1851 colt revolver

Discussion in 'The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum' started by BrickHarbor, May 14, 2012.

  1. BrickHarbor

    BrickHarbor New Member

    May 14, 2012
    Hello, I was wondering if anyone on here could help me out on a gun I have recently found.

    I've had a specialist view it and he said it was in fairly good condition, all original parts and a legit peice.

    It's a colt revolver in the origional wooden box.

    Its an 1851 model with the London address on the top, it also has 'JFB' engraved onto the handle.

    Serial numbers 1622 so I believe it was made in 1855?

    Unfortunately as I'm posting on my phone I cannot upload photos.

    The dealer I saw offered me £500 for it, but I'm convinced it is worth a lot more than that.

    Could anyone help me out please?
    Last edited: May 14, 2012
  2. Hammerslagger

    Hammerslagger New Member

    Jul 30, 2009
    Yes it is likely worth more than that in the USA.

  3. BrickHarbor

    BrickHarbor New Member

    May 14, 2012
    I'm also wondering if there is anyway in tracking the history of the gun? I'm quite intrigued with the 'JFB' engraving, a quick google search brought up John Frederick Bell and James Frederick bell who were in the civil war around the time the gun was produced.
  4. Hawg

    Hawg Well-Known Member

    Mar 23, 2011
    You can probably google the enlistment rolls of every cavalry regiment and find two or three JFB's and FWIW the CW didn't start til 1861.
  5. popgun

    popgun New Member

    Sep 21, 2009
    with a London address and the hint that you were offered £500 you are in Fngland, right. So I doubt it was used over here in our Civil War.
  6. BrickHarbor

    BrickHarbor New Member

    May 14, 2012
    It was my great grandfathers I believe, and he was in some form of the forces..
  7. BrickHarbor

    BrickHarbor New Member

    May 14, 2012
    Today I have spoken with a few people who i sent photographs of the gun, I've now had valuations upto £4000.

    It's believed to be a special order gun, but I traced my family tree and there was no one with the matching initials engraved into the gun. And it was also believed to have been used in the crimean war.

    Quite puzzled now.
  8. BETH

    BETH Well-Known Member

    Jul 10, 2009
    Pictures please
  9. BrickHarbor

    BrickHarbor New Member

    May 14, 2012
  10. marshfellow

    marshfellow Member

    Jul 6, 2011
    I would definately contact the Colt Historical Dept with the serial number of the gun. A letter for the serial number's record may be pricey but may be well worth the cost. tjw@foxriversporting.com Tom
  11. BrickHarbor

    BrickHarbor New Member

    May 14, 2012
    According to the website the letter won't be available with my serial number. Apparently there's only about 40,000 records left out of 200,000+
  12. jack404

    jack404 Former Guest

    Jan 11, 2010
    Brick Harbour , G'day from Australia , mate thats a ripper

    the initials on the spine are of the owner , not the maker , in english gun smith tradition this is the owners initials , so theres a place to start on a special order , Colts representative in London at the time was the J marsden and Sons Co of eastgate London after 1856 this became non exclusive

    i'd value your piece in box at $10,000 AUD ( about the same in USD ) and more if the info so far is correct

    just from what i see in the pic's

    and agree that it would sell best in the USA

    a respected dealer who is also a expert of British smiths and British historical weapons

    James D. Julia 207-453-7125 in the USA , i've used them a number of times for antique and specialist weapons and found them to be honest but not cheap in fee's

    i'm one who prefers honesty to cheapness , also their sales rooms are always Packed ( counter bids)

    My Uk contact for this sort of this recently passed away , Sir Richard Weathers of the royal amoury .. so cannot suggest someone more local

    good luck

    oh a bit on british military tradition

    carrying a fathers sword or pistol

    or commanders sword or pistol was very common up until ww2

    check the history for your forefathers regiments , see who their commanders where

    if he died in battle then a junior officer would carry either a sword or pistol ,

    and crimea, with all them losses ? good chance there ..

    references of this practise are many but best source is Janes British Military History and Customs
    Last edited: May 15, 2012
  13. towboater

    towboater New Member

    Jan 17, 2012
    Awesome 51 Colt!!!!!!!!! Congrats!!!!!!!
  14. oneshot onekill

    oneshot onekill New Member

    May 27, 2010
    DeBary, Florida
    That is the nicest I've ever seen that wasn't pictured in a reference book! It could bring upwards of $20,000 here in the States to a serious collector. The engraving appears to be "Factory". What a BEAUTY!!!
  15. Ken W

    Ken W Member

    Jan 9, 2011
    Asheville, NC
    I couldn't locate any pictures using those links. Sounds like a really nice gun though.
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