracy goes but don't expect it to be one of those pass down through generations type of firearms. Fun for today is what it is. the slide is so heavy and the springs so light that if you put a loaded mag in it you can literally move the gun forward and back very quickly and load the first round. Attached Images __________________ friends don't let friends carry glocks Last edited by 6x6pinz; 11-11-2011 at 08:19 PM.. Reason: add picture

11-12-2011, 05:57 AM	#6
rcairflr Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wichita, Ks Posts: 1,318	Re: How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker I would take a close look at the Browning Buckmarks and Ruger Mark III pistols.

11-12-2011, 08:47 AM	#7
jim brady Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,073	Re: How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker Hey guys - a question for you: My older brother bought one of these, and he's having failure to eject the empty cases. He bought the pistol used, and said it was pretty dirty. He said it extracts empties just fine, but the empty cases are not ejected clear of the slide while firing. Without seeing it, I advised him to give it a good cleaning and lube. He thinks the problem may be with the ejector. Like I said, I haven't seen the pistol myself, so I can't offer much. Are failures to eject common with this pistol? Also, is the ejector a fixed-piece attached to the frame like on a 1911, or is it somehow a part of the mag assembley? Thanks in advance for any help - Jim

11-12-2011, 08:48 AM	#8
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,280	Re: How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker I don't know anything about the Chiappa Firearms, but I can see from your post that they are cheap. I have had a lot of bad luck with CHEAP guns! They shoot, but not all that well, and they don't hold up well. Why not take a look at the Ruger single six, or even the Taurus double action revolvers. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old. Last edited by carver; 11-13-2011 at 06:25 AM..

11-12-2011, 09:22 AM	#9
CHW2021 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 467	Re: How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker If my memory serves, the American Rifleman did a article on these pistols and seemed impressed. Search the NRA magazine for that piece.

11-12-2011, 09:30 AM	#10
CampingJosh TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 4,788	Re: How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker My local shops sells a TON of these .22 1911s. The guys in there will tell you that they have very, very few complaints from the GSG 1911, but the Chiappa 1911 isn't nearly as well built. Take that for what it's worth. __________________ Nothing posted on TheFirearmsForum.com constitutes legal, accounting, gunsmithing, or other professional advice. Readers are encouraged to consult with qualified professionals for real advice. Your life is lived at your own risk. Don't blame me for the dumb things you do.

11-12-2011, 10:41 AM	#12
cutter Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 630	Re: How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker I have the Sig 1911-22. Very similar and have hah no trouble at all. I really like this as a trainer! If I start flinching or anything like that, I go back and fire this and correct what I am doing wrong. Will they last a lifetime, I dought it but look at the price, not very expensive. They are also good for someone to start out on. I have the single six and ruger 22-45. They wil last a lifetime but are not as good for pratice as an actual 1911 model. All of my friends also liked it. I think they are good for what they are, trainer and cheaper to shoot. JMHO.

11-12-2011, 10:44 AM	#13
jim brady Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,073	Re: How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker Thanks for that link, Old Grump! He's a retired LEO, former Marine and knows lots about firearms and reloading. He was just stumped on the ejection issue on this pistol. I've been the unofficial family gunsmith for more than 50 years, but he lives in Central Missouri and I'm in Colorado, so it's been long distance problem solving about this pistol. FTE is normally associated (to my mind) with 1.) ammo types, 2.) broken, dirty or bent ejectors, 3.) dirty /slide/barrel/chamber or 4.) lube issues. There can be other issues, but these have often been the primary things I've found to cause this.

11-12-2011, 03:44 PM	#14
6x6pinz V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mesa, Az Posts: 382	Re: How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker the ejector is part of the magazine. The magazines are plastic so he would need to make sure the plastic part is not broken/worn The one thing about these pistols is they can not be dry fired. The firing pin will hit the top of the chamber opening leaving a burr. This will cause the round to hang up and not eject properly. A simple touch with a jewelers file will fix this. __________________ friends don't let friends carry glocks Last edited by 6x6pinz; 11-12-2011 at 04:44 PM..

11-12-2011, 05:19 PM	#15
BETH Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: naugatuck,Ct. Contributor Posts: 6,676	Re: How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker i have shot the mark 111 and loved it?

11-13-2011, 09:42 PM	#16
aandabooks V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 187	Re: How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker Can't get one in Illinois because the metal they are made from has a melt point below 800F. MC Sports had them in their ad for $239 and when I asked, that is what the salesguy told me. I bought a Colt 1911a1 in .22 a couple weeks ago and absolutely love it. Steel frame, aluminum slide and metal mags. It is more than the Chiappa though.

11-14-2011, 10:23 PM	#17
3/2 STA SS Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Tampa Bay Area, FL Posts: 1,437	Re: How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker Ruger Mark III.....Just do it. In the end you get what you pay for. __________________ MORS DE CONTACTUS-DEATH ON CONTACT

11-15-2011, 08:57 AM	#18
The Duke Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NW Louisiana Posts: 813	Re: How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker Ive looked at the Puma, but came away a little unimpressed...I think it was the balance, maybe or something...I bought the GSG 1911-22 and very well pleased...It will shoot absolutely anything I stuff in the magazine...even some 30 years old Fed Lightnings...The Sig 1911-22 is made by GSG and is identical except for the slide stamping, plus a little more expensive... __________________ Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc'-ra-cy) - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

11-17-2011, 12:02 PM	#19
Jim Hauff Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 2,980	Re: How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker Look into the CZ KADET - a .22 lr that is identical to the CZ-75. I recently bought one from a friend - it is extremely reliable and reasonably accurate (probably better than I can shoot, at this point in life.) __________________ Jim Hauff ~ H&R Collector In Memory of Bill Goforth and Jim Ritchie

11-18-2011, 06:31 PM	#20
somawas Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 19	Re: How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker I've got the Umarex USA Colt model of this plinker. It's not a target gun, so as a plinker, it's fun to shoot. Other than the barrel being fixed to the frame, it breaks down almost like a 1911/ 45ACP and the beaver tail safety and thumb safties operate like a 1911/ 45ACP. Attached Images

11-20-2011, 05:30 PM	#21
Deacon_Man V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Weatherford Texas Posts: 452	Re: How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker I took my Chiappa 1911-22 to the indoor range today. I set my target at 15 yards and the pistol held a two inch pattern with every clip I shot. I never had a jam or fte out of the 80 rounds I sent down range. I really was very empressed with the pistol. I was shooting federal .22lr high volosity bulk I bought at Walmart for $15.49 a box of 550 rounds. It sure was a lot of fun shooting all I wanted and not breaking the bank doing it. Before I went to the range I field striped the the gun and cleaned it real good and re-oiled everything except the slide grooves. I went out to my shop and got a little of grafite greese and lubed the slide grooves with it. The grease really made the slide work smooth. The manual that came with the gun said I would have failures in the first 150 rounds during the break-in, that just did not happen. John

11-20-2011, 08:06 PM	#22
todd51 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central, Ohio Contributor Posts: 2,573	Re: How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker Ain't it great when a plan works out just the way you wanted. Great shooting and a lot of fun to come. __________________ Retired Praefectus Vigilum NRA Endowment Member

11-21-2011, 05:17 PM	#23
Enzo_Guy V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Harwood, MD Posts: 160	Re: How do you feel about this .22 cal. plinker I've heard GSG is one of the best brands for .22LR 1911s, they seem to get pretty good reviews and GSG is known for their tactical .22LR carbines. The only thing I know about Chiappa is they make some ugly revolvers! Never seen anything tabout their .22 1911s, if I was to purchase one myself I'd stick to GSG. __________________ Old calibers never die, they just get less powerful.