Discussion in 'The 1911 Forum' started by s+w1911, Jan 5, 2010.
I appreciate the info and opinions. Hopefully we will never have to use them.
what brand of bullets do you buy? i thought hollowpoints were usually 185 grain. fmj tend to be 230. at least around here from what i see on the shelves.
you can get a 230 gr hollow point lots of different makers produce that size. federal and corbon comes to mind.
Yes I use Federal 230 grain hydro-shok +p jhp's
230 grain is (I believe) the absolute most common grain for .45acp
As stated above, almost any manufacturer makes 230 grain jhp.
The reason you may only see 185's is that the 230's are bought up!
Locally, I have seen 230 JHP's in:
I shoot 230 gr truncated cone (lead flat point) in both my Star PD and full size Milspec. The velocitiy is a little slower with the PD but of not much significance to the guy on the receiving end. I don't worry about whether there is enough velocity to open up a lollow point. Deer are killed regularly with a 44 spl 250 gr SWC bullet at 900 fps. With solid projectiles it is meplat size and striking velocity along with penetration that determines whether you eat venison or peanut butter. The lead flat nosed 230 gr 45 ACP meplat is very similar to the 44 special SWC meplat used for hunting. I know that SD and handgun hunting are different puruits. But if a deer can be taken at 25-75yds with one or two shots, don't you think a human can be stopped with a mag full of 45 fmjFP at point blank range to 7 yds?
I load my own ammo. I use Hornady XTP HP bullets in both my 200 and 230 grain cartridges.
I realize a mag full of .45 anything is going to work, but I hope each shot does the job, because even the best trained mis on occasion.
As someone extremely well trained, I can tell you when the time comes, your performance WILL be far less than you think.
Tunnel vision, adrenaline and fear will cut your marksmanship atleast in half.
Dave, in my honest opinion, you have made a good choice. With proper break in, good mags ( Wilson Combat ) and recommended recoil spring changes,the weapon will be completely reliable. I wouldn't worry about ballistics from the 3" barrel. Most deadly encounters, as you well know,are at close ranges.
They are starting out at .451 so whether they expand or not isn't a big deal. The 45 acp has been doing the job for 100 years mostly all with ball ammo.
I would be completely comfortable carrying a 3" 1911 for personal defense.
Put semi-wadcutters in it. Out of all the ammo I have ever shot, these semi-wadcutters I bought at a gun show were the most accurate ever. I wonder what the impact would be like if you shot something with SWC's compared to FMJ or JHP. The ones I have are unjacketed SWC. They dirty up your gun in a hurry but they are dead on in accuracy.
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