.22's you would not buy or own again...

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  1. Dragoon

    Dragoon New Member

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    I'd like to address the topic of "bad" .22's, the ones that give cause to disappoint or frustrate for one reason or another. You would think that designing & manufacturing a reliable & durable .22 would not be too hard a task, relatively speaking, but certainly some have fallen short.

    Case in point: the Marlin 88 semi-automatic rifle, an early 1950's product. These are usually found with the bolt operating handle sheared off or missing entirely, this essential part being for some reason far too fragile. The 88 also suffers from having to be loaded through the buttplate, which in the field is not the handiest system.

    Functioning is generally not terrible, but when a jam does occur, it can be in the area at the top of the feeding tube, where the bolt can actually crush a partly protruding cartridge. Clearing this mashed round requires removing the action from the stock, which again is not an ideal situation in the field.

    The final strike against the 88 is the lack of provision for mounting a scope, not unusual for a gun of its era, but nonetheless it means you are stuck with the mediocre iron sights.

    Any other candidates in this category?
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    The Mossberg 151k is much the same
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    Yup, it seems Smith and Wesson has a hard time making a good .22. Owned a 22A. It would fire anything, only problem was ya never knew where the bullet was gonna hit the paper. Not to mention the bottoms of the mags falling apart. Sold it.
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    Clean it every 50 rnds and don't shoot garbage thru it.
    and ya won't have a problem;)
  5. Dragoon

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    That brings to mind a pistol I can disparage a bit, the Smith & Wesson Model 61 Escort (& I'm generally speaking an S&W aficionado). Awkward to hold, ungainly in appearance, & with its minimalist sights & short barrel, you certainly weren't going to be picking flies off with it. The cheesy plastic grips were not typical S&W quality, either, more the kind of stuff you see on a Lorcin. Just a gun I never saw much purpose to, other than slipping it in your pocket on the "something is better than nothing" rationale.
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    S&W dropped the Escort then re-issued it as a stainless version or a aluminum version with a longer barrel in the early 1990's. It was no better, in my opinion, with its reincarnation. My son had the aluminum framed version when he was in junior high school. Even he found it to be too light. It was uniquely made, lots of stamped steel trigger parts, and shot barely OK when it was not wandering all over the target while trying to aim it. But it is not the worst gun I ever owned but probably the worst 22. But I have avoided all the cheapy guns so my experiences are probably offset from the norm. I never owned one of the Saturday Nite Specials like the Jennings pistols. Friends have and they were absolutely junk. One of my friends even had the Jennings slide exit off the rear of the gun during firing and this was a new gun!

    LDBennett
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    I actually carry a J-22 in my pocket every day around my property (for snakes); I've shot it & have no cause for complaint, it's accurate & reliable enough, but there's no doubt it's a cast "disposable" that I wouldn't expect to hold up after thousands of rounds. Ergonomically, it's light years ahead of the Escort.
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    Remington 522, got one now I dont want. The trigger system is the pits
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    I would never want, or buy one of the new breed of "plastic fantastics" Like Neos, Walther p22, S&W 22, etc. I did like the look of the Mosquito, but am not willing to go through a long and tedious break in period while I try to find the right spring/ammo combo. I would put my money on a Ruger. TJ
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    Jennings .22 I had one of those pile of junks I carried in my tool box on the jobsite. Missfiered, stovepiped, Fell apart in your hand. Total junk.
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    Same here with J22. In less than 50 rds.

    Had a Taurus 9 shot revolver that may have got out of time. Last time I shot it, lead splattered front of frame, down side of forcing cone, and top of index finger. Hurt like a sum beach.

    Found out later in life if you need a 22 pistol, buy a Ruger.
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    REMINGTON 522 VIPER
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    I bought a LLamma 22 , looked like a miniature 1911. Took it out the first day and it went Full Auto during the first couple of mags. Peened the firing pin in the out position and would empty the mag real quick. Took it back the same day.
    Never bought another LLamma brand of anything ever again.:(
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    i wount take anything for my llama .380 made in spain, sweetist shooter i ever held..i have 2 mags for carry and defence..bought from a retired gun shop owner as a daily carrier..urs must have been made in the us..cheap s**t knock offs..
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    I have one of those LLamas. Thirty years old. Less than one box through it.
    Gotta watch that hammer.
    Mag
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    I bought a Ruger 77-22. I had high hopes for that gun. I can shoot a rifle and I love an accurate gun. First trip to the range, six to eight inches at 50. Sent it back to Ruger. Two months later I got it back, six to eight inches at 50. I called them. "It meets Ruger accuracy specifications." "What are Ruger accuracy specifications?" Answer: Ruger accuracy specifications are a secret. I sold it in frustration. I wish now I had kept the Ruger and rebarreled it.

    High Standard Sentinel Deluxe, nine shot revolver, they don't make them anymore, good thing. My father bought one, the recoil shield where the firing pin emerges got beat in so the fired cases drag. Oddly enough, rat shot works fine. It was my rat shot gun when I had pecan trees. I had some pitched CQBs with rats:D:D:D:D
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    yea mag.dropped the hammer decocking.. dug some carpet.now i do it the safe way,clip out, breach clear.
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    henry lever, standard model... worked well... couldnt hit anythign with it.. first shot would hit where you aim.. the warmer it got. the looser the group got. i've heard people swear by them henries. gunsmith said my complaint is common though. i've yet to see anyone that swears by their henry actually be able to hit anything with it smallern a coke can at 25 yards. i can hit an empty 9mm casing with my remington 41 targetmaster though at 25 yards using a rest and iron's, or empty shotgun shells offhand
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    I take it you got a bad one? I have one & it shoots okay, & while the construction is not what I'd characterize either as robust or finely finished, it is about what I'd expect at this price point. Many of the .22 SA's imported from Germany in years past were a lot worse.
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