1. jstgsn

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    Very good!! 1 other thought, make these people go to a "Third World Country" and see just how fortunate we all are!
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    Still too much pandering to oil,banking ,and big business for my taste.What he described as a hardship,I view as vacation time;to be longed for with all my heart.While the OWS movement is flawed,so is the Tea Party.Neither offers a rational solution to the current mess,although both have shown that a lot of folks are PO'd.
    Here's my suggestion:go fishing.Every man or woman that has worked or still works,still tries to hold back the enevitable decline of a thankless culture that uses them and their kids as it used the preceding generations to make a few rich off the sweat of the many;take the week off.Don't by wallyworld junk,gasoline,whatever.Just forget the bills and go fishing.Relax,they can't arrest us all!
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    You have not been paying attention! Bad boy! The OWS movement has presented a solution to the problems we now have, as they see them, it's called Socialism!

    The Tea Party people have also presented solutions to the problems we now have, as they see them, it's called the Constitution! Still I like your suggestion that we all go fishing for a while! And like you I love to camp out, and I don't mean with a camp trailer, or motor home! A tent, and a fire! Cook what I want, even if I have to supply it form Mother Nature!

    While I did enjoy the video, I don't think 3.5 days is enough time, let's make it 2 weeks! At the end of that time I asure you that the OWS protesters will have a change of heart!
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    The Rebels Without A Clue, who declare the evils of capitalism, would never survive out of cell phone range. Anybody else notice how many of them are swathed in name brand garb and toting high-tech electronics? :)
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    Yep! And almost none of them have a job!
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    we had a program here for "young offenders" to take them into the bush and educate them ,

    the kids spent most of their time contacting child rights advicates and getting court injunctions to prevent us removing their mobile phones as a cruel and unusual punishment

    my suggestion was the gaol them as then they'd not have any right to any phone and they could deal with that then

    i suppect the "occupiers" would do very much similar
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    Funny how you mentioned that the Tea Party doesn't have a solution, the banks, oil and big business are pandered to. But you never mention the party in charge (the Democrats). I can only reason from this that you are a liberal and possibly in favor of the socialist movement in this country.
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    Actually,not a member of any party.If you want,call me a Progressive(and look a little further back than FDR when you look for my kind);or possibly even an Anarchist(although,since no one seems to understand the philosopy of true anarchism that might not work either) if you like.Pretty disgusted with the basic inability of folks to just get along with each other,so I pretty much ignore the whole rat's a**hole that politics is these days.Would say that a truly intelligent dialouge between the OWS and TP might show a lot more things in common than either would admit.But that idea usually gets shouted down by both sides.
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    Dusty if the tea party folks had even 5% in common with the occupiers i'd withdraw all support for the tea party ..
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    Jack,half the Occupy folks and Tea folks I know are in my age group(late 50s),gun owners,working stiffs,non-union,homeowners,and can qoute the Constitution and Bill of rights or carry a copy in their pocket like I do.Not looking to get something for nothing,just want some honesty.The folks that get the news in both OWS and TP always seem to be the nutters,fringies,and dirtbags.
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    DD, just who do you think these corporations are ? Aliens ? FTM, what do you think a "corporation" is ?

    Its long been the standard meme of socialists, "corporations are evil exploiters of the workers ", without ever once defining just who "corporations" are in a capital economy ! >MW
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    maybe theres a difference i'm seeing here tea party stabnd for global socialism ?

    gay rights?

    open borders?
    welfare for all who ask ?

    i think not , maybe you gotta start asking the occupiers what they want like i did

    i did so every morning for a hour or so after a 2 hour train ride each way to do so

    i video's em i asked em and saw a few real folks , but the vast majority are no hoper dopers air headed useful idiots and similar
  14. Bobitis

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    I'm raising the BS flag here.

    The fed owns the MSM, and the OWS movement is merely a distraction from what's realy at stake.

    The Tea Party marched on the white house a couple years ago, two million strong. Obie flew away in Marine One so he could ignore the masses. That crowd got two days coverage before it was squelched by those in charge.

    On the other hand, OWS gets daily coverage, week after week, for something they are clueless about.

    Why you suppose that is? Divert the attention from what's realy happening.

    Headline the worthless, and ignore the reality.

    Well orchestrated by the government, and brought to you by the media.

    There's NO way you can equate OWS leaches to Tea Party members. I find that an insult beyond compare.:mad:
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    No where in my statement did I use the term 'Party". I used liberal and socialist. I also understand that there are liberals and socialists in both major parties (Dems and Rep) in US politics.
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    Love ya Jack!

    I can speak my mind, but you back it up.;)

    Cheers mate.
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    no worries , i did find a few real folks like i stated, but i note there where fewer and fewer as the "event" wore on , the real folks realised this occupy was being run by people they despise , who wont work who demand welfare , if they cant get a job that pays $100K PA tomorrow

    when i joined the army my first pay check was $117 for 2 weeks

    when i made corporal i was getting $298 for 2 weeks

    my last pay was $1500 ( 2 weeks and unclaimed allowances)

    i had to work my way up ... everyone does

    but these twits , think because they have a arts degree they should be able to get a job that pays $2000 a week or its not worth the effort

    where can you earn $2000 a week diagnosing artwork?
    one clowns biggest complaint was he did his theisis on graffitti and did not get a pass as graffitti is not a recognised artform so now they are upset at society and knows a socialist world would love his expertise in graffitti

    i googled dissident graffitti in the soviet union and showed hiom how socialists treated graffitti and free speech

    i was told it was all lies , stalin loved graffitti , they never executed anyone in the soviet union , not one person!!

    Cambodia was invaded by capitalist forces ( me included apparently ) and disrupted the peace loving socialist group there ( the Khmer Rouge) and it was not the socialist who made the killing fields but me and my team who killed all the peace loving socialists and dumped their poor bodies and made the killing fields ..

    this is the crap they pump out and these usefull idiots beleive it

    for the record 19,941 people where sent to the gulags for graffitti ( non political)

    political graffitti was treason and you where shot for that

    the soviets own records showed they executed a average of 51,000 people PA for the first 20 years and then it dropped to about 11,000 PA until the end of the Soviet union
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  20. jstgsn

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    O dusty dusty dusty, can't help but think you are a little bit of the problem. Those who stand in the middle and see everything as grey never really see anything clearly. There is a right and wrong, a black and white, and to ignore that is to ignore reality. What do they say, if you don't stand for something, then you don't stand for anything. Standing there saying "well I see your point, and I see yours too." doesn't work. The socialist/communist evil empire that has been destroying our country for 50 years plus depends on those who will not stand up against them. Its how we went from prayer in schools to moments of silence. From children competing against each other to nobody looses. From a pledge to the flag of our country to ignorance of our constitution. From praising our troops to spitting on them when they come home. From being able to defend our borders to arresting our Border Patrol Agents and granting immunity to drug smugglers. Every little inch we give provides a firm step hold against our constitution. If you dont' believe that, please, move to England, or anywhere in Europe. Even Austrailia (ask Jack). If you don't see the difference between the tea party and the occupy movements then you are not really looking. Perhaps you have given up on it all some time ago. If so, I'm sorry, we need all the help we can get. When I say we, I mean those who believe our country rose from turmoil because of the efforts and wisdom of great men who lived years ago. Men who wrote a constitution and declaration of independence that provided oppurtunity for those who came to this great land and worked and strived to live free lives. Those who believed in capitalism and made it work. Perhaps it worked too well, for this generation, and parts of the last, have been spoiled and expects everything on a golden platter.
    The tea party is sickened by the abuse of power by government officials. The occupy movement is sickened by the lack of free stuff from those who have have succeeded.
    I would prefer the government step aside and allow my grandchildren to succeed.
    holy cow, i apologize for the rant.
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