1814 French (?) Conversion musket identification request

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  1. jack404

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    it this a stamp or a removed stamp ??

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    AC crown over D i cant find sorry

    converted austrian pattern rifle

    pedersoli makes a very good replica though they over do the brass when it should be steel but thats them

    compare

    ( from the cattle dog here )

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  3. AGW

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    Thanks so far! The mark on the inside of the lock is a KR stamp. It's also on the barrel. Bottom line is that it (by best guess) dates to 1812 or before right? The conversion was clearly very professionally done it seems. Since we cannot find manufactured or converted by any of the large or well known places. That makes it kinda cool also. By your best guess it doesn't appear to be a "new" fake, does it?

    Next big question - $650 reasonable or not? The seller wanted $850 then $750 and I offered $650. Basically figured that I couldn't get a new one at the price and old is better in my book anyway......
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    Forgot to ask about the ramrod. Who used this button style as opposed to the fluted style. The owner said this was the original rod.
  5. jack404

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    no they;'d make it more clear to ID from stamps if it was faked if it is the charliville it was made a flinter , then way later was converted , now the file marks around where the pan was cut out and such extend to the 1814 stamp , so that stamp was done after the conversion , so think the year is when it was converted

    but i cant say for sure
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    Some parts of that musket, like the finger grooves, look French, although as Jack says, the Austrians used them as well.

    Just an idea, but I wonder if it is one the many tons of anonymous muskets turned out in Liege in an era before the proof laws were enforced. As such it might well have some features common to French muskets.

    Jim
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    Would like to see pic of entire gun. Thje wood appears to have been sanded/cleaned ibn the not too distant pase.
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