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terminator · 11-19-2011, 07:44 PM

Wife and I have had three encounters with aggressive dogs while on our nightly walks. Stun gun or pepper spray what do you guys suggest?

reynolds357 · 11-19-2011, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by terminator

Wife and I have had three encounters with aggressive dogs while on our nightly walks. Stun gun or pepper spray what do you guys suggest?

Pepper.

HunterAlpha1 · 11-19-2011, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terminator

Wife and I have had three encounters with aggressive dogs while on our nightly walks. Stun gun or pepper spray what do you guys suggest?

firearm.

gad1111 · 11-19-2011, 08:29 PM

Pepper, longer range

jack404 · 11-19-2011, 08:51 PM

firearm, +1

i've seen that pepper fog go back and gas everyone , the police dogs did not seem that effected

the cops not wearing gas gear where ( Honiara , the Solomon islands peace keeping stint )

tazer and its down .. but close is always more risky

HunterAlpha1 · 11-19-2011, 09:01 PM

plus, the firearm doesn't have to be lethal. a .410 loaded with rocksalt will do the trick. i know, i was shot with some when i was a kid, taking a shortcut across someone's lawn.

deadin · 11-19-2011, 09:11 PM

A firearm is a firearm even if loaded with rock salt. Discharging one is an area where it is against the law will still get you cited.
I've been told that just the sound of a stun gun will turn dogs.

dons2346 · 11-19-2011, 09:25 PM

Taser

hogger129 · 11-19-2011, 09:35 PM

taser

Alpo · 11-19-2011, 10:56 PM

Of those two options - baseball bat.

JUNKKING · 11-19-2011, 11:19 PM

Pepper if it has to be one of the two. Just have to watch the wind. Try and stun gun my dog and he would eat it.

carver · 11-20-2011, 07:30 AM

Think about a hiking staff! Make it, or buy it. The staff needs to be as tall as you are, that way you can't fall on it, and hurt yourself. If you are 5'10" tall, that would be the reach of the staff. Most dogs won't run under an object held out over them, so that is where things start. The staff is a great defensive weapon when in the hands of someone who knows how to use it. Works great for animals, and people alike. When I know that I will be going some place where I can't take a firearm, I always have at least a walking stick with me. They never fail to fire, the wind can't blow it back in your face. If you know what you are doing with one you can stop a threat, cripple it, or kill it!

HunterAlpha1 · 11-20-2011, 07:56 AM

another option would be an expandable baton. you can carry it in your pocket or on your belt and they are lethal when employed properly.

hunter29180 · 11-20-2011, 08:00 AM

have seen pepper spray ignored by many large dogs..especally pit bull and mixes.
watched vidios of police using stun guns..againg about 50 - 50..now tasers are diffrent..as long as the wires are intact it will stop a big dog even a small bear. the trick is to keep shocking it till it decides its had enough..sometimes 3-4 hits. and remember you have to have a solid hit with the barbs to have that ability. so my vote is any gun caliber begining with at least a 4 and having at least 2 didgits...that being said a attacking dog is the same as a perp bent on harming you..for dogs file a report with the police then if it continues shoot to kill..just my 2 cents...

cpttango30 · 11-20-2011, 09:15 AM

pepper spray doesn't affect dogs like it does humans. Dogs have a third eyelid that helps to protect the eyes from the affects of pepper spray. It might make their nose burn but, if they are pissed to begin with it is only going to make them even more pissed.

Take a firearm or a big ass machete. You never know when zombies are going to attack.

Trevor1837 · 11-20-2011, 11:26 AM

Carver your just trying to sell your products

fuzebox40 · 11-20-2011, 11:42 AM

So it's safe to assume you don't own a flame thrower?

terminator · 11-20-2011, 11:59 AM

I think I am going to get a stun baton, walking stick and pepper spray!!! If that dosen't work I'll have to take the 1911. Thanks for all the feed back.

Carne Frio · 11-20-2011, 12:51 PM

I carry the UDAP bear spray. I have used it 4 times
against large aggressive dogs and one drunk demanding
booze money. It worked fine all five times. The dogs ran
away, howling. The drunk fell down and **** himself.

http://www.udap.com/product.htm

Bobitis · 11-20-2011, 01:19 PM

A brother is soon to be retired LEO.

He was called out to a mobile home one time, and chained to the steps was a pit bull. When he walked up, the dog wanted him.

He emptied a full can of the good stuff on the dog, and it didn't back down one inch.

I remember 30 years ago when he was in training. He got a book that had on the cover a body with 20+ bullet holes in it of various calibers to read. It had to do with drugs in the body, and how to deal with junkies.

Adrenaline is goofy stuff, and it don't matter if it's in a human or a dog.

I've read that a good hornet/wasp spray is very effective. It's a much bigger can, but it's chemicals vs the homeopathic version.

Stun guns are effective (at times) when the electrodes make contact with flesh. That's a pretty iffy situation when it comes to dogs. Much like a firearm, it needs to be pointed accurately. If a dog is coming outta nowhere at 20-30 MPH, are you that confident you can hit it? You get one shot with a taser.

You may get more with a firearm, but adrenaline is goofy. It will affect you as well.
And a charging dog is MUCH faster and MUCH smaller than its human counterpart. That's why the LEOs and the military use them at times.

Choose wisely.

carver · 11-20-2011, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor1837

Carver your just trying to sell your products

I hear ya!

But I am sold on the sticks, and I don't care who you are, or where you get your stick, they always work!

HunterAlpha1 · 11-20-2011, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carver

Think about a hiking staff! Make it, or buy it. The staff needs to be as tall as you are, that way you can't fall on it, and hurt yourself. If you are 5'10" tall, that would be the reach of the staff. Most dogs won't run under an object held out over them, so that is where things start. The staff is a great defensive weapon when in the hands of someone who knows how to use it. Works great for animals, and people alike. When I know that I will be going some place where I can't take a firearm, I always have at least a walking stick with me. They never fail to fire, the wind can't blow it back in your face. If you know what you are doing with one you can stop a threat, cripple it, or kill it!

like these guys?

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=97384

Deacon_Man · 11-20-2011, 04:19 PM

One point you guys are missing, bad dogs run in a pack. One stick or stun gun will only stop one dog at a time. When my wife and I go walking I carry a nine shot .380 auto in my pocket, makes me feel much safer than fighting a dog pack with a stick.

Alpo · 11-20-2011, 04:32 PM

Once upon a time in the woods I was treed by a PACK of dogs.

Four, or maybe five, times on the street, I've had ONE dog come charging out at me.

In town they don't run in packs too much.

Maximilian II · 11-20-2011, 08:05 PM

I sprayed a big Rottie to deter it from being on my lawn. It didn't like it and rubbed its face in the grass, but soon was back to growling through my window. I lived in town at the time so firearms were out.
I ignored it and it was gone the next morning.

11-19-2011, 07:44 PM	#1
terminator V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 130	stun gun? Wife and I have had three encounters with aggressive dogs while on our nightly walks. Stun gun or pepper spray what do you guys suggest? -->

11-19-2011, 08:29 PM	#4
gad1111 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Swanton, Ohio Posts: 272	Re: stun gun? Pepper, longer range

11-19-2011, 08:51 PM	#5
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: stun gun? firearm, +1 i've seen that pepper fog go back and gas everyone , the police dogs did not seem that effected the cops not wearing gas gear where ( Honiara , the Solomon islands peace keeping stint ) tazer and its down .. but close is always more risky Last edited by jack404; 11-19-2011 at 08:52 PM..

11-19-2011, 09:01 PM	#6
HunterAlpha1 Former Guest Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Yorktown, VA Posts: 1,049	Re: stun gun? plus, the firearm doesn't have to be lethal. a .410 loaded with rocksalt will do the trick. i know, i was shot with some when i was a kid, taking a shortcut across someone's lawn.

11-19-2011, 09:11 PM	#7
deadin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 858	Re: stun gun? A firearm is a firearm even if loaded with rock salt. Discharging one is an area where it is against the law will still get you cited. I've been told that just the sound of a stun gun will turn dogs.

11-19-2011, 09:25 PM	#8
dons2346 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Move between WA and points south Contributor Posts: 1,415	Re: stun gun? Taser __________________ "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." --Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, 1785

11-19-2011, 09:35 PM	#9
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,069	Re: stun gun? taser __________________ Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can."

11-19-2011, 10:56 PM	#10
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,667	Re: stun gun? Of those two options - baseball bat. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

11-19-2011, 11:19 PM	#11
JUNKKING Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Just East of Pittsburgh PA Contributor Posts: 1,784	Re: stun gun? Pepper if it has to be one of the two. Just have to watch the wind. Try and stun gun my dog and he would eat it. __________________ Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and again!

11-20-2011, 07:30 AM	#12
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,300	Re: stun gun? Think about a hiking staff! Make it, or buy it. The staff needs to be as tall as you are, that way you can't fall on it, and hurt yourself. If you are 5'10" tall, that would be the reach of the staff. Most dogs won't run under an object held out over them, so that is where things start. The staff is a great defensive weapon when in the hands of someone who knows how to use it. Works great for animals, and people alike. When I know that I will be going some place where I can't take a firearm, I always have at least a walking stick with me. They never fail to fire, the wind can't blow it back in your face. If you know what you are doing with one you can stop a threat, cripple it, or kill it! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

11-20-2011, 07:56 AM	#13
HunterAlpha1 Former Guest Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Yorktown, VA Posts: 1,049	Re: stun gun? another option would be an expandable baton. you can carry it in your pocket or on your belt and they are lethal when employed properly.

11-20-2011, 08:00 AM	#14
hunter29180 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: in a motorhome where ever we park! Contributor Posts: 1,627	Re: stun gun? have seen pepper spray ignored by many large dogs..especally pit bull and mixes. watched vidios of police using stun guns..againg about 50 - 50..now tasers are diffrent..as long as the wires are intact it will stop a big dog even a small bear. the trick is to keep shocking it till it decides its had enough..sometimes 3-4 hits. and remember you have to have a solid hit with the barbs to have that ability. so my vote is any gun caliber begining with at least a 4 and having at least 2 didgits...that being said a attacking dog is the same as a perp bent on harming you..for dogs file a report with the police then if it continues shoot to kill..just my 2 cents...

11-20-2011, 09:15 AM	#15
cpttango30 Former Guest Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Stafford, VA Contributor Posts: 3,071	Re: stun gun? pepper spray doesn't affect dogs like it does humans. Dogs have a third eyelid that helps to protect the eyes from the affects of pepper spray. It might make their nose burn but, if they are pissed to begin with it is only going to make them even more pissed. Take a firearm or a big ass machete. You never know when zombies are going to attack.

11-20-2011, 11:26 AM	#16
Trevor1837 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 262	Re: stun gun? Carver your just trying to sell your products

11-20-2011, 11:42 AM	#17
fuzebox40 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Apple Valley, Ca. Contributor Posts: 1,485	Re: stun gun? So it's safe to assume you don't own a flame thrower?

11-20-2011, 11:59 AM	#18
terminator V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 130	Re: stun gun? I think I am going to get a stun baton, walking stick and pepper spray!!! If that dosen't work I'll have to take the 1911. Thanks for all the feed back.

11-20-2011, 12:51 PM	#19
Carne Frio Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Near Fairbanks Posts: 699	Re: stun gun? I carry the UDAP bear spray. I have used it 4 times against large aggressive dogs and one drunk demanding booze money. It worked fine all five times. The dogs ran away, howling. The drunk fell down and **** himself. http://www.udap.com/product.htm

11-20-2011, 01:19 PM	#20
Bobitis Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,612	Re: stun gun? A brother is soon to be retired LEO. He was called out to a mobile home one time, and chained to the steps was a pit bull. When he walked up, the dog wanted him. He emptied a full can of the good stuff on the dog, and it didn't back down one inch. I remember 30 years ago when he was in training. He got a book that had on the cover a body with 20+ bullet holes in it of various calibers to read. It had to do with drugs in the body, and how to deal with junkies. Adrenaline is goofy stuff, and it don't matter if it's in a human or a dog. I've read that a good hornet/wasp spray is very effective. It's a much bigger can, but it's chemicals vs the homeopathic version. Stun guns are effective (at times) when the electrodes make contact with flesh. That's a pretty iffy situation when it comes to dogs. Much like a firearm, it needs to be pointed accurately. If a dog is coming outta nowhere at 20-30 MPH, are you that confident you can hit it? You get one shot with a taser. You may get more with a firearm, but adrenaline is goofy. It will affect you as well. And a charging dog is MUCH faster and MUCH smaller than its human counterpart. That's why the LEOs and the military use them at times. Choose wisely. __________________ ^.^ A point in every direction is the same as having no point at all

11-20-2011, 04:19 PM	#23
Deacon_Man V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Weatherford Texas Posts: 452	Re: stun gun? One point you guys are missing, bad dogs run in a pack. One stick or stun gun will only stop one dog at a time. When my wife and I go walking I carry a nine shot .380 auto in my pocket, makes me feel much safer than fighting a dog pack with a stick.

11-20-2011, 04:32 PM	#24
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,667	Re: stun gun? Once upon a time in the woods I was treed by a PACK of dogs. Four, or maybe five, times on the street, I've had ONE dog come charging out at me. In town they don't run in packs too much. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

11-20-2011, 08:05 PM	#25
Maximilian II Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Northwest GA Posts: 1,383	Re: stun gun? I sprayed a big Rottie to deter it from being on my lawn. It didn't like it and rubbed its face in the grass, but soon was back to growling through my window. I lived in town at the time so firearms were out. I ignored it and it was gone the next morning. __________________ Karma is just justice, without the satisfaction. And I don't believe in justice. -Joe Sarno, bagman.