DIY restorations before and after pics (request) - Page 2 - The Firearms Forum

raven818 · 11-15-2011, 01:15 PM

I've been thinking about buying a couple of the WW1 / WW2 guns for sale in some of my Gun Magazines for about 300 and redoing the stocks all the way. Could I expect to have them look as good as those here? The stocks are all I'm wanting to do.

I know nothing about how to work on machinery. Just the wood.

Being able to take your rough starts and make them shine is great.

goofy · 11-15-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by raven818

I've been thinking about buying a couple of the WW1 / WW2 guns for sale in some of my Gun Magazines for about 300 and redoing the stocks all the way. Could I expect to have them look as good as those here? The stocks are all I'm wanting to do.

I know nothing about how to work on machinery. Just the wood.

Being able to take your rough starts and make them shine is great.

Hi raven Alot depends on what you have to start with.And what you want to end up with.All you have to do is TAKE YOUR TIME and be ready to start over if something is not right. I would be happy to give you step by step instructions just pm me and we can talk.
GOOFY

raven818 · 11-15-2011, 02:44 PM

I'm sure you've seen the rifles I'm referring to in the magazines ( come with accessories, slings, etc. ). Do you think it's doable to work the stock into a semi-gorgeous piece of art? I can mentally see it finished? Realistic?

goofy · 11-15-2011, 03:14 PM

If time is no concern(how long it will take) Then yes.You can leave it natural or stain or both. Finish it with the right amount of coats of oil. Then Polish it to a mirror finish.You can finish a stock alot of ways but again i must stres you will need to take your time don't rush and be prepaired to redo something if it is not right or looks or feels wrong.If you don't like something stop and fix it or it will bother you forever.Nothing worse then saying "I should of" when "you could of"
Goofy

JLA · 11-15-2011, 03:55 PM

BU.. PM HelixFR.

I had him do the slide on my CZ75CWC 9mm a few months ago. took it from CZ polycoat to a sweet nickel finish. Check it out! Dudes a plating and gun bluing wizard!

goofy · 11-16-2011, 04:24 AM

Realy nice job HelixFR

And a real nice gun JLA.How was it plated?

Big ugly · 11-16-2011, 06:46 AM

The pistol is down in GA in my dads safe. I will get a hold of him to see if he will be able to take the photos for me. I know the value of the pistol is minimal so it just depends. if I have it restored I would want it to be done the same way it was done from Savage. Its a great little pistol, its in real good shape, other than the plating comming offt

JLA · 11-16-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by goofy

Realy nice job HelixFR

And a real nice gun JLA.How was it plated?

Not quite sure the method Helix uses. I know he does nickel, cobalt, chrome, and awesome belgium bluing. Im guessing its electroless, but then again you gave to use elecrodes to do chrome so he may do both. Youd have to ask him.

I also sent him a custom Mosin Nagant bolt to hard chrome for me. That too turned out perfect. And I have seen examples of his Bluing. Its exquisite, second to none comparable to guns in the fine gun room at your local bass pro shop.

JLA · 11-16-2011, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Big ugly

The pistol is down in GA in my dads safe. I will get a hold of him to see if he will be able to take the photos for me. I know the value of the pistol is minimal so it just depends. if I have it restored I would want it to be done the same way it was done from Savage. Its a great little pistol, its in real good shape, other than the plating comming offt

BU, Helix is in Arnold MO, may be worth a drive up from GA..

Jackman · 11-16-2011, 06:39 PM

Thanks all , I 've got to abandon the thread until I get my act together on pic posting ...

rhmc24 · 11-17-2011, 09:38 AM

Here's one. I bought it for its parts, found it EXC inside and decided to Re-Create it. I did all the prep and mirror polish & sent to Turnbulls who replaced the letterings and blue.

geds · 11-17-2011, 10:14 AM

Nice job!

JLA · 11-17-2011, 06:15 PM

How in the world did you get all the pitting off without losing any metal??

Jackman · 11-17-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JLA

How in the world did you get all the pitting off without losing any metal??

I second that question, how did ya do that, my 99 no doubt will have some pitting but not nearly as much as your Colt had.

H-D · 11-17-2011, 10:12 PM

probably lost a good deal of lettering he said turnbull had to re-cut the lettering

rhmc24 · 11-18-2011, 05:51 AM

It did lose metal. Pitting like on that one is about .005" maybe a little more. You lose that much surface when you clean it down to where you can polish it. Worse is when deeper metal is missing from bubba work or deep dings. I replace metal by filling in with weld. I have done several "re-creations" building pieces from parts, etc. Here is another before/after done completely in-house.

JLA · 11-18-2011, 09:03 AM

Ahh, fill welding... That takes talent brother. Ive tried and im a fair welder and I botch half the crap I attempt. Kudos to your skillz. Excellent work!

rhmc24 · 11-18-2011, 09:15 AM

I use a little MIG welder that you can get pretty good control of what you need to do. I don't think I ever used it on pitting but no reason it not to work but probably not practical. Pitting is usually over a large area and you would add a thick pad to have to work back down to the surface. It has worked well for me filling in grinding marks and deep dings on edges, repairing cracks, etc.

JLA · 11-18-2011, 09:45 AM

sweet, and you use a MIG, again, mucho kudos bro! I would have thought a TIG. TIG is the only welding i will use on firearms. Its far prettier, easier to control, and no slag.

rhmc24 · 11-19-2011, 05:27 AM

It's true TIG has its advantages but I use the MIG I have. Cosidering I'm not a welder it works out pretty good for me. I use my MIG with gas - so no slag. MIG is light years better than stick welder when that was all I had.

rhmc24 · 11-19-2011, 09:12 AM

And another before/after. I got this S&W Triple Lock in 1982 for $135 at a gun show. At the time I was practicing engraving on anything handy. The grips I had made in Africa working there in '51, did the eagle with a kind of Dremel tool. Nickle plated it with Texas Plater Supply kit.

Bobitis · 11-19-2011, 12:20 PM

CnRnut · 11-19-2011, 04:31 PM

This was an old I J that sat in a cow pasture for almost a year after putting
down a cow.

After a trip to the blasting cabinet.

Jackman · 11-23-2011, 11:11 PM

Well changed my mind not going for a resto just a little perfume on a pig should be fine

.

I ve got the stocks looking much nicer than they were, would like to get the rust off especially that big chunk on the receiver

, any ideas that won't remove the bluing too?

Jackman · 11-23-2011, 11:11 PM

11-15-2011, 01:15 PM	#26
raven818 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Jax, Fl. Contributor Posts: 4,423	Re: DIY restorations before and after pics (request) I've been thinking about buying a couple of the WW1 / WW2 guns for sale in some of my Gun Magazines for about 300 and redoing the stocks all the way. Could I expect to have them look as good as those here? The stocks are all I'm wanting to do. I know nothing about how to work on machinery. Just the wood. Being able to take your rough starts and make them shine is great. __________________ Firearms and Salt Water Fishing Retired 42 Years LEO

11-15-2011, 02:44 PM	#28
raven818 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Jax, Fl. Contributor Posts: 4,423	Re: DIY restorations before and after pics (request) I'm sure you've seen the rifles I'm referring to in the magazines ( come with accessories, slings, etc. ). Do you think it's doable to work the stock into a semi-gorgeous piece of art? I can mentally see it finished? Realistic? __________________ Firearms and Salt Water Fishing Retired 42 Years LEO

11-15-2011, 03:14 PM	#29
goofy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Contributor Posts: 2,014	Re: DIY restorations before and after pics (request) If time is no concern(how long it will take) Then yes.You can leave it natural or stain or both. Finish it with the right amount of coats of oil. Then Polish it to a mirror finish.You can finish a stock alot of ways but again i must stres you will need to take your time don't rush and be prepaired to redo something if it is not right or looks or feels wrong.If you don't like something stop and fix it or it will bother you forever.Nothing worse then saying "I should of" when "you could of" Goofy

11-15-2011, 03:55 PM	#30
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,298	Re: DIY restorations before and after pics (request) BU.. PM HelixFR. I had him do the slide on my CZ75CWC 9mm a few months ago. took it from CZ polycoat to a sweet nickel finish. Check it out! Dudes a plating and gun bluing wizard! Attached Images __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

11-16-2011, 04:24 AM	#31
goofy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Contributor Posts: 2,014	Re: DIY restorations before and after pics (request) Realy nice job HelixFR And a real nice gun JLA.How was it plated?

11-16-2011, 06:46 AM	#32
Big ugly Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Knoxville Tennessee Contributor Posts: 2,603	Re: DIY restorations before and after pics (request) The pistol is down in GA in my dads safe. I will get a hold of him to see if he will be able to take the photos for me. I know the value of the pistol is minimal so it just depends. if I have it restored I would want it to be done the same way it was done from Savage. Its a great little pistol, its in real good shape, other than the plating comming offt __________________ "You say the Devil made do it with a smile. Raisin' hell and howlin at the moon. Well I'm gonna put your @$$ back in line. I'm gonna scare the Devil out of you." BlackBerry Smoke Song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R513dA4peMg Nothing is "proof" against a truly talented fool. Swanshot

11-16-2011, 06:39 PM	#35
Jackman V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 446	Re: DIY restorations before and after pics (request) Thanks all , I 've got to abandon the thread until I get my act together on pic posting ...

11-17-2011, 09:38 AM	#36
rhmc24 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ardmore, OK Posts: 518	Re: DIY restorations before and after pics (request) Here's one. I bought it for its parts, found it EXC inside and decided to Re-Create it. I did all the prep and mirror polish & sent to Turnbulls who replaced the letterings and blue. Last edited by rhmc24; 11-17-2011 at 04:07 PM..

11-17-2011, 10:14 AM	#37
geds Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,706	Re: DIY restorations before and after pics (request) Nice job!

11-17-2011, 06:15 PM	#38
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,298	Re: DIY restorations before and after pics (request) How in the world did you get all the pitting off without losing any metal?? __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

11-17-2011, 10:12 PM	#40
H-D Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Mississippi Posts: 1,334	Re: DIY restorations before and after pics (request) probably lost a good deal of lettering he said turnbull had to re-cut the lettering __________________ And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. Revelation 19:11

11-18-2011, 05:51 AM	#41
rhmc24 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ardmore, OK Posts: 518	Re: DIY restorations before and after pics (request) It did lose metal. Pitting like on that one is about .005" maybe a little more. You lose that much surface when you clean it down to where you can polish it. Worse is when deeper metal is missing from bubba work or deep dings. I replace metal by filling in with weld. I have done several "re-creations" building pieces from parts, etc. Here is another before/after done completely in-house.

11-18-2011, 09:03 AM	#42
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,298	Re: DIY restorations before and after pics (request) Ahh, fill welding... That takes talent brother. Ive tried and im a fair welder and I botch half the crap I attempt. Kudos to your skillz. Excellent work! __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

11-18-2011, 09:15 AM	#43
rhmc24 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ardmore, OK Posts: 518	Re: DIY restorations before and after pics (request) I use a little MIG welder that you can get pretty good control of what you need to do. I don't think I ever used it on pitting but no reason it not to work but probably not practical. Pitting is usually over a large area and you would add a thick pad to have to work back down to the surface. It has worked well for me filling in grinding marks and deep dings on edges, repairing cracks, etc.

11-18-2011, 09:45 AM	#44
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,298	Re: DIY restorations before and after pics (request) sweet, and you use a MIG, again, mucho kudos bro! I would have thought a TIG. TIG is the only welding i will use on firearms. Its far prettier, easier to control, and no slag. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

11-19-2011, 05:27 AM	#45
rhmc24 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ardmore, OK Posts: 518	Re: DIY restorations before and after pics (request) It's true TIG has its advantages but I use the MIG I have. Cosidering I'm not a welder it works out pretty good for me. I use my MIG with gas - so no slag. MIG is light years better than stick welder when that was all I had.

11-19-2011, 09:12 AM	#46
rhmc24 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Ardmore, OK Posts: 518	Re: DIY restorations before and after pics (request) And another before/after. I got this S&W Triple Lock in 1982 for $135 at a gun show. At the time I was practicing engraving on anything handy. The grips I had made in Africa working there in '51, did the eagle with a kind of Dremel tool. Nickle plated it with Texas Plater Supply kit.

11-19-2011, 12:20 PM	#47
Bobitis Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,612	Re: DIY restorations before and after pics (request) __________________ ^.^ A point in every direction is the same as having no point at all

11-19-2011, 04:31 PM	#48
CnRnut Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1	Re: DIY restorations before and after pics (request) This was an old I J that sat in a cow pasture for almost a year after putting down a cow. After a trip to the blasting cabinet.

11-23-2011, 11:11 PM	#49
Jackman V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 446	Re: DIY restorations before and after pics (request) Well changed my mind not going for a resto just a little perfume on a pig should be fine . I ve got the stocks looking much nicer than they were, would like to get the rust off especially that big chunk on the receiver , any ideas that won't remove the bluing too?