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09-25-2003, 08:41 AM

Texas University Shuts Down Bake Sale

By Associated Press

September 24, 2003, 11:17 PM EDT

DALLAS -- Southern Methodist University shut down a bake sale Wednesday in which cookies were offered for sale at different prices, depending on the buyer's race or gender.

The sale was organized by the Young Conservatives of Texas, who said it was intended as a protest of affirmative action.

A sign said white males had to pay $1 for a cookie. The price was 75 cents for white women, 50 cents for Hispanics and 25 cents for blacks.

Members of the conservative group said they meant no offense and were only trying to protest the use of race or gender as a factor in college admissions.

Similar sales have been held by College Republican chapters at colleges in at least five other states since February.

A black student filed a complaint with SMU, saying the sale was offensive. SMU officials said they halted the event after 45 minutes because it created a potentially unsafe situation.

"This was not an issue about free speech," Tim Moore, director of the SMU student center, said in a story for Thursday's edition of The Dallas Morning News. "It was really an issue where we had a hostile environment being created."

The sale drew a crowd outside the student center and several students engaged in a shouting match, Moore said.

David C. Rushing, 23, a law student and chairman of Young Conservatives of Texas at SMU and for the state, said the event didn't get out of hand. At most, a dozen students gathered around the table of cookies and Rice Krispies treats, he said.

"We copied what's been done at multiple campuses around the country to illustrate our opinion of affirmative action and how we think it's unfair," he said.

Matt Houston, a 19-year-old sophomore, called the group's price list offensive.

"My reaction was disgust because of the ignorance of some SMU students," said Houston, who is black. "They were arguing that affirmative action was solely based on race. It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization."

The group sold three cookies during its protest, raising $1.50.

In June, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled universities could use race as a factor in admissions under limited conditions. In Texas, universities had been banned from using race as a factor under a 1996 decision by a lower court.
Copyright © 2003, The Associated Press

1952Sniper · 09-25-2003, 08:47 AM

LOL, that makes the point pretty well, I'd say!

Too bad it got shut down. That just goes to show you that the people who support affirmitive action know it's a stupid system and they don't want the rest of us thinking about it.

It constantly amazes me how conservatives can be easily shut down anytime they try to make a point. But when a liberal does the same thing, they are protected. I can bet you that if those people selling those cookies were black and were trying to make a point like that, the university would have gone out of its way to make sure that no one harrassed them.

09-28-2003, 08:25 AM

you are right on that sniper

I also think the NAACP is a racist organization not that much different in ideology from the KKK.

Robert · 09-28-2003, 01:12 PM

The cost of the cookie was based on the average percentage that the different races pay for education?

09-25-2003, 08:41 AM	#1
warpig Adnanced Senior Member Posts: n/a	Affermitive Action Texas University Shuts Down Bake Sale By Associated Press September 24, 2003, 11:17 PM EDT DALLAS -- Southern Methodist University shut down a bake sale Wednesday in which cookies were offered for sale at different prices, depending on the buyer's race or gender. The sale was organized by the Young Conservatives of Texas, who said it was intended as a protest of affirmative action. A sign said white males had to pay $1 for a cookie. The price was 75 cents for white women, 50 cents for Hispanics and 25 cents for blacks. Members of the conservative group said they meant no offense and were only trying to protest the use of race or gender as a factor in college admissions. Similar sales have been held by College Republican chapters at colleges in at least five other states since February. A black student filed a complaint with SMU, saying the sale was offensive. SMU officials said they halted the event after 45 minutes because it created a potentially unsafe situation. "This was not an issue about free speech," Tim Moore, director of the SMU student center, said in a story for Thursday's edition of The Dallas Morning News. "It was really an issue where we had a hostile environment being created." The sale drew a crowd outside the student center and several students engaged in a shouting match, Moore said. David C. Rushing, 23, a law student and chairman of Young Conservatives of Texas at SMU and for the state, said the event didn't get out of hand. At most, a dozen students gathered around the table of cookies and Rice Krispies treats, he said. "We copied what's been done at multiple campuses around the country to illustrate our opinion of affirmative action and how we think it's unfair," he said. Matt Houston, a 19-year-old sophomore, called the group's price list offensive. "My reaction was disgust because of the ignorance of some SMU students," said Houston, who is black. "They were arguing that affirmative action was solely based on race. It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization." The group sold three cookies during its protest, raising $1.50. In June, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled universities could use race as a factor in admissions under limited conditions. In Texas, universities had been banned from using race as a factor under a 1996 decision by a lower court. Copyright © 2003, The Associated Press -->

09-28-2003, 01:12 PM	#4
Robert Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hood River, Oregon (The Gorge) Posts: 13	Was this sale based on cost % comparison The cost of the cookie was based on the average percentage that the different races pay for education? __________________ Make it Count

09-25-2003, 08:47 AM	#2
1952Sniper Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 5,138	LOL, that makes the point pretty well, I'd say! Too bad it got shut down. That just goes to show you that the people who support affirmitive action know it's a stupid system and they don't want the rest of us thinking about it. It constantly amazes me how conservatives can be easily shut down anytime they try to make a point. But when a liberal does the same thing, they are protected. I can bet you that if those people selling those cookies were black and were trying to make a point like that, the university would have gone out of its way to make sure that no one harrassed them.

09-28-2003, 08:25 AM	#3
warpig Adnanced Senior Member Posts: n/a	you are right on that sniper I also think the NAACP is a racist organization not that much different in ideology from the KKK.