Ortgies holsters? - The Firearms Forum

sniperloopas · 11-18-2011, 10:00 AM

If these guns were popular back in the day why is it so hard to find a holster?

carver · 11-18-2011, 10:05 AM

What guns are you talking about?

Alpo · 11-18-2011, 10:53 AM

Ortgies. Right there in the title to the thread.

Probably the same reason it's so hard to find a holster for Colt Model Ms (a much more popular gun). People didn't use holsters. They were pocket guns. If there were some holsters made, this was 80 years ago. They probably are just - gone.

carver · 11-18-2011, 11:01 AM

Well, I had to look it up, didn't know what it was. After a little research, I would bet that the only way to get a holster for this gun would be to just find something that sorta fits the gun, have one made for it, or do it your self.

RJay · 11-18-2011, 01:11 PM

The U.S. was flooded with these pistols in the 1930's. For various reasons ( one being the safety , the other being the brittle nature of the sear ) the guns were not overly popular with the Germans nor really popular with the Americans. The term popular is a recent term. While very well made, I wouldn't carry one chamber loaded on a dare. You also have to remember that 80 years ago there was no vast after market accessory empire. Like Alpo posted they were considered " Pocket Guns " FWIW, most holsters from that era were not the form fitted thick holsters we see today. for the most part they were nothing more than thin leather belt pouches. Even if you found a holster it wouldn't be recognized for being a Ortgies holster ( other than the very few Military type holsters used by certain German finance personal who had to carried these )

Jim K · 11-18-2011, 09:30 PM

Those guns, like the Colt pocket autos, tended to be "bureau drawer" guns rather than carry guns, which is why we find so many in good condition today. In the 1920's and 1930's, both "serious" gun carry and home defense tended to be the province of revolvers. Auto pistols were rather exotic, even in the movies, although Bogie apparently never left home without his Colt.

RJay makes a good point about the Ortgies being of dubious safety, but in those days few people, even those who owned the guns, knew very much about auto pistols or worried a lot about safety. The obsession with safety and safety devices is modern, partly lawyer-driven and partly just the result of a different attitude. People in those days considered just carrying a gun to be rather dangerous and didn't worry overmuch about various "what if" scenarios.

Jim

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carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,301	Re: Ortgies holsters? Well, I had to look it up, didn't know what it was. After a little research, I would bet that the only way to get a holster for this gun would be to just find something that sorta fits the gun, have one made for it, or do it your self. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

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RJay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,487	Re: Ortgies holsters? The U.S. was flooded with these pistols in the 1930's. For various reasons ( one being the safety , the other being the brittle nature of the sear ) the guns were not overly popular with the Germans nor really popular with the Americans. The term popular is a recent term. While very well made, I wouldn't carry one chamber loaded on a dare. You also have to remember that 80 years ago there was no vast after market accessory empire. Like Alpo posted they were considered " Pocket Guns " FWIW, most holsters from that era were not the form fitted thick holsters we see today. for the most part they were nothing more than thin leather belt pouches. Even if you found a holster it wouldn't be recognized for being a Ortgies holster ( other than the very few Military type holsters used by certain German finance personal who had to carried these ) __________________ RonJames Last edited by RJay; 11-18-2011 at 01:17 PM..

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Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: Ortgies holsters? Those guns, like the Colt pocket autos, tended to be "bureau drawer" guns rather than carry guns, which is why we find so many in good condition today. In the 1920's and 1930's, both "serious" gun carry and home defense tended to be the province of revolvers. Auto pistols were rather exotic, even in the movies, although Bogie apparently never left home without his Colt. RJay makes a good point about the Ortgies being of dubious safety, but in those days few people, even those who owned the guns, knew very much about auto pistols or worried a lot about safety. The obsession with safety and safety devices is modern, partly lawyer-driven and partly just the result of a different attitude. People in those days considered just carrying a gun to be rather dangerous and didn't worry overmuch about various "what if" scenarios. Jim