1814 French (?) Conversion musket identification request

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    Hi all, first post and in need of some help. Anyone able to identify this musket please? Appears to be French, .75 caliber with barrel length 44 3/4. Marks / proofs include B over 1814 on barrel, crown over what I think is a cursive D on several parts, most parts bear number 9 and also number 30, KR mark on inside of lock and on barrel. VIII carved inside stock in lock recess area and also filed on side of mainspring. Letters AC on side plate and on inside of lock. Number 5 on barrel and something that looks like an L or perhaps a U. I can see a number 9 on the hammer screw and also a number 8 and the L or U stamp.

    The musket looks like a Charleville design based on the stock shape including cheek cutout, barrel bands etc. I have not been able to find pictures of conversions that look the same. Will post pics shortly.

    Will welcome any comments.
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    Welcome! the pic's will help
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    Established today that the musket bore about an inch in measures .708 so this is probably a .690 as one would expect, not .750 as I was informed originally. Here are some pictures.

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    Barrel mark.

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    Lock

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    Side view

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    Barrel band

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    Second barrel band

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    Third barrel band

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    Conversion

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    Trigger guard

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    Side plate

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    Stock inlet

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    ok i'll guess

    a pic of the whole rifle wouuld help

    but i cant place those marks

    1777 austrian pattern rifle
    french converted to cap 1814

    told ya wild guess

    its got all the signs of a austrian rifle but without the markings , its had the numbers left on and they are confusing

    the stamp 1814 looks to be post convertion as that finish was filed hard and flush

    after waterloo france had to scrape up weapons it had captured all over as its main arms where taken so many older weapons where converted to arm up again , i think this fits that

    there where even egyptian rifles converted , sad eh i don know if this is one , but it would explain a few things what i do see
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