1908 vest pocket colt 25 auto nickel and stag?

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  1. fleetwood1976

    fleetwood1976 Active Member

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    Just wanted to pop this little guy on for evaluation and discussion. It was part of a 3 gun deal. It dates to 1920. Did Colt have factory Stags on these? functions flawlessly. the lettering is very crisp and destinct but slide shows areas of possible re-nickel or polishing of original nickel. matching serial numbers. I am trying to determine a breakdown of this deal as far as gun value. I am rating this one as a $200 to $300 piece, possible more to the feller that falls in love with it. What do you think?

    It is 95%+ condition wise, but In my opinion not 100% original. The forum is usually pretty harsh on refinished guns, But I see obvious redone pieces go for big bucks on auction sites. Do you think it is personal preferance or lack of knowlege?

    I saw a 70's ruger blackhawk redone in nickel (not one of the rare factory originals) go for over $700.00. it was probably a $200 blackhawk to begin with.

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  2. CHW2021

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    No real comments on the possible refinishing on this pistol, the price (as a carry gun) in the $200.00 range is not too bad. The real issue with refinished guns is that some/most people feel that the refinishing adds either dollar for dollar value to the gun or exponentially increases the value.
    Most refinishing work will reduce the value OF A COLLECTOR GRADE FIREARM to a collector. As a shooter, I would consider a refurbished gun at a fair price depending on the overall quality of that piece. A reblued gun done by a home gunsmith can be a good shooter, a reblued gun done by a master level gunsmith (and documented) could not affect the value of a collectors item.
    If you had documentation from Colt regarding any work on this pistol, your gun would be much closer to mint condition.

    In the case of a online auction, I simply can not understand the prices, it seems a lot of people go a little crazy or simply lack better judgement.
    I wonder how much buyers remorse is felt?
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    It is my opinion that it has been refinished, but it was a very good job. The stag grips were available on special order from Colt, and are worth nearly $200 alone. I think the value of the pistol with these grips is around $450.
  4. fleetwood1976

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    that is comforting to know on the stags. I have never seen them. As I stated on the refinish the lettering is perfect, even under magnification. The refinisher must have really known what they were doing. I have always wanted one of these little colts but never wanted to pay what they were worth.

    this one came with a new in box bisley vaquero stainless in 357. and a pre-war 32 regulation police S&W in blue that is a 98 to 99% original finish gun all for $1200.00. That is the most I have ever spent at one time on guns. But I couldn't see going home with out any of them.
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    I don't think you are guilty of larceny, but you didn't get badly hurt either if the S&W is as you say.

    I agree the nickel is a refinish, but it might even be a factory job as it is very well done. IIRC, the safety and the trigger on nickel plated guns were case colored.

    Jim
  6. fleetwood1976

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    Jim the smith is truly 98 to 99% possibly unfired. the bisley ruger new vaquero is new in box. I figured $400 each and that means I paid all the colt is probably worth and I feel the other two were bought very right. but The collector grade older guns aren't real hot right now. I hated to part with that much money, but I figure I am adding good quality pieces that shouldn't go down in value.
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    P.S. beats the heck out of making .15% on $1200 in the bank.
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    I agree with Wonder, the stag should add to this guns value. Plus, anything Colt and compact should help. Sounds like a fair deal to me Fleetwood, 3 guns, one NIB and one full of nostalgia! Congrats
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    Hey Cadillac,
    When we had real gun stores, before wally-world-gander mt-internet......
    I remember these stag grips. They were normal to see on nice guns.
    In an era a long time ago,everyone I knew carried a .25 auto and felt safe with the 'calbre'. [The .380 auto was also a norm]
    Even on knives, the real stag was a common handle.{see my Puma Skinner in 'knives'] Of course we have progressed to Pachmayr, Hogue, etc.
    This little .25 Colt is BEAUTIFUL !! Did I say BEAUTIFUL !! ?
    Please forgive my manners, I meant
    BEAUTIFUL !!!!!!!
    Yes, it looks to be a factory re-nickel..... BUT so what? (refer to above)
    You probably ain't thunk it (southern dialect) but think about this when you look at how clear the stamping is.........
    When you re-blue you have to sand the gun. Not when you re-nickel.
    Have you ever seen how they re-chrome ? It is all 'dipped' in a vat, then another.....but not sanded. One finish removed in the tank, another finish applied.[simple version]
    My OPINION..........If I was so fortunate to possess this beauty, I would
    NEVER let it go !!!!!!!
    How many have you seen ? Held? Googled? Who cares? It's in your hands !
    Just let me know...something I have you would trade it to me for?
    I don't have any money at this time[another unemployed business owner]
    or I would offer to buy it.
    If you part with it -EVER-you will regret it.
    Just my honest opinion Brother. {did I mention she was BEAUTIFUL?}:cool:
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    It truely is a beautiful pistol.
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    ozo, I am pretty sure I will be dead when it sells and maybe even the wife, she likes it too. she absolutely loves the 32 regulation police. i have always wanted a colt 25, I have a titan tiger, neat gun but not a colt. I don't usually sell anything colt or smith. or anything american made for that matter. I cant believe how collectable rugers are now.

    I am sort of self employed - unemployed too. Got let go at a factory last march and just do part time trade work for funeral homes. $1200 is like a months expenses for me. But I weighed the options, It ticked me off to pay $1200 but it would have ticked me off much worse to leave them there.
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    Here are pics of the other two parts of the deal.

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    sorry for picture quality but the smith has a little wear on the extrator rod and where the cylender has come out and that is about it. pictures don't do it justice.

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    here is one of the ruger.

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    last one, does anyone know how to make these pics smaller?

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  16. Bill DeShivs

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    I doubt the refinish is factory, and I doubt Colt would have use stag of that quality for grips. Colt also wouldn't have gold plated the grip screw.
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    For whatever it's worth, my resource says that only a total of 17 Colt model M and N (1903 .32 cal., 1908 .25 cal. and 1908 .380 cal.) were shipped from Colt with stag grips. Chances are, this isn't one of them....but who knows?

    Kerry
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    might be worth a chance on a factory letter.
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    Smaller pics

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