.22 ballistic coefficient

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  1. BlackEagle

    BlackEagle Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Got some .22 CCI AR Tactical the other day and like it. My old Jaeger is kind of picky about what ammo it cycles, and seems to like CCI mini-mag, and the CCI AR Tactical. Both shoot about the same precision. I was intrigued by a thread discussing long distance (>100yards) .22 shooting, and thought I'd try to work out the balistics for longer distances.

    Does anyone know where I can get the BC for the CCI mini-mag solid point and for the AR Tactical? Both are copper jacketed round nosed 40 gr projectiles.

    I can't see it on the CCI website.

    Thanks.
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    Boy have I got you covered.. ;)

    Long Range .22LR is one of my passions.

    (.17 HORNADY MACH 2)--24-in.barrel, 1 turn in 16-inch twist)

    HORNADY, 17-gr. V-Max Bullet (83177), 2100 MV, 166 ME, 0.125 BC


    (.17 HORNADY MAGNUM RIMFIRE)--24-in. barrel, 1 turn in 16-inch twist)

    HORNADY, 17-gr. V-Max Bullet (83170), 2550 MV, 245 ME, 0.125 BC

    HORNADY, 20-gr. XTP (83172), 2375 MV, 250 ME, 0.1253 BC

    REMINGTON, 17-gr. Premier V-Max AccuTip (PR17HM1), 2550 MV, 245 ME, ? BC---(BC, barrel length & rate of twist to be verified w/Remington.)

    CCI, 17-gr. TNT HP Hollow Point (0053), 2525 MV, 241 ME, 0.110 BC (Appx.)---(Barrel length: 24 in., rate-of-twist: 1 turn in 9 in., and BC, approximated, as per verification w/ CCI.)

    FEDERAL, 17-gr. Speer TNT JHP (P770), 2550 MV, 245 ME, 0.100 BC---(24-inch barrel length, rate-of-twist: 1 turn in 9 inches.)

    FEDERAL, 17-gr. Hornady V-Max (P771), 2550 MV, 245 ME, 0.120 BC---(24-inch barrel length, rate-of-twist: 1 turn in 9 inches.)



    (.22 SHORT--24-in. barrel, 1 turn in 16-inch twist)


    CCI, 29-gr. Short High Speed Solid (0027), 1132 MV, 83 ME, 0.105 BC
    CCI, 27-gr. Short HP (0028), 1164 MV, 81 ME, 0.105 BC
    SELLIER and BELLOT, 28-gr. Short (SBA02204), 932 MV, 54 ME, 0.065 BC
    RWS, 28-gr. Short R25 (213 4267), 560 MV, 20 ME, 0.047 BC
    AGUILA, 29-gr. Short High Velocity, 1095 MV, 77 ME, 0.105 BC
    REMINGTON, 29-gr. Short Solid (1022), 1095 MV, 77 ME, 0.105 BC

    WINCHESTER, 29-gr. Short Standard Vel. Solid (X22S), 1095 MV, 77 ME, 0.105 BC

    CCI, 29-gr. Short Target Solid (0037), 830 MV, 44 ME, 0.074 BC
    ELEY, 29-gr. Short Rapid Fire Match, 750 MV, 36 ME, 0.050 BC

    CCI, 29-gr. Short CB Lead Round Nose Solid (0026), 727 MV, 33 ME, 0.072 BC---(Note: CCI's ballistics do not list a BC. They show MV out of a 6-inch handgun barrel as 706 fps with 32 ME.)

    FIOCCHI, 29-gr. Short Round Nose Compensated Solid (22SM200), 650 MV, 27 ME, 0.110 BC



    (.22 LONG--24-in. barrel, 1 turn in 16-inch twist)

    CCI, 29-gr. Long High Speed (0029), 1180 MV, 90 ME, 0.109 BC

    CCI, CB Long Solid (0038), 727 MV, 33 ME, 0.072 BC---(Note: CCI's ballistics do not list a BC. They show MV out of a 6-inch handgun barrel as 706 fps with 32 ME.)



    (.22 LONG RIFLE, Standard Vel. & Match Ammo--24-in. barrel, 1 turn in 16-inch twist)

    SWARTKLIP, 13-gr. LR SDP Subsonic Diabolo Pellet (SK006), 480 MV, 7 ME ? BC---(BC & rate of twist to be verified w/ArmsCorpUSA. Barrel length: 24 in.)

    LAPUA, 36-gr. LR Subsonic HP (4312246), 1033 MV, 85 ME, 0.118 BC
    REMINGTON, 38-gr. LR Subsonic HP (SUB22HP), 1050 MV, 93 ME, 0.125 BC
    AGUILA, 38-gr. LR Subsonic HP, 1025 MV, 88 MV, 0.111 BC
    PMC, 38-gr. LR Modrator Subsonic Vel. (22SS), 1000 MV, 84 ME, 0.107 BC
    RWS, 40-gr. R100 (213 4195), 1175 MV, 123 ME, 0.130 BC

    REMINGTON, 40-gr. LR Target Solid (6122) (6100), 1150 MV, 117 ME, 0.149 BC

    WINCHESTER, 40-gr. T22 LR Std. Vel. Solid (XT22LR), 1150 MV, 117 ME, 0.149 BC

    FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Ultramatch Solid (UM1), 1140 MV, 115 ME, 0.149 BC
    FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Match Solid (900), 1140 MV, 115 ME, 0.149 BC
    AGUILA, 40-gr. LR Std. Vel., 1135 MV, 114 ME, 0.158 BC

    PMC, 40-gr. Scoremaster LR Std. Vel. Solid (22SM), 1135 MV, 114 ME, 0.111 BC

    FIOCCHI, 40-gr. LR Biathlon Match Solid (22SM340), 1120 MV, 111 ME, 0.140 BC=Estimated

    AGUILA, 40-gr. LR Match Golden Eagle, 1100 MV, 110 ME, 0.109 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Polar Biathlon Solid (4317023), 1100 MV, 107 ME, 0.108 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Tenex Ultimate EPS, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Match EPS, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Club, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Target, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.105 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Practice, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Standard, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Biathlon Match, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. LR Silhouex, 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.150 BC
    REMINGTON/ELEY,40-gr. Match EPS (RE22EPS), 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.149 BC
    REMINGTON/ELEY, 40-gr. Club Extra (RE22CX), 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.149 BC
    REMINGTON/ELEY, 40-gr. Target Rifle (RE22T), 1085 MV, 105 ME, 0.149 BC
    AGUILA, 40-gr. Match Rifle, 1080 MV, 100 ME, 0.197 BC

    SELLIER and BELLOT, 40-gr. LR SB Standard (SBA02201), 1084 MV, 104 ME, 0.131 BC

    SELLIER and BELLOT, 40-gr. LR SB Standard (SBA02202), 1084 MV, 104 ME, 0.131 BC

    FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Ultramatch Solid (UM1B), 1080 MV, 105 ME, 0.139 BC
    FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Target Solid (711B), 1080 MV, 105 ME, 0.138 BC
    FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Match Solid (900B), 1080 MV, 105 ME, 0.139 BC
    RWS, 40-gr. LR Target Rifle (213 2478), 1080 MV, 100 ME, 0.109 BC
    CCI, 40-gr. LR Std. Vel. Solid (0032), 1070 MV, 100 ME, 0.105 BC
    CCI, 40-gr. LR Green Tag Comp. Solid (0033), 1070 MV, 100 ME, 0.105 BC
    CCI, 40-gr. LR Pistol Match Solid (0051), 1070 MV, 100 ME, 0.105 BC
    RWS, 40-gr. LR R50 (21304187), 1070 MV, 100 ME, 0.105 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Master Solid (4317033), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Midas L Solid (4317022), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Midas M Solid (4317021), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC
    NORMA 1, 40-gr. Lead, Round Nose (15613), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC
    NORMA 2, 40-gr. Lead, Round Nose (15614), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC
    NORMA 3, 40-gr. Lead, Round Nose (15615), 1066 MV, 101 ME, 0.132 BC
    FIOCCHI, 40-gr. LR-Rifle Match Solid (22SM320), 1050 MV, 98 ME, 0.140 BC
    FIOCCHI, 40-gr. LR Match Trng. Solid (22M320), 1050 MV, 98 ME, 0.130 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Super Club Solid (4317066), 1050 MV, 98 ME, 0.114 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Std. Rifle Club Solid (43122420), 1050 MV, 98 ME, 0.114 BC
    WOLF, 40-gr. LR Match Target Solid Round Nose, 1050 MV, 97.91 ME, ? BC*
    WOLF, 40-gr. LR Match Extra Solid Round Nose, 1033 MV, 94.77 ME, ? BC*
    WOLF, 40-gr. LR Match Gold Solid Round Nose, 1033 MV, 94.77 ME, ? BC*
    PMC, 40-gr. Match Rifle (22MR), 1050 MV, 98 ME, 0.110 BC
    RWS, 40-gr. LR Rifle Match (213 4225), 1035 MV, 95 ME, 0.096 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Tenex Ultimate EPS Pistol, 1030 MV, 94 ME, 0.109 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Pistol Xtra, 1030 MV, 94 ME, 0.109 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Target Pistol, 1030 MV, 94 ME, 0.109 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Pistol King Solid (4317031), 1033 MV, 95 ME, 0.130 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Pistol Trainer Solid (4312260), 1033 MV, 95 ME, 0.130 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. Pistol Match, 1000 MV, 89 ME, 0.140 BC
    FIOCCHI, 40-gr. LR Pistol Match Solid (22SM300), 984 MV, 86 ME, 0.130 BC
    FIOCCHI, 40-gr. LR Match Trng. Solid (22M300), 984 MV, 86 ME, 0.125 BC
    PMC, 40-gr. Match Pistol (22MP), 900 MV, 72 ME, 0.095 BC
    WINCHESTER, 40-gr. LR Lead HP (W22LRB), 1150 MV, 117 ME, 0.150 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. LR Subsonic Xtra Plus, 1065 MV, 100 ME, 0.115 BC
    RWS, 40-gr. LR Subsonic HP (213 2494), 1000 MV, 90 ME, 0.092 BC
    LAPUA, 48-gr. LR Scoremax Solid (4317030), 1033 MV, 114 ME, 0.144 BC
    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Multi Match Solid (4317020), 1100 MV, 129 ME, 0.134 BC
    AGUILA, 60-gr. SSS Sniper Subsonic, 950 MV, 120 ME, 0.090 BC

    *NOTE: Queried WOLF company directly to verify the above, however, they said they did NOT have available any of the BCs for the above three loads, nor did they list the length of the test barrel or its rate of twist. Will try asking them again for the BCs, test barrel length and rate of twist.)



    (.22 LONG RIFLE, High Velocity & Hyper Velocity)

    AGUILA, 30-gr. Super Maximum Solid P., 1750 MV, 204 ME, 0.102 BC
    AGUILA, 30-gr. Super Maximim Hollow P., 1750 MV, 204 ME, 0.102 BC

    FEDERAL, 31-gr. LR Hyper Vel. HP Copper Pltd. (724), 1550 MV, 165 ME, 0.107 BC

    CCI, 32-gr. LR Stinger HP (0050), 1640 MV, 191 ME, 0.103 BC
    CCI, 32-gr. Quik-Shok (0064), 1640 MV, 191 ME, 0.103 BC
    REMINGTON, 33-gr. LR Yellow Jacket HP (1722), 1500 MV, 165 ME, 0.107 BC

    SWARTKLIP, 35-gr. LR SLD Spitzer Low Drag (SK001), 1410 MV, 157 ME, ? BC---(BC & rate of twist to be verified w/ArmsCorpUSA. Barrel length: 24 in.)

    REMINGTON, 36-gr. LR Viper Solid (1922), 1410 MV, 159 ME, 0.117 BC
    SELLIER and BELLOT, 36-gr. LR HV (SBA02206), 1330 MV, 141 ME, 0.091 BC

    LAPUA, 36-gr. LR HP (4312245), 1345 MV, 145 ME, 0.122 BC
    CCI, 36-gr. LR Mini-Mag HP (0031), 1280 MV, 135 ME, 0.126 BC
    REMINGTON, 36-gr. LR Cyclone HP (CY22HP), 1280 MV, 131 ME, 0.124 BC
    REMINGTON, 36-gr. LR HP (1622), 1280 MV, 131 ME, 0.124 BC
    FEDERAL, 36-gr. LR HP (730), 1255 MV, 125 ME, 0.125 BC
    WINCHESTER, 36-gr. LR HP (XPERT22), 1220 MV, 122 ME, 0.105 BC
    WINCHESTER, 37-gr. LR HP (X22LRH), 1280 MV, 135 ME, 0.128 BC
    ELEY, 37.5-gr. LR HV Hollow, 1312 MV, 143, ME, 0.193 BC
    SELLIER and BELLOT, 38-gr. HV HP (SBA02203), 1281 MV, 138 ME, 0.102 BC
    AGUILA, 38-gr. LR High Vel. HP, 1280 MV, 138 ME, 0.124 BC

    SWARTKLIP, 38-gr. LR SXHP Super Hollow Point (SK002), 1340 MV, 156 ME, ? BC---(BC & rate of twist to be verified w/ArmsCorpUSA. Barrel length: 24 in.)

    AMERICAN EAGLE (Federal) 38-gr. LR Hollow Point Copper-Plated (AE22), 1280 MV, 140 ME, 0.132 BC

    FEDERAL, 38-gr. LR HP Copper-Plated (712), 1280 MV, 140 ME, 0.132 BC
    PMC, 38-gr. Zapper LR High Vel. HP CC (22D), 1280 MV, 138 ME, 0.109 BC

    SWARTKLIP, 39-gr. STB Sabre Tip Bullet (SK004), 1340 MV, 150 ME, ? BC---(BC & rate of twist to be verified w/ArmsCorpUSA. Barrel length: 24 in.)

    LAPUA, 40-gr. LR Speed Ace Solid (4312243), 1345 MV, 161 ME, 0.120 BC
    ELEY, 40-gr. LR HV Solid, 1312 MV, 153 ME, 0.193 BC

    AMERICAN EAGLE (Federal) 40-gr. LR Solid (AE5022), 1260 MV, 140 ME, 0.138 BC

    FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Solid, Copper Plated (710) (810), 1260 MV, 140 ME, 0.138 BC

    FEDERAL, 40-gr. LR Solid (510), 1260 MV, 140 ME, 0.138 BC
    CCI, 40-gr. LR Silhouette (0065), 1255 MV, 140 ME, 0.138 BC
    CCI, 40-gr. LR HS Mini-Mag Solid (0030), 1255 MV, 140 ME, 0.138 BC
    PMC, 40-gr. Zapper LR High Vel. Solid CC (22CC), 1255 MV, 140 ME, 0.121 BC
    REMINGTON, 40-gr. LR Solid (1522), 1255 MV, 140 ME, 0.138 BC
    REMINGTON, 40-gr. LR Thunderbolt Solid (TB22A), 1255 MV, 140 ME, 0.139 BC
    WINCHESTER, 40-gr. LR Wildcat Solid (WW22LR), 1255 MV, 140 ME, 0.139 BC
    WINCHESTER, 40-gr. LR Solid (X22LR), 1255 MV, 140 ME, 0.139 BC
    AGUILA 40-gr. LR High Velocity, 1250 MV, 139 ME, 0.141 BC
    PMC, 40-gr. Sidewinder LR High Vel. Solid (22SC), 1250 MV, 139 ME, 0.121 BC
    CCI, 40-gr. Velocitor HP (0047), 1435 MV, 183 ME, 0.132 BC
    RWS, 40-gr. High Velocity HP (213 2494), 1310 MV, 150 ME, 0.104 BC

    WINCHESTER, 40-gr. LR Power-Point HP (X22LRPP), 1280 MV, 146 ME, 0.118 BC

    SWARTKLIP, 45-gr. SHP Solid Heavyweight Bullet (SK003), 1225 MV, 156 ME, ? BC---(BC & rate of twist to be verified w/ArmsCorpUSA. Barrel length: 24 in.)



    (.22 WINCHESTER MAGNUM RIMFIRE--WMR)

    CCI, 30-gr. WMR Maxi-Mag + V HP (0059), 2200 MV, 322 ME, 0.084 BC
    CCI, 30-gr. WMR TNT HP (0063), 2200 MV, 322 ME, 0.084 BC
    FEDERAL, 30-gr. WMR Jacketed HP (767), 2200 MV, 325 ME, 0.088 BC
    FEDERAL, 30-gr. WMR TNT JHP (P765), 2200 MV, 325 ME, 0.079 BC

    REMINGTON, 33-gr. WMR Premier V-Max Boat Tail (R22M1), 2000 MV, 293 ME, 0.137 BC

    WINCHESTER 34-gr. WMR Jacketed HP (S22WM), 2120 MV, 338 ME, 0.102 BC
    CCI, 40-gr. WMR Maxi-Mag Solid (0023), 1910 MV, 324 ME, 0.110 BC
    FEDERAL, 40-gr. WMR FMJ Solid (737), 1910 MV, 325 ME, 0.111 BC

    PMC, 40-gr. WMR Predator Magnum Jacketed Soft Point (22WMA), 1910 MV, 324 ME, 0.183 BC

    PMC, 40-gr. WMR Predator Magnum Jacketed Hollow Point (22WMB), 1910 MV, 324 ME, 0.183 BC

    REMINGTON, 40-gr. WMR Pointed Soft Point Solid (R22M2), 1910 MV, 324 ME, 0.114 BC

    WINCHESTER, 40-gr. WMR FMJ Solid (X22M), 1910 MV, 324 ME, 0.110 BC
    CCI, 40-gr. WMR Maxi-Mag HP (0024), 1910 MV, 324 ME, 0.110 BC
    REMINGTON, 40-gr. WMR Jacketed HP (R22M2), 1910 MV, 324 ME, 0.116 BC
    WINCHESTER, 40-gr. WMR Jacketed HP (X22MH), 1910 MV, 324 ME, 0.110 BC
    FEDERAL, 50-gr. WMR Jacketed HP (757), 1650 MV, 302 ME, 0.158 BC
  3. JLA

    JLA Well-Known Member

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    I highlighted your request in red. The CCI AR ammo should have pretty darn close to the same figures for calculating long range shots. I think it runs close to the same velocity too.
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    BlackEagle Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Wow!! It's like hitting the jackpot on one of those one-armed bandits!! The info just keeps coming. Thanks, JLA.

    The AR Tactical has a quoted speed on the box of 1200 fps. I tried it out at the range today. At 25 yards I got this (bench rest) out of my Jaeger, which is not really a tack driver, but is fun to shoot. :)

    IMAG0148.jpg
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    JLA Well-Known Member

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    Shoot thats good enough! Nice shootn!
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    BlackEagle Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Thanks. I like it when a group comes together.
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    JLA Well-Known Member

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    you and me both. Heres a couple bug holes i shot at 50 yds with my rem 5 and aguila GE match rifle ammo, right after I stumbled across this solid gold rimfire ballistic info.

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    BlackEagle Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    That's a tack driver. Excellent shooting.
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    Love it. Its my 200 yd beer can buster.
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    I was going to ask that question myself when the wind drift seemed to be a lot less than I thought it should have been.

    Thanks for the info!
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    BlackEagle Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Just got this info from the CCI people in reply to their web-based contact form:

    Each bullet for the Mini-Mag 40 grain and AR-Tactical have a .124 BC.

    Austin @ CCI/Speer

    The AR round has a slightly different shape to the mini-mag. Not sure how they can both have the same BC. Any hints? Have they changed the shape of the mini-mag head?

    The Mini Mag is on the left, the AR Tactical is on the right.
    mini mag vs AR tactical.jpg
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    JLA Well-Known Member

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    Dunno. Usually a different Ogive profile means a different BC. Test them at 200 yds using the BC known for the CCI minimag and see if they share a common POI. If the BCs and velocities match then they should have the same POI.

    Im thinkin the changed the nose profile a bit to facilitate better feeding in the AR.
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    Thanks. Will do. It'll have to be 100 yards--that's all our club range will do. The club goes out to the military range on certain days where we can get longer range shooting--up to 600 yards, but only with center fire rifles. We're under militay rules there.
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    100 should be enough. The results will be less profound, but you should be able to tell if theyre gonna hit the same POI.
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    Finally got to the range to do some testing at 100 yards. 10 rounds of each type of CCI minimag. The POI's are different, but so are the velocities. These are shot from a Jaeger AR-15 look-alike which is fun to shoot, but not a tack driver. Maybe I'll get one of those some day. :)

    Solid point, CCI Minimag: 1255 fps
    DSCF2940small.jpg

    CCI AR Tactical: 1200 fps
    DSCF2942small.jpg

    CCI Minimag HP is a little more scattered:
    DSCF2939small.jpg

    Just for what it's worth.
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