18 year old Wins right to vote without SS #.....

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  1. Shizamus

    Shizamus New Member

    Jun 27, 2001
    18-year-old rebels against being numbered
    Wins right to vote without Social Security registration

    By David M. Bresnahan

    LAS VEGAS, NV -- Even though government agencies tried their best to
    stop him, an 18-year-old will vote for the first time in the Nov. 3

    Last July, Joshua Hansen, 18, went to register to vote. A few days
    later he received a letter in the mail from Kathryn Ferguson,
    registrar of voters of Clark County, Nevada, rejecting his

    Hansen had refused to supply a Social Security number on his
    application and Ferguson rejected him as a voter.

    Hansen says he does not have a Social Security number, driver's
    license, or government issued ID card. He says that he never will. He
    also refuses to pay income tax.

    He defends his stands on these issues based on his study of the U.S.
    Constitution and his religious beliefs. He says he is willing to pay
    any price and will not give in to government pressure.

    Hansen takes his right to vote seriously. So seriously that he took
    Ferguson to court to prove his point. With the help of his uncle,
    attorney Joel F. Hansen, he got the court to order Ferguson to permit
    him to vote.

    He belongs to the First Christian Fellowship of Eternal Sovereignty,
    which he says is a political religion based on Christianity and the
    Constitution which people of all denominations may join.

    "It's a fellowship of anybody who's Christian who really exercises
    their Christian beliefs within politics," explained Hansen in a phone
    interview with WorldNetDaily.

    "The Social Security number was much like the mark of the beast
    talked about in the "Book of Revelations." One of the main reasons is
    that it, I mean you can't buy or sell without it, it's hard to do a
    lot of business without it. Have you ever tried to get a job without
    one, or voting or anything? A lot of the stuff talked about in the
    prophecy had come to life and I said, 'I don't want one of those.'

    "Everything around Social Security is a lie. I don't want any of the
    benefits from it and I don't want to pay for it. The system's going
    bankrupt. Anything I pay for I'll never see anyway. It's blatantly
    unlawful and unconstitutional," explained Hansen.

    Living without a Social Security number is a challenge, but not a
    major problem for Hansen. He has no bank account, works only for
    family members who will pay him "under the table," refuses to get a
    driver's license, and won't pay taxes. Recently he started his own
    Internet consulting business.

    He just finished high school this year and says he has very few
    friends who believe as he does. He belongs to the Church of Jesus
    Christ of Latter-day Saints.

    "Because of my political beliefs," says Hansen, "I have a lot of
    trouble getting along at church with a lot of my fellow members." The
    members of his church believe in "The Articles of Faith," a portion
    of it reads "We believe in . . . obeying, honoring, and sustaining
    the law."

    "They told me that the law said I had to have a number," explains
    Hansen. "I said, 'This is kind of stupid because all these numbers
    are obtained through the identification I already have.' When you get
    a driver's license or an ID card here, basically you show them your
    birth certificate, and to prove residency you write down on a little
    paper what your address is and sign something that says you're not
    lying, which is all you do on a voter registration thing."

    Ferguson didn't like Hansen's logic. She rejected his application to
    vote. Hansen contacted many elected officials for help. Some
    responded and some didn't, but none were of much help so he decided
    to take it to court.

    "The Constitution of Nevada establishes who can vote," explained
    Hansen. "If you're an idiot, you're insane, and if you don't have
    residency you can't vote. That's it."

    Hansen filed a Writ of Mandamus in the Clark County District Court.
    The purpose was to have the court order Ferguson to register Hansen
    so he can vote.

    Nevada law states that the "County Clerk shall require a person to
    submit official identification as proof of residence and identity,
    such as a driver's license or other official document before
    registering him."

    Hansen presented a diploma from high school and a birth certificate,
    but Ferguson demanded a Social Security card, driver's license, or a
    state ID card.

    Hansen does not have those items and in his petition to the court his
    attorney stated, "therefore, he presented alternative identification
    to the Registrar of Voters, but his right to register to vote was
    refused and denied by the county registrar of voters."

    Hansen was more surprised than anyone when his petition was granted
    by the court. "I didn't think I'd win," he said. On Oct. 19, the
    court ordered Ferguson to register Hansen to vote, and he now plans
    to cast his first ballot on Nov. 3.

    This may be just the first of many battles ahead for Hansen. He does
    drive a car, and does not plan to get a license.

    "The government has no right to regulate who can and cannot drive
    unless they have proven themselves to be a danger to the community
    and have been convicted by 12 informed jurors," wrote Hansen in an
    e-mail message to WorldNetDaily.

    "Assuming that everyone is already a danger and by telling us we must
    have a license to drive is known better as 'prior restraint' and
    according to the U.S. Supreme Court is unconstitutional."

    Hansen also objects to the current law which will implement a
    national ID card on Oct. 1, 2000. He says that Congress passed the
    law using illegal immigration control as the excuse.

    "The even more ironic twist is that most of the illegal immigrants
    coming here are filtering from Mexico trying to reap the socialist
    benefits offered by the federal government. Welfare, government
    schools, health care, social security, etc. If you want to stop
    illegal immigration bring back the American way of work hard and
    succeed as opposed to show up and leech off the tax payers," wrote

    He concluded his e-mail by saying, "There is nothing they can ever do
    to make me surrender my personal freedom, nothing. I don't know a lot
    of people who exercise freedom to the point of fanaticism I do. I
    will not pay federal income tax, I will not be marked my their
    unconstitutional anti-Christ numbers. I will not take any of their
    socialist benefits. I will not bow before any bureaucracy. I will not
    surrender my God-given freedom to those bastards for any reason."

    Anyone who has been enumerated at birth can "opt out" when they turn 18!!
    If you don't inform the Social Security Administration they ASSUME that you
    want to continue with the number that was assigned at birth!! Because they
    do not tell you anything about this, it is constructive FRAUD!!

    Write to them and tell them that you do not want their number and you reject
    enumeration!! Send the letter to them by Registered or Certified Mail,
    return receipt requested because they might not acknowledge it.
  2. 1952Sniper

    1952Sniper New Member

    Aug 22, 2002
    Good for Joshua Hansen! I'm shocked that he won that court battle. Pleased, but shocked.

    I was not aware that this had become law. Can you provide more info?
  3. warpig

    warpig Guest

    I do admire his courage
  4. mtaylor

    mtaylor New Member

    Mar 24, 2003

    Makes me wonder if this article is several years old...
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2003
  5. tuckerd1

    tuckerd1 Well-Known Member

    Jun 12, 2001
    Paint Rock Valley, Alabama

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