50 Caliber BMG vs 270 - The Firearms Forum

gun runner · 12-20-2011, 03:06 PM

Id like to know how much difference in recoil and loudness that the 50bmg has over a .270? Id appreciate it, Im just curious. Id sure like to buy a Barret 50 but I dont know if Id be able to afford the high priced ammo for it

Thanks, John

JLA · 12-20-2011, 03:11 PM

The barrett with the waffle iron muzzle brake on it feels like a heavy .243. but the blast is nothing like youve ever experienced. The big fitty is in its own wheel house in that regard. Its the most spectacular thing Ive ever experienced. And yes the ammo is very pricey, even handloading will run you 3 bucks a round. Buying milsurp will run you about 5 bucks a round.

joncutt87 · 12-20-2011, 03:13 PM

With a brake on a 50, you will want double being protection

LDBennett · 12-21-2011, 06:46 AM

We have a 50DTC (50BMG with the neck pushed back a few thousandths to be CA legal) that we have been loading to the bottom of the 50BMG reloading specs. It is a bolt action conversion unit on a AR lower. The recoil is like nothing you have ever felt. It is a BIG !! push and not sharp at all. In a seated position with the gun rested on the bench it will push your shoulder back a good foot. Do make sure you give the scope bell plenty of distance or the gun will poke you in the eye during recoil. The muzzle break will clear the shooting table of anything on it! The concussion can be felt for many! feet from the gun. If the soil in the area is at all dry it will raise a small dust cloud.

Then there is the noise. You have to double up the hearing protection on the gun side of your head and make sure the stock does not push your hearing muffs off you head (made that mistake a couple of times and ended up with the ears ringing).

These guns are fun because everything about them is massive. We are still fire forming brass (from 50BMG to 50 DTC) but shooting beyond 1000 yds and hitting targets of opportunity. We set some bus brake drums our at over 200 yards and hit them no problem. The steel cored bullets (about all you can get for a reasonable price in component form) go through the thick wall of the huge break drum, hit the other side and spin around inside. We recovered one and it is awesome looking.

Make no mistake. The 50BMG is NOT for the faint of heart. I shoot some pretty hard recoiling guns and none compare to the 50DTC (50BMG)!

LDBennett

gun-nut · 12-21-2011, 08:50 AM

O You so got to post a pick of the bullet!!!

reynolds357 · 12-21-2011, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by gun runner

Id like to know how much difference in recoil and loudness that the 50bmg has over a .270? Id appreciate it, Im just curious. Id sure like to buy a Barret 50 but I dont know if Id be able to afford the high priced ammo for it

Thanks, John

Comparing a Barrett .50 against a standard weight .270, it would be my opinion that the felt recoil of the .270 would be slightly more. As far as volume, who cares? You shoot with hearing protection. To answer your question, if you shoot a .50 BMG without hearing protection, you are going to suffer noticable hearing damage very quickly. I actually shoot the thing with my lips open. To me the .50 going off has more volume and Concussion than the Def Tecs we use on our entry team and they will daze you a bit if they go off while you have your mouth closed.

reynolds357 · 12-21-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by joncutt87

With a brake on a 50, you will want double being protection

Yep, and without a brake on a .50 you will need an ambulance.

hardluk1 · 12-21-2011, 09:58 AM

With a well set up barrett a skilled 12 year old can shot one so recoil is not and issue. A lite weight 270 may have a sharper kick but the 50 has way more push. If you can justify buying a barrett you can aford the ammo.

reynolds357 · 12-21-2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by hardluk1

If you can justify buying a barrett you can aford the ammo.

Agreed. Kind of like I guy I work for owns a 120,000 sports car and just raises tee total hell because he has to put 93 octane in it.

Grizz · 12-21-2011, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by reynolds357

Agreed. Kind of like I guy I work for owns a 120,000 sports car and just raises tee total hell because he has to put 93 octane in it.

I think we all know a person or 2 like that!

joncutt87 · 12-21-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Grizz

I think we all know a person or 2 like that!

Yea, she is sitting right next to me!

3/2 STA SS · 12-23-2011, 11:13 PM

I used to have an Iver Johnson Single shot .50. Recoil was no worse than a 3 " 12 gauge.My 2 Cents. Those who complain about recoil have never fired one.

hardluk1 · 12-25-2011, 01:01 PM

When you see a 12 year old girl at a match shooting a 50cal you know the recoil can be controlled. She probably can't move it far but can darn sure shoot small 1000 yard groups.

This tread is like some guy on another tread bitch'n about the cost of ammo for the nice high dollar 300 win mag hunting rifle he bought and wanting to know where to buy cheap ammo. Hunting rifle ammo cost any where from a 1.25 to 3 bucks a shot . Stupid owners.

12-20-2011, 03:06 PM	#1
gun runner Former Guest Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: South Texas Contributor Posts: 1,871	50 Caliber BMG vs 270 Id like to know how much difference in recoil and loudness that the 50bmg has over a .270? Id appreciate it, Im just curious. Id sure like to buy a Barret 50 but I dont know if Id be able to afford the high priced ammo for it Thanks, John -->

12-20-2011, 03:11 PM	#2
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,308	Re: 50 Caliber BMG vs 270 The barrett with the waffle iron muzzle brake on it feels like a heavy .243. but the blast is nothing like youve ever experienced. The big fitty is in its own wheel house in that regard. Its the most spectacular thing Ive ever experienced. And yes the ammo is very pricey, even handloading will run you 3 bucks a round. Buying milsurp will run you about 5 bucks a round. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

12-20-2011, 03:13 PM	#3
joncutt87 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Kannapolis, NC Contributor Posts: 1,419	Re: 50 Caliber BMG vs 270 With a brake on a 50, you will want double being protection __________________ Four words to live by: aequitas, veritas, decus, sacrificium

12-21-2011, 06:46 AM	#4
LDBennett Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hesperia, CA Posts: 5,711	Re: 50 Caliber BMG vs 270 We have a 50DTC (50BMG with the neck pushed back a few thousandths to be CA legal) that we have been loading to the bottom of the 50BMG reloading specs. It is a bolt action conversion unit on a AR lower. The recoil is like nothing you have ever felt. It is a BIG !! push and not sharp at all. In a seated position with the gun rested on the bench it will push your shoulder back a good foot. Do make sure you give the scope bell plenty of distance or the gun will poke you in the eye during recoil. The muzzle break will clear the shooting table of anything on it! The concussion can be felt for many! feet from the gun. If the soil in the area is at all dry it will raise a small dust cloud. Then there is the noise. You have to double up the hearing protection on the gun side of your head and make sure the stock does not push your hearing muffs off you head (made that mistake a couple of times and ended up with the ears ringing). These guns are fun because everything about them is massive. We are still fire forming brass (from 50BMG to 50 DTC) but shooting beyond 1000 yds and hitting targets of opportunity. We set some bus brake drums our at over 200 yards and hit them no problem. The steel cored bullets (about all you can get for a reasonable price in component form) go through the thick wall of the huge break drum, hit the other side and spin around inside. We recovered one and it is awesome looking. Make no mistake. The 50BMG is NOT for the faint of heart. I shoot some pretty hard recoiling guns and none compare to the 50DTC (50BMG)! LDBennett

12-21-2011, 08:50 AM	#5
gun-nut Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: ohio Contributor Posts: 931	Re: 50 Caliber BMG vs 270 O You so got to post a pick of the bullet!!! __________________ Don't retreat just reload.

12-21-2011, 09:58 AM	#8
hardluk1 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: nc mountains Posts: 293	Re: 50 Caliber BMG vs 270 With a well set up barrett a skilled 12 year old can shot one so recoil is not and issue. A lite weight 270 may have a sharper kick but the 50 has way more push. If you can justify buying a barrett you can aford the ammo.

12-23-2011, 11:13 PM	#12
3/2 STA SS Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Tampa Bay Area, FL Posts: 1,437	Re: 50 Caliber BMG vs 270 I used to have an Iver Johnson Single shot .50. Recoil was no worse than a 3 " 12 gauge.My 2 Cents. Those who complain about recoil have never fired one. __________________ MORS DE CONTACTUS-DEATH ON CONTACT

12-25-2011, 01:01 PM	#13
hardluk1 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: nc mountains Posts: 293	Re: 50 Caliber BMG vs 270 When you see a 12 year old girl at a match shooting a 50cal you know the recoil can be controlled. She probably can't move it far but can darn sure shoot small 1000 yard groups. This tread is like some guy on another tread bitch'n about the cost of ammo for the nice high dollar 300 win mag hunting rifle he bought and wanting to know where to buy cheap ammo. Hunting rifle ammo cost any where from a 1.25 to 3 bucks a shot . Stupid owners.