Be Ready For " Them " And Other Disasters. - The Firearms Forum

raven818 · 11-26-2011, 08:37 PM

I receive email from The National Terror Alert Response Center. While checking out this survival plan regarding being ready at home, Subscribe to their newsletter. You'll have content that you won't see on the news, and NO spam.

http://tinyurl.com/5joco4

HunterAlpha1 · 11-26-2011, 10:32 PM

"Emergency Supplies:

Keep enough supplies in your home to meet your needs for at least three
days. Assemble a Disaster Supplies Kit with items you may need in an evacuation.
Store these supplies in sturdy, easy-to-carry containers such as back-packs,
duffle bags, or covered trash containers. Include:

A three-day supply
of water (one gallon per person per day) and food that won’t spoil..."

what kind of foods, other than frozen items, spoil in three days?

and how often do disasters that are big enough to shut down walmart last less than a week?

the government issued "preparedness" and "survival" plans are there simply to make people feel safer, without actually making them self reliant. they are designed to keep people inside their homes, living on their miniscule "stockpiles"(and i use the word stockpile in the broadest sense of the term) just long enough for government forces to secure the local resources and set up command infrastructure.

everyone who doesn't bother stockpiling anything at all are considered model citizens; those who follow the government guidelines for preparing are people to be watched; and anyone who stockpiles anything more, including, God forbid, firearms, are potential domestic terrorists.

jack404 · 11-26-2011, 10:35 PM

personally i dont think anyone has a perfect get away kit , i been stashing stuff ALL over since the late 70's , theres a Fortune out there! all stashed away , and now in the 2010's i'm STILL stashing stuff away and still worrying ..

and yeah that and speaking openly about such things seems to make you a enemy of the state

Zhurh · 11-26-2011, 11:35 PM

When I lived back east in Pennsylvania, I had a super cool farmer neighbor, milked about 70 cows and cut timber in the winter. He built an underground fall out shelter, no joke; covered it with dirt and all. Only use it ever saw was during deer season as we always had deer hanging in there, nice and cool.

This old farmer was forever getting in trouble with the jealous husbands, the law, game wardens, you know anybody who was going to tell him this or that. I use to always tell him he had more local enemies to worry about than the Russkies.

A few times he goated me into lying to the state cops for him and I always told him never again but I always did the nx time. No joke, this guy was forever getting caught in bed with other man's wives around where we lived. I think the reason why I'd back him up was once he tried pulling some junk on me over rifles I had that come up missing. I knew his game and called him up told him I'd be up to get my guns and of course he said we'd just have ourselves a little war. When I went into the barn, Connie & Ray were milking. Pretty quick I put the AR to his head and Connie got my guns, old farmer neighbor never even flinched, ha ha, but I swear you could hear a pin drop every cow in that barn was checking me out close. He apologized after that and we became quite good friends for many years and still keep in touch ever after us living all the way up here in Alaska for 20 years. To this day, I believe Old Ray is the only guy I could call up and say, Bring your guns, it's time to die and he'd be there. You won't find many true friends around when it really counts. Honest to God, true story.

Have at least one relative or close friend you and yours can really count on if the crap ever hits the fan. I think thats as important as all the supplies one can store. Sorry to go on too.

Rhuga · 11-26-2011, 11:38 PM

If I was able to take all of the things my wife would want to have I would need an expando-van a block long. Example: Just to go fishing out at Lake Mead here in Las Vegas for the weekend. It takes 3 hours to load the pontoon boat and 3 hours to unload it not counting the unloading and loading at the lake. She still wonders why I quit going out there with her.

In a real disaster remember this if you have something that someone wants they will try to take it away from you. It just might be the local government too!

The sheep and do-gooders wil be easy pickins for the gangs that will spring up. It will be hard to find someone to trust. The roads would be clogged with cars and nobody movin'. I guess that I would just stay home and hope for the best. Now that I think of it the way most houses are built they wouldn't be easy to defend and someone armed with a few grenades and a machine gun would take it apart very easily. Maybe Zhurch's friend had the right idea to have a bunker is the way to go. Either way we'd be up the creek.

If the disaster was more that a couple of weeks and if you tried to cook something to eat. The smell from the cooking fires would make you very popular.

Its already came out that if Obummer gets re-elected there will be a great push to disarm the people. Should the people be disarmed, they will be easier to manage and no one will be fighting over things should a disaster happen. RIGHT....

cow0man · 11-27-2011, 06:11 AM

This not a link to a Gov organization. I am very skeptic of places that try to be deceptive in their marketing. You have to look for the phrase that tells you they are not a Gov organization. With that being said, I have no expectations that the Gov can take care of me or my family in any event.

The site does have some info that is a good beginning point, but I would not subscribe to them.

raven818 · 11-27-2011, 06:26 PM

I've been getting their email newsletter for a long time. They don't profess to being connected to the govnmt. Their newsletters contain information I don't hear / read anywhere else. That's why I enjoy it.

Juker · 11-28-2011, 08:56 AM

Some close relatives were visiting us two months ago and after some extensive, serious conversations, I decided to show them our "preparations". They were floored, and impressed. As the conversation turned to "Where do you get this and that," they offered me a wad of cash to prepare them. So I did.

At one particular store where assorted SHTF sundries and necessities could be had, one lingering sales clerk got a little too interested in what I was doing. "What's that list?" "What's all this for?" "What are you doing?" After reasoning that stabbing her in the head was not a viable option, I said, "My aunt lives in Joplin and got wiped out by the tornado, so I'm making disaster preparedness kits for my family. Tornadoes are really scary."

coachwill · 11-28-2011, 10:45 AM

Each member of my family has a Pelican 1650 loaded and ready to move within minutes of the call to do so. These cases contain the essentials other than water. Water can be added easily since it is stored in the basement in the water cans you can get a surplus sales. We have one Pelican that is dedicated to any and all medications, necessary female supplies and a full suite field medical kit.

One thing that I have found in the last few days is I am now working on getting a buddy who has been a combat medic in the Special Forces to give a class on short term treatment of battlefield type injuries. My brother in law has been doing this up in Indianapolis and has 35-50 people in every class they teach and they do them about 6 times a year.

11-26-2011, 08:37 PM	#1
raven818 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Jax, Fl. Contributor Posts: 4,423	Be Ready For " Them " And Other Disasters. I receive email from The National Terror Alert Response Center. While checking out this survival plan regarding being ready at home, Subscribe to their newsletter. You'll have content that you won't see on the news, and NO spam. http://tinyurl.com/5joco4 __________________ Firearms and Salt Water Fishing Retired 42 Years LEO -->

11-26-2011, 10:32 PM	#2
HunterAlpha1 Former Guest Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Yorktown, VA Posts: 1,049	Re: Be Ready For " Them " And Other Disasters. "Emergency Supplies: Keep enough supplies in your home to meet your needs for at least three days. Assemble a Disaster Supplies Kit with items you may need in an evacuation. Store these supplies in sturdy, easy-to-carry containers such as back-packs, duffle bags, or covered trash containers. Include: A three-day supply of water (one gallon per person per day) and food that won’t spoil..." what kind of foods, other than frozen items, spoil in three days? and how often do disasters that are big enough to shut down walmart last less than a week? the government issued "preparedness" and "survival" plans are there simply to make people feel safer, without actually making them self reliant. they are designed to keep people inside their homes, living on their miniscule "stockpiles"(and i use the word stockpile in the broadest sense of the term) just long enough for government forces to secure the local resources and set up command infrastructure. everyone who doesn't bother stockpiling anything at all are considered model citizens; those who follow the government guidelines for preparing are people to be watched; and anyone who stockpiles anything more, including, God forbid, firearms, are potential domestic terrorists.

11-26-2011, 10:35 PM	#3
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Be Ready For " Them " And Other Disasters. personally i dont think anyone has a perfect get away kit , i been stashing stuff ALL over since the late 70's , theres a Fortune out there! all stashed away , and now in the 2010's i'm STILL stashing stuff away and still worrying .. and yeah that and speaking openly about such things seems to make you a enemy of the state

11-26-2011, 11:35 PM	#4
Zhurh Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Upper Yukon, Alaska Posts: 1,820	Re: Be Ready For " Them " And Other Disasters. When I lived back east in Pennsylvania, I had a super cool farmer neighbor, milked about 70 cows and cut timber in the winter. He built an underground fall out shelter, no joke; covered it with dirt and all. Only use it ever saw was during deer season as we always had deer hanging in there, nice and cool. This old farmer was forever getting in trouble with the jealous husbands, the law, game wardens, you know anybody who was going to tell him this or that. I use to always tell him he had more local enemies to worry about than the Russkies. A few times he goated me into lying to the state cops for him and I always told him never again but I always did the nx time. No joke, this guy was forever getting caught in bed with other man's wives around where we lived. I think the reason why I'd back him up was once he tried pulling some junk on me over rifles I had that come up missing. I knew his game and called him up told him I'd be up to get my guns and of course he said we'd just have ourselves a little war. When I went into the barn, Connie & Ray were milking. Pretty quick I put the AR to his head and Connie got my guns, old farmer neighbor never even flinched, ha ha, but I swear you could hear a pin drop every cow in that barn was checking me out close. He apologized after that and we became quite good friends for many years and still keep in touch ever after us living all the way up here in Alaska for 20 years. To this day, I believe Old Ray is the only guy I could call up and say, Bring your guns, it's time to die and he'd be there. You won't find many true friends around when it really counts. Honest to God, true story. Have at least one relative or close friend you and yours can really count on if the crap ever hits the fan. I think thats as important as all the supplies one can store. Sorry to go on too.

11-26-2011, 11:38 PM	#5
Rhuga Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Henderson, Nevada Posts: 645	Re: Be Ready For " Them " And Other Disasters. If I was able to take all of the things my wife would want to have I would need an expando-van a block long. Example: Just to go fishing out at Lake Mead here in Las Vegas for the weekend. It takes 3 hours to load the pontoon boat and 3 hours to unload it not counting the unloading and loading at the lake. She still wonders why I quit going out there with her. In a real disaster remember this if you have something that someone wants they will try to take it away from you. It just might be the local government too! The sheep and do-gooders wil be easy pickins for the gangs that will spring up. It will be hard to find someone to trust. The roads would be clogged with cars and nobody movin'. I guess that I would just stay home and hope for the best. Now that I think of it the way most houses are built they wouldn't be easy to defend and someone armed with a few grenades and a machine gun would take it apart very easily. Maybe Zhurch's friend had the right idea to have a bunker is the way to go. Either way we'd be up the creek. If the disaster was more that a couple of weeks and if you tried to cook something to eat. The smell from the cooking fires would make you very popular. Its already came out that if Obummer gets re-elected there will be a great push to disarm the people. Should the people be disarmed, they will be easier to manage and no one will be fighting over things should a disaster happen. RIGHT.... Last edited by Rhuga; 11-27-2011 at 01:17 AM..

11-27-2011, 06:11 AM	#6
cow0man Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 14	Re: Be Ready For " Them " And Other Disasters. This not a link to a Gov organization. I am very skeptic of places that try to be deceptive in their marketing. You have to look for the phrase that tells you they are not a Gov organization. With that being said, I have no expectations that the Gov can take care of me or my family in any event. The site does have some info that is a good beginning point, but I would not subscribe to them.

11-27-2011, 06:26 PM	#7
raven818 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Jax, Fl. Contributor Posts: 4,423	Re: Be Ready For " Them " And Other Disasters. I've been getting their email newsletter for a long time. They don't profess to being connected to the govnmt. Their newsletters contain information I don't hear / read anywhere else. That's why I enjoy it. __________________ Firearms and Salt Water Fishing Retired 42 Years LEO

11-28-2011, 08:56 AM	#8
Juker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Land of Lincoln Contributor Posts: 2,872	Re: Be Ready For " Them " And Other Disasters. Some close relatives were visiting us two months ago and after some extensive, serious conversations, I decided to show them our "preparations". They were floored, and impressed. As the conversation turned to "Where do you get this and that," they offered me a wad of cash to prepare them. So I did. At one particular store where assorted SHTF sundries and necessities could be had, one lingering sales clerk got a little too interested in what I was doing. "What's that list?" "What's all this for?" "What are you doing?" After reasoning that stabbing her in the head was not a viable option, I said, "My aunt lives in Joplin and got wiped out by the tornado, so I'm making disaster preparedness kits for my family. Tornadoes are really scary." __________________ SHOOT FIRST. SHOOT SECOND. MOST IMPORTANTLY, BE THE MAN WHO'S SHOOTING LAST.

11-28-2011, 10:45 AM	#9
coachwill Forum Sponsor Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Vestavia, AL Posts: 122	Re: Be Ready For " Them " And Other Disasters. Each member of my family has a Pelican 1650 loaded and ready to move within minutes of the call to do so. These cases contain the essentials other than water. Water can be added easily since it is stored in the basement in the water cans you can get a surplus sales. We have one Pelican that is dedicated to any and all medications, necessary female supplies and a full suite field medical kit. One thing that I have found in the last few days is I am now working on getting a buddy who has been a combat medic in the Special Forces to give a class on short term treatment of battlefield type injuries. My brother in law has been doing this up in Indianapolis and has 35-50 people in every class they teach and they do them about 6 times a year.